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		By: Gordon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/08/19/ada-commish-candidate-tells-cities-to-pay-up/#comment-20036</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting that Clarkenstine accuses shackleford of ranting, using quite a rant to do so.
I agree that this should not be a forum to attack other bloggers (although any can feel free to attack me for saying that, OK?), but if Clarkenstine is going to get all offended every time someone disagrees with him or gives him a little static -- Whew, if you can&#039;t take that little bit of heat, this is going to get interesting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that Clarkenstine accuses shackleford of ranting, using quite a rant to do so.<br />
I agree that this should not be a forum to attack other bloggers (although any can feel free to attack me for saying that, OK?), but if Clarkenstine is going to get all offended every time someone disagrees with him or gives him a little static &#8212; Whew, if you can&#8217;t take that little bit of heat, this is going to get interesting.</p>
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		By: schackleford		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/08/19/ada-commish-candidate-tells-cities-to-pay-up/#comment-20020</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[schackleford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And I will remove myself from any further comments.  I will just be an observer from here on out.  So no need to waste any more time on me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I will remove myself from any further comments.  I will just be an observer from here on out.  So no need to waste any more time on me.</p>
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		By: schackleford		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/08/19/ada-commish-candidate-tells-cities-to-pay-up/#comment-20019</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[schackleford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Schackleford appologizes as a new person to posting something, ignorance not an excuse, so appologies to all.  Lesson learned.  The cost break down was just in response to the article to point out where funds go from the monies collected on citations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schackleford appologizes as a new person to posting something, ignorance not an excuse, so appologies to all.  Lesson learned.  The cost break down was just in response to the article to point out where funds go from the monies collected on citations.</p>
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		By: clarkenstein		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/08/19/ada-commish-candidate-tells-cities-to-pay-up/#comment-20015</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clarkenstein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 19:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shackleford states above: nothing meant by it just information. &#062;&#062;&#062; Turning to the definition of information &#062; The English word was apparently derived from the Latin accusative form (informationem) of the nominative (informatio): this noun is in its turn derived from the verb &quot;informare&quot; (to inform) in the sense of &quot;to give form to the mind&quot;, &quot;to discipline&quot;, &quot;instruct&quot;, &quot;teach&quot;: &quot;Men so wise should go and inform their kings.&quot; (1330) Inform itself comes (via French) from the Latin verb informare, to give form to, to form an idea of.  Ja,,, nothing but &quot;information&quot;.

Clarkenstein earlier commented as regard excessive costs paid to civil servants with respect to a pay, benefits and layoffs facing corporate america.  

Shackleford, however, instead of evaluating overhead in bureaucracies, makes a personal rant against a blogger, as if it were OK for the high costs to Taxpayers in funding Bureaucracies.  

