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		By: current probationee		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/01/nancy-cladis-responds-to-probation-concerns/#comment-29214</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[current probationee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 02:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am currently on probation and Kim Helmandolar was my PO and now I was informed that he is no longer seeing clietns but is working from home. How convenient for him and supposedly he is the Chief Probation officer and if you want to talk to him you are told that he is not availabe well come to find out he is onm payroll and makes more than others and does not have a caes of probationees to see. My complints I have been told that need to go to a Sandy who is clerical and I do not trust any of them anymore as I have gone through so many POs in that office. If Kim does not want to work than he should resign and period.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently on probation and Kim Helmandolar was my PO and now I was informed that he is no longer seeing clietns but is working from home. How convenient for him and supposedly he is the Chief Probation officer and if you want to talk to him you are told that he is not availabe well come to find out he is onm payroll and makes more than others and does not have a caes of probationees to see. My complints I have been told that need to go to a Sandy who is clerical and I do not trust any of them anymore as I have gone through so many POs in that office. If Kim does not want to work than he should resign and period.</p>
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		By: More pathetic acts		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/01/nancy-cladis-responds-to-probation-concerns/#comment-29194</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More pathetic acts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was made aware that the magistrate judges are scheduling a meeting in the next couple weeks to discuss a possible diversionary program for misdemeanor offenders. This concerns me on a couple levels. I am aware there are these programs for juvenile offenders but my understanding of the juvenile program is such as this: so they would not re-offend as adults. Now we need a program for the adults as well? What about misdemeanor probation, isn&#039;t that what that program is for? If you look at what just the juvenile &quot;Millennium Fund&quot; proposal from 2011 for Ada County, it is almost $85,000. 

 http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2009/interim/Mill.12.03.09/IdahoSupremeCourt/Application.pdf  Where is the money going to come from for the adults? We are all strapped at this time, we don&#039;t need to spend anymore for things that are already out there! Either the money will come from you and I, (the public) OR from the offenders. Well we already HAVE misdemeanor probation which the offenders pay for themselves why in the world would we need something else? These are ADULTS now, either the judge believes they need supervised or they do not, I believe they are equipped to make that choice.

The other thing that concerns me is that the person putting the &quot;proposal&quot; together for this diversionary program is none other than Nancy Cladis herself (Misdemeanor Probation Director). I was stunned when I discovered this.. Here is a woman who has apparently tried to hang on for dear life to misdemeanor probation, now wanting to still be in the thick of it. Is this still her way of making money off the backs of misdemeanor offenders or is she now trying to get our &quot;funds&quot; to support this venture? Or is this an attempt to get around the commissioners for not renewing her contract or trying to make sure the funds stay in her pocket rather then the sheriff&#039;s department? It is common knowledge around the courthouse that she has a VERY close confidant in a high ranking position in domestic violence court that gives her advice, is this where this is coming from?

Either way this whole scenario stinks to high heaven. I don&#039;t believe a diversionary program is necessary. It appears to me that if misdemeanor probation doesn&#039;t work why in the world would this? We already have Domestic Violence, Mental Health, Drug, and are trying out a form of DUI court, now we need another one to oversee all that? Doesn&#039;t make ANY sense and is a waste to the offender and possibly my dollars. Even if the magistrates were on board with such a proposal wouldn&#039;t it be wise to get bids for this rather then just take ones word for it?  Enough is enough, when is the motto of getting lucrative contracts from the state, local or county government going to end?

