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		By: Kappa TA		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/10/15/what-others-say-about-amendments/#comment-20395</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kappa TA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will be voting NO on these amendments that would eliminate voter oversight. I&#039;ve read all the opinions and arguments, and find that the only way to stop public officials from misuse of public dollars is to restrict their access without voter approval.  I am taking this stand for two reasons:

1. SUPPORT OF the FRAZIER LAW based on the constitution.

2. PUNITIVE measure as a voter against rampant corruption in public offices and agencies in general.

Stop the madness; VOTE NO!

KTA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will be voting NO on these amendments that would eliminate voter oversight. I&#8217;ve read all the opinions and arguments, and find that the only way to stop public officials from misuse of public dollars is to restrict their access without voter approval.  I am taking this stand for two reasons:</p>
<p>1. SUPPORT OF the FRAZIER LAW based on the constitution.</p>
<p>2. PUNITIVE measure as a voter against rampant corruption in public offices and agencies in general.</p>
<p>Stop the madness; VOTE NO!</p>
<p>KTA</p>
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		By: ya right		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/10/15/what-others-say-about-amendments/#comment-20376</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ya right]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[awkward,

   &quot;Ya Right, state law requires voter education on these issues, and that uses taxpayer dollars. I would prefer the people I elected make these decisions, and not waste my money. Your ad hominem attack doesn’t change this&quot;


    So what your saying is: I should just suck it up and take it because you or some shady lawyer types LIKE YOU decided to pass a law in the past supporting the criminal tricky behavior? Gimme a break will you! next you will proudly proclaim you authored the fine print at the bottom of all those shady &quot;ambulance chaser&quot; laywer ads on TV and try to convince me that THOSE are all for my own good too right?

   It is shady crap like this and the shady lawyers/politicians that have flushed this country down the toilet year after year, about time for some serious FLUSHING of lawyers/politicians!

   We need a new constitutional ammendment BANNING lawyers from political office! this putting the perverbial fox in charge of the hen house has got to stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awkward,</p>
<p>   &#8220;Ya Right, state law requires voter education on these issues, and that uses taxpayer dollars. I would prefer the people I elected make these decisions, and not waste my money. Your ad hominem attack doesn’t change this&#8221;</p>
<p>    So what your saying is: I should just suck it up and take it because you or some shady lawyer types LIKE YOU decided to pass a law in the past supporting the criminal tricky behavior? Gimme a break will you! next you will proudly proclaim you authored the fine print at the bottom of all those shady &#8220;ambulance chaser&#8221; laywer ads on TV and try to convince me that THOSE are all for my own good too right?</p>
<p>   It is shady crap like this and the shady lawyers/politicians that have flushed this country down the toilet year after year, about time for some serious FLUSHING of lawyers/politicians!</p>
<p>   We need a new constitutional ammendment BANNING lawyers from political office! this putting the perverbial fox in charge of the hen house has got to stop.</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/10/15/what-others-say-about-amendments/#comment-20361</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 04:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yea! What he said! Trusting politicians is probably what has gotten the &quot;9 other western states&quot; into their current situation. Sorry, but I still don&#039;t trust ANY politician (with the current exception of Minnick) as far as I could throw them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea! What he said! Trusting politicians is probably what has gotten the &#8220;9 other western states&#8221; into their current situation. Sorry, but I still don&#8217;t trust ANY politician (with the current exception of Minnick) as far as I could throw them.</p>
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		By: Chris Mitchell		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/10/15/what-others-say-about-amendments/#comment-20356</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops, my point is that 9 other western states trust their elected officials to make important fiscal decisions.  I&#039;d prefer Idaho be as different from California as possible.  As for HJR5facts.com, the website you say is designed to &quot;sway voters on these issues&quot;, I would challenge you to find one thing there that is not factual.

The system in place worked fine until 2006, I&#039;d like to go back to the way it was.

EDITOR NOTE--The &quot;system&quot; prior to 2006 was illegal, unconstitutional, and outside the law.  The simple truth is the bad guys got caught.  Chief Justice Eiseman told a legal seminar, &quot;Nothing changed with the decision.  The constitution has always mandated voter approval of debt.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops, my point is that 9 other western states trust their elected officials to make important fiscal decisions.  I&#8217;d prefer Idaho be as different from California as possible.  As for HJR5facts.com, the website you say is designed to &#8220;sway voters on these issues&#8221;, I would challenge you to find one thing there that is not factual.</p>
<p>The system in place worked fine until 2006, I&#8217;d like to go back to the way it was.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The &#8220;system&#8221; prior to 2006 was illegal, unconstitutional, and outside the law.  The simple truth is the bad guys got caught.  Chief Justice Eiseman told a legal seminar, &#8220;Nothing changed with the decision.  The constitution has always mandated voter approval of debt.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/10/15/what-others-say-about-amendments/#comment-20352</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Idaho is in a fairly decent finaincial position because of the strictures on debt.  I say if it is a good deal voters will approve it and if not the project will not fly.  

