Comments on: When The “Nonprofit” Saints Go Marching In It’s A Taxpayer Shuffle https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/ A different slant on the news. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 18:16:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Snowbunny https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/#comment-25785 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 18:16:43 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7183#comment-25785 If they are tax exempt, are their books subject to public inspection?

EDITOR NOTE–Only certain information required to maintain the non-profit status is required to be made public–like the loans and compensation to top executives.

]]> By: embarrassed https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/#comment-25784 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 18:01:47 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7183#comment-25784 I don’t think they should be in a tax exempt status – unless any business that gives something back can file the same way

]]> By: One Who Knows https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/#comment-25537 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 05:55:17 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7183#comment-25537 Charity? R U Kidding Me? When a hospital treats you and you have no way to pay, the hospital bills your county. They don’t give away jack (expletive deleted)! The tax payers foot the bill!

]]> By: Zippo https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/#comment-25370 Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:53:04 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7183#comment-25370 Clpptcp, nothing is unreimbursed… they just shift the “free care” to the inflaited bills which they know are most likely to get paid. Ask them up front “how much?” and they say “what kind of insurance do you have and how much is your net-worth?” The county also pays for some “free care” too. It is what it is, but lets not kid around.

]]> By: dog https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/#comment-25358 Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:05:24 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7183#comment-25358 Republicans don’t like to pay taxes, so why should hospitals?
Wonder how much the hospitals collect in sales tax on bandages and asprins? At $6.00/asprin that would be .36 cents.

I bet IACI would support the non tax position of hospitals since their #1 customer is Blue Cross.

]]> By: Bill Goodnight https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/#comment-25355 Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:19:14 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7183#comment-25355 Some time back I submitted an email to the Guardian in which I calculated the assessed property values of St.Lukes downtown campus (by visiting the assessor’s office).

Just based on their downtown campus the Boise School District alone loses $ six figures due to their tax exemption.

]]> By: Jerry https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/#comment-25352 Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:58:13 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7183#comment-25352 By all means: Let’s see the dollar amount that St. Luke’s and all other major Idaho hospitals give back to the community!

That would be a pro-democracy move, wouldn’t it?

The exact dollar figures may already be available for public scrutiny.

Why?

Because the IRS earlier this year released the re-designed “SCHEDULE H” — part of the form 990 and section 501(r) documentation that not-for-profit hospitals are supposed to complete.

The IRS is advising hospitals that — for 2010 reporting — some parts of this re-designed form are *voluntary.*

http://blog.communitycatalyst.org/index.php/tag/schedule-h/

Nevertheless, shouldn’t tax-exempt hospitals to show some evidence that would more clearly explain to all stakeholders why tax-exemption should continue?

Democracy would seem to argue in favor of greater public disclosure.

Nobody is disputing that the hospitals do good.

However, as former President Reagan said:

“Trust; but verify.”

If we grant tax-exemptions to all multimillion (or multibillion) dollar organizations that do good, then doesn’t that suggest that only the “little people” will end up paying the tax bills in the end?

]]> By: Clippityclop https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/#comment-25346 Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:54:35 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7183#comment-25346 Dave,

Publish what St. Luke’s gives back to the community in unreimbursed care and unpaid benefit. I think you’ll be surprised.

EDITOR NOTE–That figure is subjective. Like the 752 good citizens who donate their time and talents to the hospital as volunteers. Hard to justify volunteers when some staff positions are reduced. The big issue is a nonprofit loaning $1.7 million to doctors. It is illegal for corporate sector to loan cash to staffers. We think a close examination of ALL nonprofits is in order.

]]> By: Paul https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/#comment-25332 Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:23:59 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7183#comment-25332 Family Practice doctors are on the bottom of the income totem pole. I have heard about private doctors going under the wing of big name hospitals. They get paid a salary, don’t have the overhead nor the malpractice liability issues to deal with and add to that they can get a locked in work schedule.

Not a bad deal for a doc who does not want the hassles and worry of running a private practice.

]]> By: boisetaxpayer https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/16/when-the-nonprofit-saints-go-marching-in-its-a-taxpayer-shuffle/#comment-25331 Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:19:06 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7183#comment-25331 You have taken to words right from my mouth. Well said.

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