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		By: chicago sam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chicago sam]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Experts in the valley have been asked about the viability of what Dynamis is proposing--The answer from more than one source is yes it is technically feasable but at what cost. Whether you end up paying higher garbage rares, higher electricity rates or are somehow stuck with the bonds the people of Ada county will end up footing the bill and it will not be cheap--2 million is chump change]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experts in the valley have been asked about the viability of what Dynamis is proposing&#8211;The answer from more than one source is yes it is technically feasable but at what cost. Whether you end up paying higher garbage rares, higher electricity rates or are somehow stuck with the bonds the people of Ada county will end up footing the bill and it will not be cheap&#8211;2 million is chump change</p>
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		By: Paul M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So it looks like it is business as usual.  The office that would need to investigate any violations of the open meeting law may have been involved or at the very least knows about it.  We all know in politics that very little will change unless you have the money to really dig into all of the info.  Either that or enough noise is made in a more public forum to bring pressure on the PA’s office.  Remember that (supposedly) these people work for us.  I encourage everyone to make calls and send emails.

PA’s office             287-770 or 287-7709     adacountyprosecutor@adaweb.net

Idaho Statesman   
President &#038; Publisher   Mike Jung   377-6301      publisher@idahostatesman.com

Editor &#038; Vice Pre3sident   Vicki S Gowler  377-6403        vgowler@idahostatesman.com

The Associated Press (Boise)    343-1894 

KBOI   (CH2)      472.2207   jweindel@kboi2.com 
     
Truth Squad        http://www.kboi2.com/news/truthsquad/submission
  
KIVI  (CH6)        381-6660  dnelson@kivitv.com               medmonds@kivitv.com 

KTVB  (CH 7)     321-5614   ktvbnews@ktvb.com

KNIN   (CH9)     news@fox9now.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it looks like it is business as usual.  The office that would need to investigate any violations of the open meeting law may have been involved or at the very least knows about it.  We all know in politics that very little will change unless you have the money to really dig into all of the info.  Either that or enough noise is made in a more public forum to bring pressure on the PA’s office.  Remember that (supposedly) these people work for us.  I encourage everyone to make calls and send emails.</p>
<p>PA’s office             287-770 or 287-7709     <a href="mailto:adacountyprosecutor@adaweb.net">adacountyprosecutor@adaweb.net</a></p>
<p>Idaho Statesman<br />
President &amp; Publisher   Mike Jung   377-6301      <a href="mailto:publisher@idahostatesman.com">publisher@idahostatesman.com</a></p>
<p>Editor &amp; Vice Pre3sident   Vicki S Gowler  377-6403        <a href="mailto:vgowler@idahostatesman.com">vgowler@idahostatesman.com</a></p>
<p>The Associated Press (Boise)    343-1894 </p>
<p>KBOI   (CH2)      472.2207   <a href="mailto:jweindel@kboi2.com">jweindel@kboi2.com</a> </p>
<p>Truth Squad        <a href="http://www.kboi2.com/news/truthsquad/submission" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.kboi2.com/news/truthsquad/submission</a></p>
<p>KIVI  (CH6)        381-6660  <a href="mailto:dnelson@kivitv.com">dnelson@kivitv.com</a>               <a href="mailto:medmonds@kivitv.com">medmonds@kivitv.com</a> </p>
<p>KTVB  (CH 7)     321-5614   <a href="mailto:ktvbnews@ktvb.com">ktvbnews@ktvb.com</a></p>
<p>KNIN   (CH9)     <a href="mailto:news@fox9now.com">news@fox9now.com</a></p>
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		By: Fed Up with the Cover Up		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fed Up with the Cover Up]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More smoke-n-mirrors---consulting contract!  I agree with you Guardian, it&#039;s a loan or just front money that we will never get back - who knows?!  So now are you saying they have until April 2013 to pay it back?  That&#039;s the first I have heard of that extension.  I guess we have really jumped past the 6 mth repayment statements. 

Sounds like the story keeps changing or words keeping being added to change the context of the statements.   Ullman potential statement:   &quot;No, what I (really) meant to say was 6mths after they are rolling in the dough and THEY DECIDE they want to pay us back.&quot;  Perhaps someone should check to see if Dynamis shareholders are the children of any of the commissioners.  Of course I am being a little facetious but really, how can you get away with that in any other business aside from a dealing with a government agency taking public money (as Guardian so aptly points out).  