EDITOR NOTE--We checked at the highest levels of officialdom that would have any voice in this matter and ALL denied any meeting on the subject.  They have had and anticipate more meetings in the transition from the private ACMPS to the program that will end up with the sheriff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was made aware that the magistrate judges are scheduling a meeting in the next couple weeks to discuss a possible diversionary program for misdemeanor offenders. This concerns me on a couple levels. I am aware there are these programs for juvenile offenders but my understanding of the juvenile program is such as this: so they would not re-offend as adults. Now we need a program for the adults as well? What about misdemeanor probation, isn&#8217;t that what that program is for? If you look at what just the juvenile &#8220;Millennium Fund&#8221; proposal from 2011 for Ada County, it is almost $85,000. </p>
<p> <a href="http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2009/interim/Mill.12.03.09/IdahoSupremeCourt/Application.pdf " rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2009/interim/Mill.12.03.09/IdahoSupremeCourt/Application.pdf </a> Where is the money going to come from for the adults? We are all strapped at this time, we don&#8217;t need to spend anymore for things that are already out there! Either the money will come from you and I, (the public) OR from the offenders. Well we already HAVE misdemeanor probation which the offenders pay for themselves why in the world would we need something else? These are ADULTS now, either the judge believes they need supervised or they do not, I believe they are equipped to make that choice.</p>
<p>The other thing that concerns me is that the person putting the &#8220;proposal&#8221; together for this diversionary program is none other than Nancy Cladis herself (Misdemeanor Probation Director). I was stunned when I discovered this.. Here is a woman who has apparently tried to hang on for dear life to misdemeanor probation, now wanting to still be in the thick of it. Is this still her way of making money off the backs of misdemeanor offenders or is she now trying to get our &#8220;funds&#8221; to support this venture? Or is this an attempt to get around the commissioners for not renewing her contract or trying to make sure the funds stay in her pocket rather then the sheriff&#8217;s department? It is common knowledge around the courthouse that she has a VERY close confidant in a high ranking position in domestic violence court that gives her advice, is this where this is coming from?</p>
<p>Either way this whole scenario stinks to high heaven. I don&#8217;t believe a diversionary program is necessary. It appears to me that if misdemeanor probation doesn&#8217;t work why in the world would this? We already have Domestic Violence, Mental Health, Drug, and are trying out a form of DUI court, now we need another one to oversee all that? Doesn&#8217;t make ANY sense and is a waste to the offender and possibly my dollars. Even if the magistrates were on board with such a proposal wouldn&#8217;t it be wise to get bids for this rather then just take ones word for it?  Enough is enough, when is the motto of getting lucrative contracts from the state, local or county government going to end?</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;We checked at the highest levels of officialdom that would have any voice in this matter and ALL denied any meeting on the subject.  They have had and anticipate more meetings in the transition from the private ACMPS to the program that will end up with the sheriff.</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/01/nancy-cladis-responds-to-probation-concerns/#comment-28089</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I heard a rumor yesterday that probation is being put under the sherrif. 

Sharron would you care to comment?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a rumor yesterday that probation is being put under the sherrif. </p>
<p>Sharron would you care to comment?</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/01/nancy-cladis-responds-to-probation-concerns/#comment-27875</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe and Rick are not the same guy
How many names do you post under Tina? scared, tina, rukidding, and many others.

I will tell Nancy hi for you, I will see he in court when Susans review comes up. 