Nothing in Clarkenstein&#039;s blog suggests an interest in &quot;marching&quot; to city hall (is shackleford a drill instructor)?  Nor does Clarkenstein make any suggestion that minimum wage is a Norm, or state that &quot;sounds like you will work for minimum wage and pay for your own insurance&quot;...  Does shackleford merely misquote to rant, or rant to misquote?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shackleford states above: nothing meant by it just information. &gt;&gt;&gt; Turning to the definition of information &gt; The English word was apparently derived from the Latin accusative form (informationem) of the nominative (informatio): this noun is in its turn derived from the verb &#8220;informare&#8221; (to inform) in the sense of &#8220;to give form to the mind&#8221;, &#8220;to discipline&#8221;, &#8220;instruct&#8221;, &#8220;teach&#8221;: &#8220;Men so wise should go and inform their kings.&#8221; (1330) Inform itself comes (via French) from the Latin verb informare, to give form to, to form an idea of.  Ja,,, nothing but &#8220;information&#8221;.</p>
<p>Clarkenstein earlier commented as regard excessive costs paid to civil servants with respect to a pay, benefits and layoffs facing corporate america.  </p>
<p>Shackleford, however, instead of evaluating overhead in bureaucracies, makes a personal rant against a blogger, as if it were OK for the high costs to Taxpayers in funding Bureaucracies.  </p>
<p>Nothing in Clarkenstein&#8217;s blog suggests an interest in &#8220;marching&#8221; to city hall (is shackleford a drill instructor)?  Nor does Clarkenstein make any suggestion that minimum wage is a Norm, or state that &#8220;sounds like you will work for minimum wage and pay for your own insurance&#8221;&#8230;  Does shackleford merely misquote to rant, or rant to misquote?</p>
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		By: clarkenstein		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/08/19/ada-commish-candidate-tells-cities-to-pay-up/#comment-20014</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clarkenstein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shakleford should refrain from putting in a name without first hand knowledge who the person is.  Frazier should NOT allow this to devolve to personal innuendo againt another by using a name other than in the BLOG.  Identify youself Shackleford, &#038; refrain from guessing who BLOGS by a pseudonym.  Frazier - remove shackleford&#039;s reference to naming a person other than pseudonym in Comment #7]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shakleford should refrain from putting in a name without first hand knowledge who the person is.  Frazier should NOT allow this to devolve to personal innuendo againt another by using a name other than in the BLOG.  Identify youself Shackleford, &amp; refrain from guessing who BLOGS by a pseudonym.  Frazier &#8211; remove shackleford&#8217;s reference to naming a person other than pseudonym in Comment #7</p>
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		By: shackleford		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/08/19/ada-commish-candidate-tells-cities-to-pay-up/#comment-20008</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shackleford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So here is a little break down for you.  Lets take a look at a speeding ticket which will cost you $85.00:
Fixed penalty-$33.50
Court costs-$26.50
County Justice fund-$5.00
Peace Officer Training fund-$10.00
Istars technology fund-$10.00
I believe the city gets 90% of the fixed penalty according to 
ISC 19-4705.
Nothing meant by it, just information.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So here is a little break down for you.  Lets take a look at a speeding ticket which will cost you $85.00:<br />
Fixed penalty-$33.50<br />
Court costs-$26.50<br />
County Justice fund-$5.00<br />
Peace Officer Training fund-$10.00<br />
Istars technology fund-$10.00<br />
I believe the city gets 90% of the fixed penalty according to<br />
ISC 19-4705.<br />
Nothing meant by it, just information.</p>
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		By: shackleford		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/08/19/ada-commish-candidate-tells-cities-to-pay-up/#comment-20007</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shackleford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Clark should just march down to city hall, tell them what job you want to do.  It sounds like you will work for minimum wage and pay for your own insurance.  I know they will hire you if you make them an offer like that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Clark should just march down to city hall, tell them what job you want to do.  It sounds like you will work for minimum wage and pay for your own insurance.  I know they will hire you if you make them an offer like that.</p>
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		By: clarkenstein		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/08/19/ada-commish-candidate-tells-cities-to-pay-up/#comment-19990</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clarkenstein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paying up ... is this what it is all about these days - as if money flowed down the Boise River ???  Let&#039;s see engineers, biologists, liberal arts majors, music majors, and sundry college graduates DO NOT enjoy the huge salaries provided from the Trough as for those Civil Servants eating lucious dollups of TAXPAYERS $$$ provided for the &quot;Justice&quot; SYSTEM employees.  Let&#039;s all be &quot;Civil Servants - so we can get rich off everyone else that pays taxes.  Bernie Madoff can be the Chief Bureaucrat in the Department of Ponzie Department.  A get rich quick scheme - better than working at Taco Bell, Nicht Wahr???  

How about dropping their salaries to a statistical norm (NOT Team Dave&#039;s norm) ?!?  This will help remind the Civil Servants they work for &quot;We the People&quot;.  Clearly, the layers of feeding trough bureaucracy workers are substantially OVERPAID.  Make Biofuel from this Fat...  

