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		By: Top Hat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Top Hat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a gold mine for an investigative reporter. I know the Statesman has few reporters on the beat these days. We need to get someone in the media to do a series of stories on this. Maybe the Press Tribune could take it on.


 This has the potential to be an award winning story - the plot thickens every day. The judges need to contact all of the folks who have and are currently on probation and promise them there will be no fallout if they are willing to tell their story. Everyone I know is scared to say anything for fear that Nancy will make them pay in the end. 

This story is one for the books - look at all the alleged twists and turns to date. I am not the brightest bulb in the room but this is what I see as allegations:  bail bonds owner who only sells businessafter it appears to be a conflict of interest with her new gov private contract, government officials approve her new contract despite all concerns raised, relatives of same govt officials clients of Cladis, fundraising parties at Cladis home, Cladis requiring UA&#039;s and classes etc not ordered by judges. Individuals being violated for  diluted UA&#039;s so they have to do more and pay more. Staff being told to collect cash as much as possible and I am sure others can add to this list.

And she has another gig going in Canyon County ( search google  Caldwell - Nancy Cladis Bail Bonds. 

I don&#039;t think it is much of a problem for her to move her UA operations to Canyon County and every other county in the state.

Someone smarter than me needs to generate a list of all the allegations and give it to the news channels, Boise Weekly, Press Tribune and the Statesman.

There are few stories that impact thousands of people and all of the taxpayers in this county.  Especially if the county is sued over this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a gold mine for an investigative reporter. I know the Statesman has few reporters on the beat these days. We need to get someone in the media to do a series of stories on this. Maybe the Press Tribune could take it on.</p>
<p> This has the potential to be an award winning story &#8211; the plot thickens every day. The judges need to contact all of the folks who have and are currently on probation and promise them there will be no fallout if they are willing to tell their story. Everyone I know is scared to say anything for fear that Nancy will make them pay in the end. </p>
<p>This story is one for the books &#8211; look at all the alleged twists and turns to date. I am not the brightest bulb in the room but this is what I see as allegations:  bail bonds owner who only sells businessafter it appears to be a conflict of interest with her new gov private contract, government officials approve her new contract despite all concerns raised, relatives of same govt officials clients of Cladis, fundraising parties at Cladis home, Cladis requiring UA&#8217;s and classes etc not ordered by judges. Individuals being violated for  diluted UA&#8217;s so they have to do more and pay more. Staff being told to collect cash as much as possible and I am sure others can add to this list.</p>
<p>And she has another gig going in Canyon County ( search google  Caldwell &#8211; Nancy Cladis Bail Bonds. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it is much of a problem for her to move her UA operations to Canyon County and every other county in the state.</p>
<p>Someone smarter than me needs to generate a list of all the allegations and give it to the news channels, Boise Weekly, Press Tribune and the Statesman.</p>
<p>There are few stories that impact thousands of people and all of the taxpayers in this county.  Especially if the county is sued over this.</p>
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		By: ru kidding		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have heard a rumor that the commishes made Nancy change a few things in her contract, one being that she cannot charge for UA&#039;s (her new Drug testing lab) is this true? How can I confirm this? Also, if this is true can she still charge her outrageous fees for SCRAM?

EDITOR NOTE--On page 5, paragraph &quot;H&quot; of agreement  #951 the language says the contractor cannot refer probationers to any program in which contractor has a financial interest.  The contract also prohibits trading work for fees.  You can get the contract from the commishes via a simple request for the pdf file.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard a rumor that the commishes made Nancy change a few things in her contract, one being that she cannot charge for UA&#8217;s (her new Drug testing lab) is this true? How can I confirm this? Also, if this is true can she still charge her outrageous fees for SCRAM?</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;On page 5, paragraph &#8220;H&#8221; of agreement  #951 the language says the contractor cannot refer probationers to any program in which contractor has a financial interest.  The contract also prohibits trading work for fees.  You can get the contract from the commishes via a simple request for the pdf file.</p>
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		By: Publica		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[lexpublica@gmail.com

Or you can get my work e-mail off the state Bar website.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:lexpublica@gmail.com">lexpublica@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Or you can get my work e-mail off the state Bar website.</p>
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		By: Tina Baird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Baird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Publica
could you please post your email address, I do have a couple of legal questions for you, since I know who you are I can trust you. 
Thanks
Tina]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publica<br />
could you please post your email address, I do have a couple of legal questions for you, since I know who you are I can trust you.<br />
Thanks<br />
Tina</p>
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		By: Publica		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Publica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t just sue anybody you want.  You have to have &quot;standing.&quot;  That normally means YOU are the party who has been injured.  Tina wouldn&#039;t appear to have standing to sue ACMPS on the basis of its violations of the rights of people on probation.

