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	Comments on: M3 Spring Valley Development Has No Voters To Approve Financing Scam	</title>
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		By: steve edgar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve edgar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CJ, Great news!  My faith in the Eagle City Council is restored.  I am thankful that cool heads prevailed and pointed questions were asked. I am also grateful that the council is proceeding with caution. Happy to hear of the turn out, in times such as these, many people are just making ends meet day to day and drop the extra effort to participate in community discussions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ, Great news!  My faith in the Eagle City Council is restored.  I am thankful that cool heads prevailed and pointed questions were asked. I am also grateful that the council is proceeding with caution. Happy to hear of the turn out, in times such as these, many people are just making ends meet day to day and drop the extra effort to participate in community discussions.</p>
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		By: CJ Petrovsky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CJ Petrovsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, Steve and Paul, there was quite a bit of testimony at Council last night on the CID.

Most of it centered on &quot;proceed with caution&quot; and the criticality of the CID board (3 Council members, per statute) having strong authority and a deep bench of independent advisors.

Several of us urged that the Council plan for worst case (see Avimor); that the 2007 M3 economic analysis be completely overhauled to reflect new reality (BEFORE the CID is authorized--to assess project viability); and that the M3-proposed buyer disclosure form be greatly expanded so SV buyers have some clue on their exposure.

Council was listening intently, plans to consult with a variety of others who&#039;ve had experience with this sort of financing mechanism and will, I&#039;m fairly confident, substantially modify the District Development Agreement proposed by M3.  The public hearing is still open.

There&#039;s still healthy interest and participation out here on the M3 plan and, importantly, this is an entirely different and much stronger Council than that which approved the entitlements in 2007.

We&#039;ll see how it ultimately shakes out.  It&#039;s pretty clear several on Council, particularly John Grasser, are going to move very slowly--with a laser focus on protecting the City and the future residents of this development.

EDITOR NOTE--CJ, thanks for the report.  You are welcome on the site anytime to share information with GUARDIAN readers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Steve and Paul, there was quite a bit of testimony at Council last night on the CID.</p>
<p>Most of it centered on &#8220;proceed with caution&#8221; and the criticality of the CID board (3 Council members, per statute) having strong authority and a deep bench of independent advisors.</p>
<p>Several of us urged that the Council plan for worst case (see Avimor); that the 2007 M3 economic analysis be completely overhauled to reflect new reality (BEFORE the CID is authorized&#8211;to assess project viability); and that the M3-proposed buyer disclosure form be greatly expanded so SV buyers have some clue on their exposure.</p>
<p>Council was listening intently, plans to consult with a variety of others who&#8217;ve had experience with this sort of financing mechanism and will, I&#8217;m fairly confident, substantially modify the District Development Agreement proposed by M3.  The public hearing is still open.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s still healthy interest and participation out here on the M3 plan and, importantly, this is an entirely different and much stronger Council than that which approved the entitlements in 2007.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see how it ultimately shakes out.  It&#8217;s pretty clear several on Council, particularly John Grasser, are going to move very slowly&#8211;with a laser focus on protecting the City and the future residents of this development.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;CJ, thanks for the report.  You are welcome on the site anytime to share information with GUARDIAN readers.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Communities are so desperate for any kind of growth at any price they are willing to sell their souls and those of their residents to subsidize developers.

This is shameful behavior and they get away with it because residents are asleep and apathetic to what is going on in their own cities.  The need to turn off FOX NEWS, CNN and other news-porn and start paying attention to what is happening on a local level. It is the local level where citizens take it in the shorts most frequently and the one place their vote really does count.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Communities are so desperate for any kind of growth at any price they are willing to sell their souls and those of their residents to subsidize developers.</p>
<p>This is shameful behavior and they get away with it because residents are asleep and apathetic to what is going on in their own cities.  The need to turn off FOX NEWS, CNN and other news-porn and start paying attention to what is happening on a local level. It is the local level where citizens take it in the shorts most frequently and the one place their vote really does count.</p>
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		By: steve edgar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve edgar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 02:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here we go again.  I am truly surprised no one in Eagle has commented on this one.  Looks like M3 will have its way with public monies due to apathy.  The CID/LID is just another vehicle for elected officials to tell the electorate what is good for them.  I was always curious how Eagle came to approve/disapprove M3.  That area was part of Ada County P&#038;Z jurisdiction unless creative annexation quietly took place.  M3 Testified at public hearings in front of Ada P&#038;Z on water issues (lack thereof mostly). If they are looking at a planned community, I would ask that they show me one in all of Idaho that has been successful and not fallen onto the tax payers shoulders to &quot;fix&quot; and pay for when the developer fails at producing a viable PC.  Can you say Hidden Springs?  Commercial district, trip capture,charter school, and Fire Department; all were left to the tax payers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go again.  I am truly surprised no one in Eagle has commented on this one.  Looks like M3 will have its way with public monies due to apathy.  The CID/LID is just another vehicle for elected officials to tell the electorate what is good for them.  I was always curious how Eagle came to approve/disapprove M3.  That area was part of Ada County P&amp;Z jurisdiction unless creative annexation quietly took place.  M3 Testified at public hearings in front of Ada P&amp;Z on water issues (lack thereof mostly). If they are looking at a planned community, I would ask that they show me one in all of Idaho that has been successful and not fallen onto the tax payers shoulders to &#8220;fix&#8221; and pay for when the developer fails at producing a viable PC.  Can you say Hidden Springs?  Commercial district, trip capture,charter school, and Fire Department; all were left to the tax payers.</p>
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