Lowering their salaries in these difficult times will send them a SERIOUS message that economic hardship is &quot;Equal Opportunity&quot; friendly.  This will help lower overhead NOW &#038; send a message to the fUTURE that Civil Servants, going forward, Shall NOT be overpaid by those, who in many cases, are barely surviving.  Corporate America has cut way back - time to lower salaries &#038; layoff &quot;civil servants&quot; - they should not be immune.  

Perhaps we should make these bureaucrats pay 100% for health care - not unlike the &#039;common folk&#039; is being a Bureaucrat a 100% entitlement to gouge Taxpayers for gold plated benefits that few outside the Public Sector enjoy??? Common folk see increasing health care and retirement costs (if either are available).  Why should WE THE PEOPLE create an Aristocracy fed by a high tax burden to accommodate these gold digging Bureaucrats???  Few if any apparently have any regard for &quot;little people&quot; beyond providing tax revenue to fuel their BLING.  

BISTERFELDT ... hasn&#039;t HE been on the Public Trough long ENOUGH ???  Liberté, égalité, fraternité !!!  Where is Dr. Guillotine when we need him ???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paying up &#8230; is this what it is all about these days &#8211; as if money flowed down the Boise River ???  Let&#8217;s see engineers, biologists, liberal arts majors, music majors, and sundry college graduates DO NOT enjoy the huge salaries provided from the Trough as for those Civil Servants eating lucious dollups of TAXPAYERS $$$ provided for the &#8220;Justice&#8221; SYSTEM employees.  Let&#8217;s all be &#8220;Civil Servants &#8211; so we can get rich off everyone else that pays taxes.  Bernie Madoff can be the Chief Bureaucrat in the Department of Ponzie Department.  A get rich quick scheme &#8211; better than working at Taco Bell, Nicht Wahr???  </p>
<p>How about dropping their salaries to a statistical norm (NOT Team Dave&#8217;s norm) ?!?  This will help remind the Civil Servants they work for &#8220;We the People&#8221;.  Clearly, the layers of feeding trough bureaucracy workers are substantially OVERPAID.  Make Biofuel from this Fat&#8230;  </p>
<p>Lowering their salaries in these difficult times will send them a SERIOUS message that economic hardship is &#8220;Equal Opportunity&#8221; friendly.  This will help lower overhead NOW &amp; send a message to the fUTURE that Civil Servants, going forward, Shall NOT be overpaid by those, who in many cases, are barely surviving.  Corporate America has cut way back &#8211; time to lower salaries &amp; layoff &#8220;civil servants&#8221; &#8211; they should not be immune.  </p>
<p>Perhaps we should make these bureaucrats pay 100% for health care &#8211; not unlike the &#8216;common folk&#8217; is being a Bureaucrat a 100% entitlement to gouge Taxpayers for gold plated benefits that few outside the Public Sector enjoy??? Common folk see increasing health care and retirement costs (if either are available).  Why should WE THE PEOPLE create an Aristocracy fed by a high tax burden to accommodate these gold digging Bureaucrats???  Few if any apparently have any regard for &#8220;little people&#8221; beyond providing tax revenue to fuel their BLING.  </p>
<p>BISTERFELDT &#8230; hasn&#8217;t HE been on the Public Trough long ENOUGH ???  Liberté, égalité, fraternité !!!  Where is Dr. Guillotine when we need him ???</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/08/19/ada-commish-candidate-tells-cities-to-pay-up/#comment-19988</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very sensible, Larry.  It&#039;ll be interesting to see where Councilman Bisterfelt wannabe Comissioner Bisterfelt comes down on this issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very sensible, Larry.  It&#8217;ll be interesting to see where Councilman Bisterfelt wannabe Comissioner Bisterfelt comes down on this issue.</p>
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		By: erico49		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[erico49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[go larry!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go larry!</p>
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