Regardless of that issue, they still violated the open meeting law MULTIPLE times, not to mention the illegal electioneering amongst a myriad of other actions.  If an outside investigator looked at Ullman&#039;s county computer, I am confident they would find so much information that should not have been done on taxpayer equipment it would be shocking to the public and further, since she uses her personal laptop for much of her &quot;county business&quot;, that computer should be seized and the activities nvestigated on that one as well.    

As a citizen of this county, I have to admit I am no longer surprised that elected officials all over this country are corrupt.  We have it right here in our own county and no one is doing anything about it.  Has anyone even bothered to talk to CH2M Hill - the county&#039;s primary engineering firm/asked them for an opinion about the Dynamis project?  If not them, has anyone bothered to ask any engineering firm in the valley what their opinion is?  Seems like someone would seek out professionals to obtain an opinion as Ada County seems to be ensuring they have the right spin on statements to confuse the average person.  

To My Two Cents, loudmouth Ullman likely has a tough time explaining this but I am sure she is working on her infamous response.  Let me see, I suspect it would go something like this .... &quot;The former landfill directors did something we had to take care of and former employees are working with Vern to discredit this project and let&#039;s see, we didn&#039;t do anything wrong as we did all these wonderful things for the community like (blather, blather about this or that), and then see, I did such a great thing for our community and I am so proud of it because it was all me, me, me.... I swooped in and saved the day, all the poor county citizens, etc.  Perhaps if she isn&#039;t mad at Rick, she may say my colleague and I, blather, blather, blather.  Finally, &quot;see, I saved the entire county and again, it was all me, me, me.  Oh wait, did I say ME yet?  It was me, me, me!!   Aren&#039;t you so thankful you have ME?!  

I encourage everyone to contact the AG’s office and ask for an investigation.

