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		By: just a thought		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/09/05/wilderness-homes-seldom-pay-their-share-for-fire-protection/#comment-20200</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[just a thought]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert.....poeple like you will never get past being bitter about others who are successful.  First of all, I am the guy at the top...top of me, myself and I.  I work for myself and have no employees to screw over as you would put it.  Second, no... I did  not get a bail out!  Third, it&#039;s call working 70+ hours a week for years building &quot;my&quot; business to the point where I do make....and have a good deal of money.  Why?  Because &quot;I&quot; did something about it rather sit around and &quot;expect&quot; everyone to do something for me.  You are the classic socialist!              Peace out!

EDITOR NOTE-- You guys are way off topic on fire protection and beginning to not &quot;play nice.&quot;   THREAD CLOSED!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert&#8230;..poeple like you will never get past being bitter about others who are successful.  First of all, I am the guy at the top&#8230;top of me, myself and I.  I work for myself and have no employees to screw over as you would put it.  Second, no&#8230; I did  not get a bail out!  Third, it&#8217;s call working 70+ hours a week for years building &#8220;my&#8221; business to the point where I do make&#8230;.and have a good deal of money.  Why?  Because &#8220;I&#8221; did something about it rather sit around and &#8220;expect&#8221; everyone to do something for me.  You are the classic socialist!              Peace out!</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211; You guys are way off topic on fire protection and beginning to not &#8220;play nice.&#8221;   THREAD CLOSED!</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a thought...Hummm you must be the guy at the top that just took the big bonus while cutting health care and cutting wages 20%. Did you just get a bail out to?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought&#8230;Hummm you must be the guy at the top that just took the big bonus while cutting health care and cutting wages 20%. Did you just get a bail out to?</p>
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		By: Just a Thought		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/09/05/wilderness-homes-seldom-pay-their-share-for-fire-protection/#comment-20191</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just a Thought]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gee Robert....you sound like one of those people who are evious of others who, unlike you, actually get up of their lazy @3!!# and work hard to earn the money they have....so why the heck shouldn&#039;t they deserve it!  Your the socialist type who thinks they are entitled, stop it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Robert&#8230;.you sound like one of those people who are evious of others who, unlike you, actually get up of their lazy @3!!# and work hard to earn the money they have&#8230;.so why the heck shouldn&#8217;t they deserve it!  Your the socialist type who thinks they are entitled, stop it!</p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod in SE Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 02:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, if some education funding comes from state income tax, then I can only conclude that income tax payers in Boise are subsidizing education in Filer, for instance.  Think about that one for a while.

Teachers earn:  &quot;more than the median family income&quot; in some areas because those teachers are the most educated people there, and likely doing the most important work.  Nothing wrong with that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if some education funding comes from state income tax, then I can only conclude that income tax payers in Boise are subsidizing education in Filer, for instance.  Think about that one for a while.</p>
<p>Teachers earn:  &#8220;more than the median family income&#8221; in some areas because those teachers are the most educated people there, and likely doing the most important work.  Nothing wrong with that.</p>
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		By: sam the sham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sam the sham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not Boise - but....
Just a note about the fire in Frazier Creek area of Garden Valley. The fire fighters of Crouch took care of possible house fires allowing the hot shots to do their jobs in taking care of the forest fire a few weeks ago.
(not that Frazier Creek homes are in  Boise, but it&#039;s nice to see the two entities working together...as well as neighbors helping in any way.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not Boise &#8211; but&#8230;.<br />
Just a note about the fire in Frazier Creek area of Garden Valley. The fire fighters of Crouch took care of possible house fires allowing the hot shots to do their jobs in taking care of the forest fire a few weeks ago.<br />
(not that Frazier Creek homes are in  Boise, but it&#8217;s nice to see the two entities working together&#8230;as well as neighbors helping in any way.)</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Capitalism:
The rich get richer and the poor gets whats left over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalism:<br />
The rich get richer and the poor gets whats left over.</p>
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		By: JIMV		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JIMV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Jim, your comment and your attitude assume that some of our tax dollars spent on education are wasted. Are teacher salaries wasted money?&quot;

About 80% of all educations dollars goes to pay and benefits for employees. That leaves 20% for buildings, fuel, buses, books, supplies, electricity, etc, etc...The &#039;average&#039; teacher in a host of regions makes far more than the median family income of the folk in their communities. The money is paid without any regard to competence per union contract.

