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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/09/22/guardian-guest-on-channel-4-dialogue-show/#comment-20334</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 02:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bristol who??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bristol who??</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/09/22/guardian-guest-on-channel-4-dialogue-show/#comment-20327</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hopefully Spongebob and other citizen/voters got a chance to watch a rerun.  (I watched a little of the live broadcast; watched the entirety Sunday afternoon.)  Of course, the reality is, despite the &quot;Dialogue,&quot; and the $60,000 &quot;informational campaign,&quot; etc., the majority of eligible voters won&#039;t vote.  And the majority of those who &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; vote will enter the booth uninformed.  (Too busy watching the Broncos, or Bristol on &quot;Dancing with the Stars,&quot; or the new-and-improved &quot;American Idol.&quot;)  I hope they take the time to read Dave&#039;s explanation as to why these amendments are not a good idea.

Regarding the &quot;Dialogue&quot; program...

Marcia Franklin is a master; she truly comes across as unbiased, and asks fantastic questions to get at the jist of the matter.

Both participants were well-prepared and eloquent, but Mr. Stegner gave me the distinct impression I get from far too many &quot;public servants.&quot;  He pats us on the head and tells us to go away quietly, because it&#039;s too complicated for us to understand, and we can trust him to do the thinkin&#039; for us.  (Cut from the same cloth as Shealy.)

One of the &quot;case examples&quot; was a public hospital buying a used, bargain-priced imaging machine.  And if they can&#039;t act quickly and quietly, they might miss out on an opportunity to save the taxpayers some money.

I&#039;m not buying it.

Currently if they need an imaging machine, they ask 2/3 of the taxpayers to approve the purchase.  THEN they start shopping, or perhaps start watching for a bargain in a used machine.  (Imagine how impressed the taxpayers would be, if they approved $1 million and their awesome hospital administrators ended up getting one for $500K!)

Under the amended rules, apparently if they happened across a bargain-priced imaging machine, or the semi-annual wheelchair sale, or whatever, they could cut the check?  And then issue bonds or whatever to cover it, without taxpayer approval?  I hope I&#039;m not the only one who prefers the current methodology.

My hat is off to Mr. Frazier.  If it weren&#039;t for him, I&#039;m confident I would&#039;ve entered that voting booth on November 2, never having given these amendments much thought.

(Sorry to wax verbose...)

EDITOR NOTE--Earlier commenter cites example of Meridian Schools purchase of Jabil plant.  Schools wrote &quot;letter of intent&quot; to purchase subject to voter approval.  They played by the rules and now have the facility and promise of voters to pay.  Clean and honest deal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully Spongebob and other citizen/voters got a chance to watch a rerun.  (I watched a little of the live broadcast; watched the entirety Sunday afternoon.)  Of course, the reality is, despite the &#8220;Dialogue,&#8221; and the $60,000 &#8220;informational campaign,&#8221; etc., the majority of eligible voters won&#8217;t vote.  And the majority of those who <i>do</i> vote will enter the booth uninformed.  (Too busy watching the Broncos, or Bristol on &#8220;Dancing with the Stars,&#8221; or the new-and-improved &#8220;American Idol.&#8221;)  I hope they take the time to read Dave&#8217;s explanation as to why these amendments are not a good idea.</p>
<p>Regarding the &#8220;Dialogue&#8221; program&#8230;</p>
<p>Marcia Franklin is a master; she truly comes across as unbiased, and asks fantastic questions to get at the jist of the matter.</p>
<p>Both participants were well-prepared and eloquent, but Mr. Stegner gave me the distinct impression I get from far too many &#8220;public servants.&#8221;  He pats us on the head and tells us to go away quietly, because it&#8217;s too complicated for us to understand, and we can trust him to do the thinkin&#8217; for us.  (Cut from the same cloth as Shealy.)</p>
<p>One of the &#8220;case examples&#8221; was a public hospital buying a used, bargain-priced imaging machine.  And if they can&#8217;t act quickly and quietly, they might miss out on an opportunity to save the taxpayers some money.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not buying it.</p>
<p>Currently if they need an imaging machine, they ask 2/3 of the taxpayers to approve the purchase.  THEN they start shopping, or perhaps start watching for a bargain in a used machine.  (Imagine how impressed the taxpayers would be, if they approved $1 million and their awesome hospital administrators ended up getting one for $500K!)</p>
<p>Under the amended rules, apparently if they happened across a bargain-priced imaging machine, or the semi-annual wheelchair sale, or whatever, they could cut the check?  And then issue bonds or whatever to cover it, without taxpayer approval?  I hope I&#8217;m not the only one who prefers the current methodology.</p>
<p>My hat is off to Mr. Frazier.  If it weren&#8217;t for him, I&#8217;m confident I would&#8217;ve entered that voting booth on November 2, never having given these amendments much thought.</p>
<p>(Sorry to wax verbose&#8230;)</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Earlier commenter cites example of Meridian Schools purchase of Jabil plant.  Schools wrote &#8220;letter of intent&#8221; to purchase subject to voter approval.  They played by the rules and now have the facility and promise of voters to pay.  Clean and honest deal.</p>
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		By: Spongebob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spongebob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry Game Day is here between that and the boys on the blue, my weekly allowance of TV time has been used up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Game Day is here between that and the boys on the blue, my weekly allowance of TV time has been used up.</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/09/22/guardian-guest-on-channel-4-dialogue-show/#comment-20296</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Dave.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Dave.</p>
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		By: Confused		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Confused]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought one of them had to do with U of I, the state&#039;s &quot;land grant&quot; university, being allowed to charge &quot;tuition&quot; versus &quot;fees.&quot;  I thought there were three:  airport, hospitals and U of I.  Can you please clarify.  I did not see the city utility one on my ballot and I live in the city of Boise.  Thanks.

EDITOR NOTE-- There are actually 4.  You describe the U of I correctly and it is mostly without opposition and a technical correction.  The &quot;power cities&quot; amendment is for places like Idaho Falls and Burley that own utilities and generate electricity.  They want to enter into agreements--17 years in the case of I.F.--the obligate citizens without their permission.  Not as big an issue as airports and hospitals, but still chips away the existing right of citizens to vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought one of them had to do with U of I, the state&#8217;s &#8220;land grant&#8221; university, being allowed to charge &#8220;tuition&#8221; versus &#8220;fees.&#8221;  I thought there were three:  airport, hospitals and U of I.  Can you please clarify.  I did not see the city utility one on my ballot and I live in the city of Boise.  Thanks.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211; There are actually 4.  You describe the U of I correctly and it is mostly without opposition and a technical correction.  The &#8220;power cities&#8221; amendment is for places like Idaho Falls and Burley that own utilities and generate electricity.  They want to enter into agreements&#8211;17 years in the case of I.F.&#8211;the obligate citizens without their permission.  Not as big an issue as airports and hospitals, but still chips away the existing right of citizens to vote.</p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/09/22/guardian-guest-on-channel-4-dialogue-show/#comment-20290</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod in SE Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good luck, Dave.

I set the DVR to record it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck, Dave.</p>
<p>I set the DVR to record it.</p>
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		By: Kappa TA		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/09/22/guardian-guest-on-channel-4-dialogue-show/#comment-20289</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kappa TA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Editor:

Thank you for helping educate voters on these important amendments.

KTA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editor:</p>
<p>Thank you for helping educate voters on these important amendments.</p>
<p>KTA</p>
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