EDITOR NOTE--Under Idaho law the AG will NOT investigate based on a citizen complaint.  The local prosecutor is the sole authority except under very specific circumstances.  Based on what the GUARDIAN is aware of, this case has a lot of questionable decisions, but nothing that would warrant a &quot;public corruption&quot; investigation.  ALSO, we have reached the saturation point for personal attacks on Ullman or anyone else.  Critical comments are fine, but repeated attacks are not our style.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More smoke-n-mirrors&#8212;consulting contract!  I agree with you Guardian, it&#8217;s a loan or just front money that we will never get back &#8211; who knows?!  So now are you saying they have until April 2013 to pay it back?  That&#8217;s the first I have heard of that extension.  I guess we have really jumped past the 6 mth repayment statements. </p>
<p>Sounds like the story keeps changing or words keeping being added to change the context of the statements.   Ullman potential statement:   &#8220;No, what I (really) meant to say was 6mths after they are rolling in the dough and THEY DECIDE they want to pay us back.&#8221;  Perhaps someone should check to see if Dynamis shareholders are the children of any of the commissioners.  Of course I am being a little facetious but really, how can you get away with that in any other business aside from a dealing with a government agency taking public money (as Guardian so aptly points out).  </p>
<p>Regardless of that issue, they still violated the open meeting law MULTIPLE times, not to mention the illegal electioneering amongst a myriad of other actions.  If an outside investigator looked at Ullman&#8217;s county computer, I am confident they would find so much information that should not have been done on taxpayer equipment it would be shocking to the public and further, since she uses her personal laptop for much of her &#8220;county business&#8221;, that computer should be seized and the activities nvestigated on that one as well.    </p>
<p>As a citizen of this county, I have to admit I am no longer surprised that elected officials all over this country are corrupt.  We have it right here in our own county and no one is doing anything about it.  Has anyone even bothered to talk to CH2M Hill &#8211; the county&#8217;s primary engineering firm/asked them for an opinion about the Dynamis project?  If not them, has anyone bothered to ask any engineering firm in the valley what their opinion is?  Seems like someone would seek out professionals to obtain an opinion as Ada County seems to be ensuring they have the right spin on statements to confuse the average person.  </p>
<p>To My Two Cents, loudmouth Ullman likely has a tough time explaining this but I am sure she is working on her infamous response.  Let me see, I suspect it would go something like this &#8230;. &#8220;The former landfill directors did something we had to take care of and former employees are working with Vern to discredit this project and let&#8217;s see, we didn&#8217;t do anything wrong as we did all these wonderful things for the community like (blather, blather about this or that), and then see, I did such a great thing for our community and I am so proud of it because it was all me, me, me&#8230;. I swooped in and saved the day, all the poor county citizens, etc.  Perhaps if she isn&#8217;t mad at Rick, she may say my colleague and I, blather, blather, blather.  Finally, &#8220;see, I saved the entire county and again, it was all me, me, me.  Oh wait, did I say ME yet?  It was me, me, me!!   Aren&#8217;t you so thankful you have ME?!  </p>
<p>I encourage everyone to contact the AG’s office and ask for an investigation.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Under Idaho law the AG will NOT investigate based on a citizen complaint.  The local prosecutor is the sole authority except under very specific circumstances.  Based on what the GUARDIAN is aware of, this case has a lot of questionable decisions, but nothing that would warrant a &#8220;public corruption&#8221; investigation.  ALSO, we have reached the saturation point for personal attacks on Ullman or anyone else.  Critical comments are fine, but repeated attacks are not our style.</p>
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		By: Just My Two Cents		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/06/guardian-reader-plugs-into-dynamis-deal/#comment-25850</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just My Two Cents]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All County money is taxpayer money, yes.  The distinction the Commissioners make is that it did not come from property tax dollars.  I too thought it was from stimulus funds, but I stand corrected. Apparently it was from landfill money as indicated by others with more knowledge than I have.  i&#039;m sure you can do a public records request to the Auditor&#039;s Office and theywill identify any and all stimulus funds received.  They keep very careful and accurate records in that office of every penny coming and going.  I would suggest directing all questions to the Office of the Auditor to get a straight answer on these monetary questions. I do not see why you&#039;d have to ask the feds. And I agree with others.  The citizens should DEMAND an investigation by the Attorney General&#039;s Office into the illegal electioneering on County time, into the shenanigans of this Dynamis contract, and the variety of other issues people have mentioned.  Interesting how quiet the loudmouthed Ullman has become of late...

EDITOR NOTE--Best catch-all term is &quot;PUBLIC MONEY.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All County money is taxpayer money, yes.  The distinction the Commissioners make is that it did not come from property tax dollars.  I too thought it was from stimulus funds, but I stand corrected. Apparently it was from landfill money as indicated by others with more knowledge than I have.  i&#8217;m sure you can do a public records request to the Auditor&#8217;s Office and theywill identify any and all stimulus funds received.  They keep very careful and accurate records in that office of every penny coming and going.  I would suggest directing all questions to the Office of the Auditor to get a straight answer on these monetary questions. I do not see why you&#8217;d have to ask the feds. And I agree with others.  The citizens should DEMAND an investigation by the Attorney General&#8217;s Office into the illegal electioneering on County time, into the shenanigans of this Dynamis contract, and the variety of other issues people have mentioned.  Interesting how quiet the loudmouthed Ullman has become of late&#8230;</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Best catch-all term is &#8220;PUBLIC MONEY.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Paul m		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/06/guardian-reader-plugs-into-dynamis-deal/#comment-25849</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul m]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[EDITOR NOTE–How naive can you get? The prosecuting attorney’s office was the legal advisor on the deal!

Point taken and I may have been naïve to think the PA’s office would walk away from a deal they know to be illegal  - So now the question is  will the AG&#039;s look into this?   Normally the AG won’t get involved unless the PA’s office asks them to.

EDITOR NOTE–The BIB BIG issue is the county is prohibited by the Idaho Constitution from loaning money or credit to private parties. Based on the previously explained intent, it is clearly a loan–despite claims of ownership of design plans which are truly worthless.

I’m also wondering if an information request to the Federal Government would show if Ada County actually got any stimulus funds.  I’d like to know where the money came from – and whose pockets it ended up in.