BTW the invite to talk about this in private still stands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe and Rick are not the same guy<br />
How many names do you post under Tina? scared, tina, rukidding, and many others.</p>
<p>I will tell Nancy hi for you, I will see he in court when Susans review comes up. </p>
<p>BTW the invite to talk about this in private still stands.</p>
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		By: Scared		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/01/nancy-cladis-responds-to-probation-concerns/#comment-27852</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scared]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HAHAHAHA!! I&#039;ve been out of the mix for awhile,Joe and rick are the same by the time lines and posts. Jeff and all the others that came here to vent and try to find some solitude and release and maybe some answers. Please don&#039;t give up, Keep your chin up and your head held high, you&#039;ll get thru this, keep positive and don&#039;t let the negative stuff cloud your way. God bless .....Ps r/j keep stirring and say hi to Nancy!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHAHA!! I&#8217;ve been out of the mix for awhile,Joe and rick are the same by the time lines and posts. Jeff and all the others that came here to vent and try to find some solitude and release and maybe some answers. Please don&#8217;t give up, Keep your chin up and your head held high, you&#8217;ll get thru this, keep positive and don&#8217;t let the negative stuff cloud your way. God bless &#8230;..Ps r/j keep stirring and say hi to Nancy!!!!</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/01/nancy-cladis-responds-to-probation-concerns/#comment-27816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m confused as to how I am taking her space but you might be correct I don’t know. I just wonder why she wants me off of here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m confused as to how I am taking her space but you might be correct I don’t know. I just wonder why she wants me off of here?</p>
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		By: joe		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/01/nancy-cladis-responds-to-probation-concerns/#comment-27810</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Exactly Rick and she wants you off this blog.  You are taking her space.  I don&#039;t think she will ever go away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Rick and she wants you off this blog.  You are taking her space.  I don&#8217;t think she will ever go away.</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/01/nancy-cladis-responds-to-probation-concerns/#comment-27798</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the typing and punctuation I would say Jeff isn&#039;t a Jeff....
 maybe Tina in yet another form.....
just saying since there is no Jeff Brown with any open cases in DV court.... publica isn&#039;t the only one who knows how too look things up in ISTARS]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the typing and punctuation I would say Jeff isn&#8217;t a Jeff&#8230;.<br />
 maybe Tina in yet another form&#8230;..<br />
just saying since there is no Jeff Brown with any open cases in DV court&#8230;. publica isn&#8217;t the only one who knows how too look things up in ISTARS</p>
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		By: Jeff		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/01/nancy-cladis-responds-to-probation-concerns/#comment-27796</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe,I am paying that much and alot more.You see,I have a family,jobs are tight,we&#039;re bearly getting by.I&#039;ve been forced to pass on five jobs now because of probation.These jobs were 3-6 hours away form my home so I would have to stay there and come home on the weekends.I was flat out told NO!Yet I better always have their money!In this economy eveyone has to bend.As far as sitting down and talking with anyone working at P&#038;P,not going to happen.From what I&#039;ve read, and what I&#039;ve witnessed,I may as well put my thoughts and feelings in the news paper.I don&#039;t trust anyone there.I know alot of people in law (officers,lawyers,Judges)in Calif. (that&#039;s not to sound like it makes me somebody, because I&#039;m not)Thay hear and read about the Id system and just smerk with disbelief.It&#039;s not even funny to them,it&#039;s sad because they know and believe in the system the way it&#039;s ment to run.This system has been shown to be corrupt,impotent,one sided and just plain sloppy in process for twenty years now and guess what?? no one has done squat to correct it.I believe in the Constitution. The people appointed to work and run Idaho should also.Myabe it would help if someone who knows how to read read it to them??? Have a Godly day]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,I am paying that much and alot more.You see,I have a family,jobs are tight,we&#8217;re bearly getting by.I&#8217;ve been forced to pass on five jobs now because of probation.These jobs were 3-6 hours away form my home so I would have to stay there and come home on the weekends.I was flat out told NO!Yet I better always have their money!In this economy eveyone has to bend.As far as sitting down and talking with anyone working at P&amp;P,not going to happen.From what I&#8217;ve read, and what I&#8217;ve witnessed,I may as well put my thoughts and feelings in the news paper.I don&#8217;t trust anyone there.I know alot of people in law (officers,lawyers,Judges)in Calif. (that&#8217;s not to sound like it makes me somebody, because I&#8217;m not)Thay hear and read about the Id system and just smerk with disbelief.It&#8217;s not even funny to them,it&#8217;s sad because they know and believe in the system the way it&#8217;s ment to run.This system has been shown to be corrupt,impotent,one sided and just plain sloppy in process for twenty years now and guess what?? no one has done squat to correct it.I believe in the Constitution. The people appointed to work and run Idaho should also.Myabe it would help if someone who knows how to read read it to them??? Have a Godly day</p>
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		By: joe		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/01/nancy-cladis-responds-to-probation-concerns/#comment-27795</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 06:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who told you the DV classes and testing are free?  Who is suppose to pay for that, the taxpayers?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who told you the DV classes and testing are free?  Who is suppose to pay for that, the taxpayers?</p>
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