Additionally, for the most part bosses get to be jerks.  &quot;Hostile work environment&quot; has a specific legal definition that is most commonly tied to the classes that are protected from unlawful discrimination - age, race, sex, religion, national origin, disability, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t just sue anybody you want.  You have to have &#8220;standing.&#8221;  That normally means YOU are the party who has been injured.  Tina wouldn&#8217;t appear to have standing to sue ACMPS on the basis of its violations of the rights of people on probation.</p>
<p>Additionally, for the most part bosses get to be jerks.  &#8220;Hostile work environment&#8221; has a specific legal definition that is most commonly tied to the classes that are protected from unlawful discrimination &#8211; age, race, sex, religion, national origin, disability, etc.</p>
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		By: Karma		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regardless as to why Tina left the Prosecutors Office, the issue with ACMPS is different. It is different because Nancy has been verbally and emotionally abusive to employees for years. Tina had the guts to speak up and bring attention to this, when other employees did not, myself included. Nancy thrives on power and control, and consistently displayed behavior that was ethically challenged, to say the least. Employees were afraid of her, because of her tactics and the repercussions that followed. Tina did the right thing in this situation, which is where the focus is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless as to why Tina left the Prosecutors Office, the issue with ACMPS is different. It is different because Nancy has been verbally and emotionally abusive to employees for years. Tina had the guts to speak up and bring attention to this, when other employees did not, myself included. Nancy thrives on power and control, and consistently displayed behavior that was ethically challenged, to say the least. Employees were afraid of her, because of her tactics and the repercussions that followed. Tina did the right thing in this situation, which is where the focus is.</p>
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		By: Here's a thought		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/10/21/commish-ullman-talks-probation-issues/#comment-25539</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Here's a thought]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tina,
I couldn&#039;t help but notice that you continue to claim you had proof for the commissioners, why don&#039;t you take that proof to an attorney and file a civil lawsuit against her. Hit her where it will hurt the most, her pocketbook.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tina,<br />
I couldn&#8217;t help but notice that you continue to claim you had proof for the commissioners, why don&#8217;t you take that proof to an attorney and file a civil lawsuit against her. Hit her where it will hurt the most, her pocketbook.</p>
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		By: One Who Knows		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[One Who Knows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sharon,

It&#039;s no mystery why Rick and Vern renewed the probation contract. They both have adult children who have been on probation in Ada County. One as recently as 2008. So I&#039;m sure they know Nancy Cladis rather well. Which brings up the question of conflict of interest. Can they legally sign the contract having had immediate family under Nancy&#039;s control? That may explain why Vern avoided meeting with Tina and Bob and Rick only gave a token five minutes. They had already made a decision. I also heard a rumor that they signed the contract in advance of the BOCC meeting. If that is true it sure sounds a little back roomish to me. I think THAT should be investigated as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no mystery why Rick and Vern renewed the probation contract. They both have adult children who have been on probation in Ada County. One as recently as 2008. So I&#8217;m sure they know Nancy Cladis rather well. Which brings up the question of conflict of interest. Can they legally sign the contract having had immediate family under Nancy&#8217;s control? That may explain why Vern avoided meeting with Tina and Bob and Rick only gave a token five minutes. They had already made a decision. I also heard a rumor that they signed the contract in advance of the BOCC meeting. If that is true it sure sounds a little back roomish to me. I think THAT should be investigated as well.</p>
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		By: Huh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Huh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Tina, 

Are you the same Tina Baird that stomped out of the Ada County Prosecutors Office because you didn&#039;t like your boss there either? I ask this because you are portraying yourself as a credible source and considering your past employment you don&#039;t seem credible at all.

EDITOR NOTE--Play nice.  Not real fair to use a screen name and bash someone who uses their real name.  If you work for the prosecutor, it would be nice to know that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tina, </p>
<p>Are you the same Tina Baird that stomped out of the Ada County Prosecutors Office because you didn&#8217;t like your boss there either? I ask this because you are portraying yourself as a credible source and considering your past employment you don&#8217;t seem credible at all.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Play nice.  Not real fair to use a screen name and bash someone who uses their real name.  If you work for the prosecutor, it would be nice to know that.</p>
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		By: Tina Baird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Baird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 21:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will agree with Bob on this, thanks Sharon, you listened to us and you seen the proof we had sitting right in front of us. As for Rick he spent a whole five minutes with us and acted like he didn&#039;t have the time to listen to us. Vern, well we never did have the opportunity to meet with him. I will continue to fight this fight until the other two commissioners LISTEN to us!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will agree with Bob on this, thanks Sharon, you listened to us and you seen the proof we had sitting right in front of us. As for Rick he spent a whole five minutes with us and acted like he didn&#8217;t have the time to listen to us. Vern, well we never did have the opportunity to meet with him. I will continue to fight this fight until the other two commissioners LISTEN to us!!</p>
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