EDITOR NOTE--So far the money came from Ada taxpayers, but there is an impending deadline to apply for some sort of energy rebate credit.  As it sits, Dynamis has a final construction completion deadline of April 2013 if memory serves us.  HArd to go after the loan deal--which it is in our opinion--because they are now calling it a &quot;consulting contract.&quot;  Shy of a major smoking gun, we are on hold at the present time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EDITOR NOTE–How naive can you get? The prosecuting attorney’s office was the legal advisor on the deal!</p>
<p>Point taken and I may have been naïve to think the PA’s office would walk away from a deal they know to be illegal  &#8211; So now the question is  will the AG&#8217;s look into this?   Normally the AG won’t get involved unless the PA’s office asks them to.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE–The BIB BIG issue is the county is prohibited by the Idaho Constitution from loaning money or credit to private parties. Based on the previously explained intent, it is clearly a loan–despite claims of ownership of design plans which are truly worthless.</p>
<p>I’m also wondering if an information request to the Federal Government would show if Ada County actually got any stimulus funds.  I’d like to know where the money came from – and whose pockets it ended up in.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;So far the money came from Ada taxpayers, but there is an impending deadline to apply for some sort of energy rebate credit.  As it sits, Dynamis has a final construction completion deadline of April 2013 if memory serves us.  HArd to go after the loan deal&#8211;which it is in our opinion&#8211;because they are now calling it a &#8220;consulting contract.&#8221;  Shy of a major smoking gun, we are on hold at the present time.</p>
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		By: chicago sam		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/06/guardian-reader-plugs-into-dynamis-deal/#comment-25843</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chicago sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow Bunny and Kappa TA Thank you for correcting me on whether it was stimulus funds or not--I made an assumption based on the project at Dubois, Idaho. But it was county money and the County has accepted stimulus funds for other programs. SnowBunny realy hits the nail on the head with the repeated violations of origional agreement as to time frame. Another point that really is beyond my expertise is--How can a $60 million project on county owned property escape the bid process and requests for proposals. There are many waste to energy plants nationwide and internationally. We might even be lucky enough to have the designers of the plants in Spokane or Harrisburg, Pa present better more cost effective proposals. Unclear to me is who pays for running the gas lines to the project and the electric lines out]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow Bunny and Kappa TA Thank you for correcting me on whether it was stimulus funds or not&#8211;I made an assumption based on the project at Dubois, Idaho. But it was county money and the County has accepted stimulus funds for other programs. SnowBunny realy hits the nail on the head with the repeated violations of origional agreement as to time frame. Another point that really is beyond my expertise is&#8211;How can a $60 million project on county owned property escape the bid process and requests for proposals. There are many waste to energy plants nationwide and internationally. We might even be lucky enough to have the designers of the plants in Spokane or Harrisburg, Pa present better more cost effective proposals. Unclear to me is who pays for running the gas lines to the project and the electric lines out</p>
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		By: Snow Bunny		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/06/guardian-reader-plugs-into-dynamis-deal/#comment-25839</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow Bunny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, I have some more questions ....  as I understand it the money that was given to Dynamis was not stimulus money but money from County coffers from user fees (like tipping fees, etc.) that covered this two million dollar expenditure.   While some may say this isn&#039;t taxpayer dollars (it&#039;s from fees), I beg to differ ---- really, those that use the landfill and pay the fees are tax payers/uh, we all have mandatory trash service, etc. don&#039;t we?! --we&#039;re users and taxpayers  -- it&#039;s semantics folks.  

All money in the county coffers including those in this enterprise fund comes from USERS WHO ARE TAXPAYERS!!   From what I have found Ada County front loaded Dynamis to the tune of $2 Million in hopes (at least from Dynamis&#039; perspective) of gaining stimulus money that would have been PAID TO DYNAMIS for this project and that Dynamis, once getting this jump start from Ada County, would be able to qualify for the stimulus funding under the Obama administration.    Regardless, we have been repeatedly told that we would get the $2 million back within six months.   

As stated in previous posts, six month windows have come and gone so what does that mean?  When will we get our money back and why doesn&#039;t anyone aside from the Guardian care about this?  It&#039;s our elected officials recklessly throwing away our money.  Another question for taxpayers is what happens if this project never makes it to fruition as many across the Treasure Valley and surrounding areas predict?  