Take a good look at the states where the elected officials are allowed to go into debt.  Wall Street Journal has a very nice front page article on California now facing $19 billion is budget shortfalls due to no control by the people to approve debt.

I think I will be voting no on all three amendments.  I like the idea of &quot;pay as you go&quot; or get voter permission to go into debt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idaho is in a fairly decent finaincial position because of the strictures on debt.  I say if it is a good deal voters will approve it and if not the project will not fly.  </p>
<p>Take a good look at the states where the elected officials are allowed to go into debt.  Wall Street Journal has a very nice front page article on California now facing $19 billion is budget shortfalls due to no control by the people to approve debt.</p>
<p>I think I will be voting no on all three amendments.  I like the idea of &#8220;pay as you go&#8221; or get voter permission to go into debt.</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/10/15/what-others-say-about-amendments/#comment-20351</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awkward, you don&#039;t really believe that it is mandated by state law that Boise spend $60,000.00 on a website to sway voters on these issues,do you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awkward, you don&#8217;t really believe that it is mandated by state law that Boise spend $60,000.00 on a website to sway voters on these issues,do you?</p>
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		By: Awkward		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/10/15/what-others-say-about-amendments/#comment-20347</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Awkward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ya Right, state law requires voter education on these issues, and that uses taxpayer dollars. I would prefer the people I elected make these decisions, and not waste my money. Your ad hominem attack doesn&#039;t change this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya Right, state law requires voter education on these issues, and that uses taxpayer dollars. I would prefer the people I elected make these decisions, and not waste my money. Your ad hominem attack doesn&#8217;t change this.</p>
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		By: ya right		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/10/15/what-others-say-about-amendments/#comment-20343</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ya right]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!! is it NOVEMBER YET!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!! is it NOVEMBER YET!!!</p>
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		By: ya right		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/10/15/what-others-say-about-amendments/#comment-20342</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ya right]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seriously Awkward,



&quot;&quot;(even consolidated elections will require large voter education campaigns)&quot;&quot;


     Do you even pay attention to the comments you make? Can you honestly believe it is OK to spend MY tax money on these &quot;voter education campaigns&quot; to try to &quot;educate&quot; me to vote in support of YOUR pet project? HOLY FREAKIN COW MANURE!!!

    People like you (obviously a shady lawyer/politician type) are what is wrong with this country right now. You find it perfectly ok to spend other people&#039;s money to get what YOU decide is best for the rest of us.... when more often than not the truth is someone&#039;s pocket is getting well lined and their retirement income getting better and better at the tax payer&#039;s expense. GET A REAL JOB!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously Awkward,</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;(even consolidated elections will require large voter education campaigns)&#8221;&#8221;</p>
<p>     Do you even pay attention to the comments you make? Can you honestly believe it is OK to spend MY tax money on these &#8220;voter education campaigns&#8221; to try to &#8220;educate&#8221; me to vote in support of YOUR pet project? HOLY FREAKIN COW MANURE!!!</p>
<p>    People like you (obviously a shady lawyer/politician type) are what is wrong with this country right now. You find it perfectly ok to spend other people&#8217;s money to get what YOU decide is best for the rest of us&#8230;. when more often than not the truth is someone&#8217;s pocket is getting well lined and their retirement income getting better and better at the tax payer&#8217;s expense. GET A REAL JOB!!!!!</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent argument presented in the Statesmen this morning. Kudos to the Guardian! Very concise, logical, and informative. Now if the $60,000.00 website (that&#039;s correct folks) would add it to the effort to get these passed, we could actually believe that the money Boise spent to &quot;educate the public&quot; was &quot;fair and balanced&quot;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent argument presented in the Statesmen this morning. Kudos to the Guardian! Very concise, logical, and informative. Now if the $60,000.00 website (that&#8217;s correct folks) would add it to the effort to get these passed, we could actually believe that the money Boise spent to &#8220;educate the public&#8221; was &#8220;fair and balanced&#8221;!</p>
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