Comments on: Ada Probation Agency Comes Under Scrutiny

By: Laina

Laina — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:37:39 +0000

AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY IDAHO IS SO BROKE RIGHT NOW!! THE SYSTEM IS SO RIDICULOUSLY UNFAIR, UNJUST, DISCRIMINATORY, AND SCREWED THE HELL UP. ITS BECAUSE OF PROBATION OFFICERS WHO DON’T WORK THEIR JOB IN AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE OTHERS LIVES, BUT TO RUIN OTHERS LIVES. ITS LIKE THEY WAKE UP AND SAY “HMMM…LETS SEE WHAT I CAN PUT HIM IN JAIL FOR TODAY BECAUSE IM SO F#@%&* BORED”

By: Laina

Laina — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:23:33 +0000

Just for some information–a big reason they’re trying to steal client’s money is because they spend 60 bucks on these stupid spice tests that never come back positive anyways. it’s just a waste of money. since they began sending the tests in, they’ve raised cost of supervision, and seem to be giving more and more of them. it’s really frustrating to work your ass off and get nothing in return. the probation officers in moscow are just terrible. they don’t listen to you at all and you absolutely cannot go to them for help. i know this girl who just got her third spice test and hasn’t even failed one. she admitted to smoking spice once, didn’t even fail the test, did 2 days, and they are continuing to ua her all the time. sounds like a waste of money to me. and probationers wonder why c.o.s. went up. ridiculous. i dont know how some of them sleep at night. you work and work and work to do the right thing and it’s never good enough. it’s pretty discouraging. makes it even harder to stay sober. they send all the tests not done in the office to redwood toxicology, an advanced drug-testing lab, however, what’s the point of spending the money if the individual is doing well?

By: Fees

Fees — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:45:18 +0000

Probationer2, my 2nd request was to ACMPS and they were the ones who told me to subpoena them, even though they knew I was off probation.

They obviously know about all of this and are in obstructionist/protectionist mode.

Personally, I hope they hide and falsify their records. I can substantiate 75% of it on my own. The labs will do the rest. Any discrepancy between our records will prove concealment on their part.

By: Publica

Publica — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 04:20:15 +0000

Nick:

I don’t see any Ada case where you are on probation. If you are off probation you can still be a part of the class that Phil Gordon is suing on behalf of. Call his office.

Misdemeanor probation is limited to two years per charge and I haven’t seen anything consecutive unless a felony is being reduced to a misdemeanor.

If you are in violation of probation it is possible to “toll” the probation and thereby extend it at PV disposition, but most of the magistrates in Ada aren’t going to go out past the two years.

By: Nickolas Jennings

Nickolas Jennings — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:47:46 +0000

Been struggling with this for 2.5 years. Transferred to different PO’s with no real plan to help me finish probation. Mixed messages. I’ve paid my debt ten fold, and am tired of playing the game. Out of money now, any lawyers out there wanting to do pro-bono work I could use the help.

By: Publica

Publica — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 05:40:25 +0000

Probationer2 – It cannot be a PV to request the information. A violation of probation has to be a violation of the specific terms of your probation. (Which makes it problematic that probation threatens violations for things which are not a term of the probation, like being employed or a student…)

Yes, your PO SHOULD give you a copy. The reality is that the PO isn’t going to do anything that a probationer demands. Your attorney can cause stuff to happen, though. BUT, if you are doing well on probation, why not ask the PO for your UA results? If they don’t provide you that, post it on here.

Just be aware that probation doesn’t want people rocking the boat. If you are trying to get your UA results and probation learns about it, my guess is they will put a target on you. Don’t miss the UA line or a payment or anything after that.

I have represented tons of people on misdemeanor probation violations. Normal violations are:

– PO contact
– UAs
– Fines/costs/restitution
– Jail/SILD/SCS
– Classes
– New crimes
– Employment

I’m having to think hard to come up with any violation not on that list. And those are the basic things that the monthly check-in is about. Missed UAs? Paid fines? Finished class? Committed murder?

I have never seen a PV for not paying the monthly cost of supervision, although I have had a bunch of clients tell me that probation tells them to pay COS first, THEN court stuff. That’s backwards and it creates a violation of probation.

By: probationer2

probationer2 — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:02:35 +0000

FEEs: Thank you for the information. Have you tried to obtain the information from ACMPS? I am curious to know if they were able to provide you with the information.

By: probationer2

probationer2 — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:40:07 +0000

FEES: thank you for that information. I was going to go in there and request the information from them. saves me the hassel of having to deal with them. I am going to request my information this week and see what kind of bull they come up with!

By: Fees

Fees — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:13:29 +0000

I went into the lab to get a copy of my UAs and was told that they could not give them to me because they were the property of ACMPS. They wouldn’t even give me a printout of the days I was there, the money I paid, or anything. They said to call ACMPS. They told me I’d have to subpoena them if I wanted them.

Right now, I think ACMPS is on an obstructionist path in damage-control mode. The truth always comes out, though. And, if they falsify or perjure themselves over this issue it will only make their situation worse.

Subpoena Duces Tecum… A powerful tool 🙂

By: probationer2

probationer2 — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 06:59:28 +0000

Actually, I have a “CONTRACT” through Nancy, who Has a Contract with global drug testing. I shouldn’t have to ask them for a UA Log. I should be able to request one from my PO. as for the printing fee, I pay them enough as it is!- again, it goes back to making money, a sucking people dry!
I was not ordered by the Judge to do testings. I was ordered to report to my PO, pay my fines, do my classes. which are complete. I was also not ordered to do Group sessions when meeting my PO. I pay 50 a month I should be able to have a private meeting/ get records from them..