Will Ada County ever recover the $2 million dollars paid for (sarcastically referenced) design plans?    An additional tip of troubling information is that Commissioner Sharon Ullman forced employees to process payments to Dynamis very short notice in the sums of at least $250k at a time and that she signed for those herself ensuring delivery to Dynamis.  

Get real folks, what other contractor at Ada County receives personal delivery or assurance thereof of a contractual check from one of the CEO&#039;s?  Do you suppose that Steve Appleton hand-delivers checks to contractors with Micron ----I think not!!  Adding to the many questions on the table: 1) has any other contractor at Ada County had a commissioner personally walk through the payment process for them and 2) why did Sharon push through an &quot;emergency pay&quot; process on Dynamis documentation and 3) why is her signature on the documents for the actual checks once they were cut to Dynamis   4) again, has this ever happened with any other contractor or vendor at the county?   

To check my statements, submit a public records request to the County Clerk asking to see all vendor information on the vendor Dynamis or any other contractor you wish to compare them with.    You will find Commissioner Ullman&#039;s signature receipting for many, if not all, of the Dynamis $2 million dollar checks that were paid over a period of time.  Again, WHY??  

There is something that smells really bad about this whole deal.  The big question is what is it and I personally think that&#039;s something a forensic auditor is going to have to examine.  These commissioners were slick and out of control along with their spin doctor who covers everything up for them but they weren&#039;t that smart or they would have never let the Open Meeting law violations be a topic of discussion.  

There is something buried--it&#039;s begging for someone to find it.  And, it goes without saying, I/we are dying to know what it is.  There is no way all of this is on the up and up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I have some more questions &#8230;.  as I understand it the money that was given to Dynamis was not stimulus money but money from County coffers from user fees (like tipping fees, etc.) that covered this two million dollar expenditure.   While some may say this isn&#8217;t taxpayer dollars (it&#8217;s from fees), I beg to differ &#8212;- really, those that use the landfill and pay the fees are tax payers/uh, we all have mandatory trash service, etc. don&#8217;t we?! &#8211;we&#8217;re users and taxpayers  &#8212; it&#8217;s semantics folks.  </p>
<p>All money in the county coffers including those in this enterprise fund comes from USERS WHO ARE TAXPAYERS!!   From what I have found Ada County front loaded Dynamis to the tune of $2 Million in hopes (at least from Dynamis&#8217; perspective) of gaining stimulus money that would have been PAID TO DYNAMIS for this project and that Dynamis, once getting this jump start from Ada County, would be able to qualify for the stimulus funding under the Obama administration.    Regardless, we have been repeatedly told that we would get the $2 million back within six months.   </p>
<p>As stated in previous posts, six month windows have come and gone so what does that mean?  When will we get our money back and why doesn&#8217;t anyone aside from the Guardian care about this?  It&#8217;s our elected officials recklessly throwing away our money.  Another question for taxpayers is what happens if this project never makes it to fruition as many across the Treasure Valley and surrounding areas predict?  </p>
<p>Will Ada County ever recover the $2 million dollars paid for (sarcastically referenced) design plans?    An additional tip of troubling information is that Commissioner Sharon Ullman forced employees to process payments to Dynamis very short notice in the sums of at least $250k at a time and that she signed for those herself ensuring delivery to Dynamis.  </p>
<p>Get real folks, what other contractor at Ada County receives personal delivery or assurance thereof of a contractual check from one of the CEO&#8217;s?  Do you suppose that Steve Appleton hand-delivers checks to contractors with Micron &#8212;-I think not!!  Adding to the many questions on the table: 1) has any other contractor at Ada County had a commissioner personally walk through the payment process for them and 2) why did Sharon push through an &#8220;emergency pay&#8221; process on Dynamis documentation and 3) why is her signature on the documents for the actual checks once they were cut to Dynamis   4) again, has this ever happened with any other contractor or vendor at the county?   </p>
<p>To check my statements, submit a public records request to the County Clerk asking to see all vendor information on the vendor Dynamis or any other contractor you wish to compare them with.    You will find Commissioner Ullman&#8217;s signature receipting for many, if not all, of the Dynamis $2 million dollar checks that were paid over a period of time.  Again, WHY??  </p>
<p>There is something that smells really bad about this whole deal.  The big question is what is it and I personally think that&#8217;s something a forensic auditor is going to have to examine.  These commissioners were slick and out of control along with their spin doctor who covers everything up for them but they weren&#8217;t that smart or they would have never let the Open Meeting law violations be a topic of discussion.  </p>
<p>There is something buried&#8211;it&#8217;s begging for someone to find it.  And, it goes without saying, I/we are dying to know what it is.  There is no way all of this is on the up and up.</p>
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		By: I Know It's True Too		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Know It's True Too]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 03:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The money came out of County money.  Whether that money was from stimulus funds from the feds, I am not sure. But the money had been given to the county and the county handed it to Dynamis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The money came out of County money.  Whether that money was from stimulus funds from the feds, I am not sure. But the money had been given to the county and the county handed it to Dynamis.</p>
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		By: Kappa TA		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/06/guardian-reader-plugs-into-dynamis-deal/#comment-25819</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 20:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t know for sure if the $2 million was stimulus funds. As I recall, in the initial reports of this deal Commissioner Ullman said the county hoped to get stimulus funds. If that was the case, did the county apply for and receive the money? If not, why hasn&#039;t the $2 million been repaid? Was Lloyd given an extension?

