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		By: PROBER		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/06/probation-agency-defendant-in-class-action-lawsuit/#comment-27323</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PROBER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ada county probation has only one goal in mind, to make as much money off violaters as possible.  Now the monthly fee has risen to $75.00 a fee which, along with court fines and uas is almost impossible for most to pay. I realize that we have all broken some law and must accept due punishment, however I beleive punishment should be aimed at correction and rehabilitation, not financial destruction.  Also I&#039;ve been informed that making a person use a specific testing lab may be illegal, and why does Globe appear to have a high turnover rate.  Lastly I keep hearing about the law suits, investgations etc.  When is someone really going to do something to correct this injust.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ada county probation has only one goal in mind, to make as much money off violaters as possible.  Now the monthly fee has risen to $75.00 a fee which, along with court fines and uas is almost impossible for most to pay. I realize that we have all broken some law and must accept due punishment, however I beleive punishment should be aimed at correction and rehabilitation, not financial destruction.  Also I&#8217;ve been informed that making a person use a specific testing lab may be illegal, and why does Globe appear to have a high turnover rate.  Lastly I keep hearing about the law suits, investgations etc.  When is someone really going to do something to correct this injust.</p>
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		By: ex probationer		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/06/probation-agency-defendant-in-class-action-lawsuit/#comment-25781</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ex probationer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 04:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I heard a rumor that the class action is about to be dismissed... anyone know if thats true? Publica do you know if the way probation&#039;s being run is really against the constitution?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a rumor that the class action is about to be dismissed&#8230; anyone know if thats true? Publica do you know if the way probation&#8217;s being run is really against the constitution?</p>
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		By: Pissed - current probationer		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/06/probation-agency-defendant-in-class-action-lawsuit/#comment-25531</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pissed - current probationer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 22:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cookie

After a search to see that Nancy was lying about having ties to Cladis Bail Bonds. The following was discovered. For all those saying Kathy didnt own it. 

Q: Does Nancy Cladis own or have ties to Cladis Bail Bonds?
 
A: By checking with the Idaho Department of Insurance, you will find that Nancy Cladis does not come up as a licensed person. However, when search for “Cladis bail Bonds”, the following information:
 
Agency Information
 Name: KATHY CLADIS BAIL BONDS LLC License Number: 380486
 Address: 500 W IDAHO ST STE 200
 Issued: 6/17/2011
 BOISE, ID 83702-5755 Expires: 7/1/2013
 
Phone: (208) 344-3234 License Status:
 License Type: Active
 Bail Agency
 
Line Description Line Code
 Bail Surety BSUR
 
To sort by category, click on the column header
 Producers City State License Number Appointment Date
 BLAKE, JOHN BOISE ID 35566 6/17/2011
 
Insurance Company City State License Number Appointment Date
 SENECA INSURANCE COMPANY, INC. NEW YORK NY 1229 6/17/2011
 
Michael
 
Fastrak Bail Bonds Inc.
 815 North Harbor Boulevard
 Fullerton, California 92832
 (714) 870-7730
 
Source(s):
 
http://www.doi.idaho.gov/default.aspx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cookie</p>
<p>After a search to see that Nancy was lying about having ties to Cladis Bail Bonds. The following was discovered. For all those saying Kathy didnt own it. </p>
<p>Q: Does Nancy Cladis own or have ties to Cladis Bail Bonds?</p>
<p>A: By checking with the Idaho Department of Insurance, you will find that Nancy Cladis does not come up as a licensed person. However, when search for “Cladis bail Bonds”, the following information:</p>
<p>Agency Information<br />
 Name: KATHY CLADIS BAIL BONDS LLC License Number: 380486<br />
 Address: 500 W IDAHO ST STE 200<br />
 Issued: 6/17/2011<br />
 BOISE, ID 83702-5755 Expires: 7/1/2013</p>
<p>Phone: (208) 344-3234 License Status:<br />
 License Type: Active<br />
 Bail Agency</p>
<p>Line Description Line Code<br />
 Bail Surety BSUR</p>
<p>To sort by category, click on the column header<br />
 Producers City State License Number Appointment Date<br />
 BLAKE, JOHN BOISE ID 35566 6/17/2011</p>
<p>Insurance Company City State License Number Appointment Date<br />
 SENECA INSURANCE COMPANY, INC. NEW YORK NY 1229 6/17/2011</p>
<p>Michael</p>
<p>Fastrak Bail Bonds Inc.<br />
 815 North Harbor Boulevard<br />
 Fullerton, California 92832<br />
 (714) 870-7730</p>
<p>Source(s):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.doi.idaho.gov/default.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.doi.idaho.gov/default.aspx</a></p>
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		By: Pissed - current probationer		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/06/probation-agency-defendant-in-class-action-lawsuit/#comment-25437</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pissed - current probationer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oct 19, 2011, 2:23 pm



Instead of continuing to talk about it, we need to take action.
 These commishes dont expect us to do anything but talk about it.
 Lets do something real. 

I propose a full display of disapproval. Picketing at ACMPS and at city hall, and at the court house. The week of 10-23 – 10-29
 
Comment if you agree and lets get organized. Everyone here is right and in agreement. What they are doing is ilegal. Lets hold them accountable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oct 19, 2011, 2:23 pm</p>
<p>Instead of continuing to talk about it, we need to take action.<br />
 These commishes dont expect us to do anything but talk about it.<br />
 Lets do something real. </p>
<p>I propose a full display of disapproval. Picketing at ACMPS and at city hall, and at the court house. The week of 10-23 – 10-29</p>
<p>Comment if you agree and lets get organized. Everyone here is right and in agreement. What they are doing is ilegal. Lets hold them accountable.</p>
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		By: Publica		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/06/probation-agency-defendant-in-class-action-lawsuit/#comment-25310</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Publica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ex, you are confused.