As to taxes, yes the income tax counts as the state income tax is based on the federal one with all exemptions counted and hundred of millions in education spending comes from the state in addition to property taxes. Ask the legislature. In addition, millions more comes from the feds which also get money from the income tax which does allow child deductions, not to mention college deductions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jim, your comment and your attitude assume that some of our tax dollars spent on education are wasted. Are teacher salaries wasted money?&#8221;</p>
<p>About 80% of all educations dollars goes to pay and benefits for employees. That leaves 20% for buildings, fuel, buses, books, supplies, electricity, etc, etc&#8230;The &#8216;average&#8217; teacher in a host of regions makes far more than the median family income of the folk in their communities. The money is paid without any regard to competence per union contract.</p>
<p>As to taxes, yes the income tax counts as the state income tax is based on the federal one with all exemptions counted and hundred of millions in education spending comes from the state in addition to property taxes. Ask the legislature. In addition, millions more comes from the feds which also get money from the income tax which does allow child deductions, not to mention college deductions.</p>
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		By: gr8 t8r		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gr8 t8r]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rod, schools are not entirely paid by property taxes.  
That reminds me of a BPD who told an arrested perp that since the arrestee was renting and didn&#039;t pay property taxes the perp was not paying his salary. WrOng!  Unfortunately our public schools don&#039;t reveal enough in local govt.


in 2005 65% fo school funds from state funds (lets assume its similar in current year).
http://www.thecommoninterest.org/docs/k12/legislative_budget_book_public_schools.pdf

State income taxes are based on federal income tax laws and the more kids you have, the less you pay in taxes. 
 
None the less, we all benefit from a good public education. And that&#039;s what we have in Idaho. 

We also all benefit from not having 70 year old ladies begging on the corner.  
If I die before age67 I&#039;ll NEVER get that benefit.  
That&#039;s how our &quot;capitalism&quot; works.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod, schools are not entirely paid by property taxes.<br />
That reminds me of a BPD who told an arrested perp that since the arrestee was renting and didn&#8217;t pay property taxes the perp was not paying his salary. WrOng!  Unfortunately our public schools don&#8217;t reveal enough in local govt.</p>
<p>in 2005 65% fo school funds from state funds (lets assume its similar in current year).<br />
<a href="http://www.thecommoninterest.org/docs/k12/legislative_budget_book_public_schools.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.thecommoninterest.org/docs/k12/legislative_budget_book_public_schools.pdf</a></p>
<p>State income taxes are based on federal income tax laws and the more kids you have, the less you pay in taxes. </p>
<p>None the less, we all benefit from a good public education. And that&#8217;s what we have in Idaho. </p>
<p>We also all benefit from not having 70 year old ladies begging on the corner.<br />
If I die before age67 I&#8217;ll NEVER get that benefit.<br />
That&#8217;s how our &#8220;capitalism&#8221; works.</p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod in SE Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sisyphus, I have heard the tea partiers (or tea baggers) referred to as the &quot;something for nothing crowd&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sisyphus, I have heard the tea partiers (or tea baggers) referred to as the &#8220;something for nothing crowd&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod in SE Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim, your comment and your attitude assume that some of our tax dollars spent on education are wasted.  Are teacher salaries wasted money?  Of course not, but you would want them to live in caves just because they work for da gubment.  

I&#039;d be interested to find out how you know that folks with kids pay less taxes than those who don&#039;t have kids.  (And if you are thinking of the personal exemption on the federal form 1040, that doesn&#039;t count - schools are paid for by property taxes, a whole different kettle of fish.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, your comment and your attitude assume that some of our tax dollars spent on education are wasted.  Are teacher salaries wasted money?  Of course not, but you would want them to live in caves just because they work for da gubment.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to find out how you know that folks with kids pay less taxes than those who don&#8217;t have kids.  (And if you are thinking of the personal exemption on the federal form 1040, that doesn&#8217;t count &#8211; schools are paid for by property taxes, a whole different kettle of fish.)</p>
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