EDITOR NOTE--The BIB BIG issue is the county is prohibited by the Idaho Constitution from loaning money or credit to private parties.  Based on the previously explained intent, it is clearly a loan--despite claims of ownership of design plans which are truly worthless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t know for sure if the $2 million was stimulus funds. As I recall, in the initial reports of this deal Commissioner Ullman said the county hoped to get stimulus funds. If that was the case, did the county apply for and receive the money? If not, why hasn&#8217;t the $2 million been repaid? Was Lloyd given an extension?</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The BIB BIG issue is the county is prohibited by the Idaho Constitution from loaning money or credit to private parties.  Based on the previously explained intent, it is clearly a loan&#8211;despite claims of ownership of design plans which are truly worthless.</p>
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		By: chicago sam		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/06/guardian-reader-plugs-into-dynamis-deal/#comment-25816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chicago sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You have to look at the powerful lure of what many politicians have come to regard as free money. Most are under the gun with high unemployment soaring internal costs and a public who in the main want the govt. to produce a quick fix rather than tugging on their own bootstraps. 

Along comes a company who promises more employment opportunities and at first blush sounds like a good idea--unless you do some research.
It is my understanding that the $2 million was stimulus funds looking for a home under the Obama administration&#039;s push for green energy--Ditto the study in Eastern Idaho to put a waste to energy plant in Dubois, Idaho. Study was paid for with stimulus funds channeled thru the Idaho Dept. of Commerce. That these study&#039;s or lack of said that something was economically viable was pretty much a foregone conclusion as the object was to justify the study. 

Exception has been Nampa but they are still trying, they just say the project isn&#039;t big enough. Elected officials have all of the traits of the rest of us including a great reluctance to admit a mistake. Also, like the rest of us a slick presentation is easier to swallow than a lot of tedious research]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to look at the powerful lure of what many politicians have come to regard as free money. Most are under the gun with high unemployment soaring internal costs and a public who in the main want the govt. to produce a quick fix rather than tugging on their own bootstraps. </p>
<p>Along comes a company who promises more employment opportunities and at first blush sounds like a good idea&#8211;unless you do some research.<br />
It is my understanding that the $2 million was stimulus funds looking for a home under the Obama administration&#8217;s push for green energy&#8211;Ditto the study in Eastern Idaho to put a waste to energy plant in Dubois, Idaho. Study was paid for with stimulus funds channeled thru the Idaho Dept. of Commerce. That these study&#8217;s or lack of said that something was economically viable was pretty much a foregone conclusion as the object was to justify the study. </p>
<p>Exception has been Nampa but they are still trying, they just say the project isn&#8217;t big enough. Elected officials have all of the traits of the rest of us including a great reluctance to admit a mistake. Also, like the rest of us a slick presentation is easier to swallow than a lot of tedious research</p>
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