A whole lot of the time, being a criminal defense attorney is a lot like being a PO.

What your PO tells you when she is giving you grief about probation:  Have you started your class?  Why not?  Do you want to go to jail?

What your attorney tells you when you call her about the grief your PO is giving you: Well, have you started your class?  Uh, why not?  Get your butt in a class before the prosecutor thinks you are violating your probation and you get arrested and sit in jail for six weeks, because then you&#039;ll be calling me all the damn time.

Sounds pretty similar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex, you are confused.</p>
<p>A whole lot of the time, being a criminal defense attorney is a lot like being a PO.</p>
<p>What your PO tells you when she is giving you grief about probation:  Have you started your class?  Why not?  Do you want to go to jail?</p>
<p>What your attorney tells you when you call her about the grief your PO is giving you: Well, have you started your class?  Uh, why not?  Get your butt in a class before the prosecutor thinks you are violating your probation and you get arrested and sit in jail for six weeks, because then you&#8217;ll be calling me all the damn time.</p>
<p>Sounds pretty similar.</p>
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		By: ex probationer		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/06/probation-agency-defendant-in-class-action-lawsuit/#comment-25307</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ex probationer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Publica sounds like a PO.... &quot;I know the law chief&quot; kinda sounds like... my way or jail talk...or am I confused? I&#039;m sure that will get her sights set on me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publica sounds like a PO&#8230;. &#8220;I know the law chief&#8221; kinda sounds like&#8230; my way or jail talk&#8230;or am I confused? I&#8217;m sure that will get her sights set on me.</p>
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		By: Publica		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/06/probation-agency-defendant-in-class-action-lawsuit/#comment-25305</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Publica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought that was pretty not hostile.  In real life I&#039;m a complete ahole.

Color me frustrated.  ACMPS has been a thorn in our side for a LONG time and Gordon&#039;s action has been a long time coming.  I know the argument that ACMPS is using to justify its actions.  Gordon&#039;s argument is good and I agree with it, but what the courts will do with it . . .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that was pretty not hostile.  In real life I&#8217;m a complete ahole.</p>
<p>Color me frustrated.  ACMPS has been a thorn in our side for a LONG time and Gordon&#8217;s action has been a long time coming.  I know the argument that ACMPS is using to justify its actions.  Gordon&#8217;s argument is good and I agree with it, but what the courts will do with it . . .</p>
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		By: Fees		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/06/probation-agency-defendant-in-class-action-lawsuit/#comment-25288</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 03:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Publica,

If we&#039;re on the same side, why not rebuke/correct me in a more friendly manner? I&#039;m always open to receive correction.

It would benefit everyone on this board if we kept it cordial.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publica,</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re on the same side, why not rebuke/correct me in a more friendly manner? I&#8217;m always open to receive correction.</p>
<p>It would benefit everyone on this board if we kept it cordial.</p>
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		By: Publica		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/06/probation-agency-defendant-in-class-action-lawsuit/#comment-25284</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Publica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fees:

I know the law, chief.  ACMPS bases its argument on 19-2608, which says a probationer must pay for testing of breath or bodily fluids.  

The plain language of that statute applies only when a court orders the testing.  The problem is that the judgments don&#039;t order such testing - ACMPS just tells everyone to do it.

Additionally, the statute says the probationer has to pay the government agency providing the test.  Nancy isn&#039;t a government agency.

That code section is older than the statutes I laid our previously.  The doctrine of implied repeal would kick in to the extent it could gymnastically be read to apply to non-court ordered testing done by a private company.

We&#039;re on the same side.  I don&#039;t require correction...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fees:</p>
<p>I know the law, chief.  ACMPS bases its argument on 19-2608, which says a probationer must pay for testing of breath or bodily fluids.  </p>
<p>The plain language of that statute applies only when a court orders the testing.  The problem is that the judgments don&#8217;t order such testing &#8211; ACMPS just tells everyone to do it.</p>
<p>Additionally, the statute says the probationer has to pay the government agency providing the test.  Nancy isn&#8217;t a government agency.</p>
<p>That code section is older than the statutes I laid our previously.  The doctrine of implied repeal would kick in to the extent it could gymnastically be read to apply to non-court ordered testing done by a private company.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re on the same side.  I don&#8217;t require correction&#8230;</p>
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		By: Fees		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/06/probation-agency-defendant-in-class-action-lawsuit/#comment-25265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Publica,

ACMPS cannot, as part of their terms, require you to do anything that violates the law. Being charged for UAs caused them to require you to pay more than the law allowed.

Perhaps they could, as part of their terms, have required UAs. But, it would have had to be at ACMPS, Inc.&#039;s expense.

The law is explicit in that it states the cost of supervision cannot exceed a certain amount INCLUDING testing for drugs and alcohol.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publica,</p>
<p>ACMPS cannot, as part of their terms, require you to do anything that violates the law. Being charged for UAs caused them to require you to pay more than the law allowed.</p>
<p>Perhaps they could, as part of their terms, have required UAs. But, it would have had to be at ACMPS, Inc.&#8217;s expense.</p>
<p>The law is explicit in that it states the cost of supervision cannot exceed a certain amount INCLUDING testing for drugs and alcohol.</p>
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