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		By: Cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/16/boise-county-debt-easily-solved/#comment-26016</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you are looking for something to be worse than Twilegar being the Pa For Boise County? It could be Bieter! So thank your stars.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are looking for something to be worse than Twilegar being the Pa For Boise County? It could be Bieter! So thank your stars&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/16/boise-county-debt-easily-solved/#comment-25980</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Porcupine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clancy... Poor Legal advice... LOL

With Ron Twilegar as our Prosecuting attorney  what could go wrong?

http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/64165772.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clancy&#8230; Poor Legal advice&#8230; LOL</p>
<p>With Ron Twilegar as our Prosecuting attorney  what could go wrong?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/64165772.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/64165772.html</a></p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/16/boise-county-debt-easily-solved/#comment-25979</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;With regard to NIMBY, you should be critical of the poor legal advice and lack of judgement of your fellow politicos to the north.&quot;

From my readings, that is why McCall ran into trouble with construction of their sewer ponds.   Now that lawyer is an elected official here in Boise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With regard to NIMBY, you should be critical of the poor legal advice and lack of judgement of your fellow politicos to the north.&#8221;</p>
<p>From my readings, that is why McCall ran into trouble with construction of their sewer ponds.   Now that lawyer is an elected official here in Boise.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/16/boise-county-debt-easily-solved/#comment-25978</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This mess is just one more example of why a city/county manager form of government is needed. Any competent professionally trained county manager would never let this mess happen.

It is time people figure out an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of expensive cure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This mess is just one more example of why a city/county manager form of government is needed. Any competent professionally trained county manager would never let this mess happen.</p>
<p>It is time people figure out an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of expensive cure.</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2011/11/16/boise-county-debt-easily-solved/#comment-25977</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Porcupine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sue... as another resident of Boise County ( Idaho City) the real issue was NIMBY.  Folks couldn&#039;t have cared less if Alimar would have been built in Atlanta Idaho.

The sad thing about this whole thing is with the present economy Alimar would have never been built any way.

But what do I care... The Warm Springs swimming pool is being rebuilt and we now have a Verizon Hot spot in down town Idaho City ( Donna&#039;s Place) where you can get your Verizon cell phone service.  Only problem is it is only good for about 25 feet.

Both of those things should be worth 5 million dollars right?  Life is wonderful up in the hills of Idaho City]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue&#8230; as another resident of Boise County ( Idaho City) the real issue was NIMBY.  Folks couldn&#8217;t have cared less if Alimar would have been built in Atlanta Idaho.</p>
<p>The sad thing about this whole thing is with the present economy Alimar would have never been built any way.</p>
<p>But what do I care&#8230; The Warm Springs swimming pool is being rebuilt and we now have a Verizon Hot spot in down town Idaho City ( Donna&#8217;s Place) where you can get your Verizon cell phone service.  Only problem is it is only good for about 25 feet.</p>
<p>Both of those things should be worth 5 million dollars right?  Life is wonderful up in the hills of Idaho City</p>
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		By: SuesHappy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SuesHappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NIMBY was not the REAL issue behind the locals not wanting the Ranch.  Truly it was for the safety of the children.  The small communities surrounding Alimar Ranch are considered &quot;Where the truth is more interesting than fiction&quot;. Yes, there are squatters, homes burned, dogs shot AND unsolved murders. The ADA issue never came up until the end when conditional use permit was considered (which has a totally different set of mandates to comply with).  Without very good legal advice Boise County was doomed to fail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIMBY was not the REAL issue behind the locals not wanting the Ranch.  Truly it was for the safety of the children.  The small communities surrounding Alimar Ranch are considered &#8220;Where the truth is more interesting than fiction&#8221;. Yes, there are squatters, homes burned, dogs shot AND unsolved murders. The ADA issue never came up until the end when conditional use permit was considered (which has a totally different set of mandates to comply with).  Without very good legal advice Boise County was doomed to fail.</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BG since you play a lawyer online, one question.   While I see this as Necessary, is it Ordinary?   Do both those conditions have to be met?

EDITOR NOTE--There is always debate on whether both conditions need to be met, whether they are &quot;conjunctive,&quot; etc.  In this case I would argue it is NECESSARY to comply with the federal court order.  Legal obligations including wages, public safety, contractual agreements, and court proceedings (trial by jury and speedy trial) are certainly ORDINARY.  Generally speaking the term &quot;unforeseen expense of an emergency nature&quot; qualifies as ORDINARY and NECESSARY to get a judge to confirm the expense is an exception to the constitutional mandate to seek voter approval.  In short, it can&#039;t wait for voter approval.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BG since you play a lawyer online, one question.   While I see this as Necessary, is it Ordinary?   Do both those conditions have to be met?</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;There is always debate on whether both conditions need to be met, whether they are &#8220;conjunctive,&#8221; etc.  In this case I would argue it is NECESSARY to comply with the federal court order.  Legal obligations including wages, public safety, contractual agreements, and court proceedings (trial by jury and speedy trial) are certainly ORDINARY.  Generally speaking the term &#8220;unforeseen expense of an emergency nature&#8221; qualifies as ORDINARY and NECESSARY to get a judge to confirm the expense is an exception to the constitutional mandate to seek voter approval.  In short, it can&#8217;t wait for voter approval.</p>
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		By: 64.01%		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[64.01%]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clancy nails the irony of Guardian advocating for a judicial review solution.  But hey, Nixon went to China.

The other irony here is the Boise County Commission basically ended up listening to the growthophobes and NIMBY world view when denying the Alamar Ranch proposal.  One would think such a decision would prove popular on this blog site.

EDITOR NOTE--We have been very consistent in upholding the Idaho Constitution, despite the best efforts of Boise to get around that document.  At statehood the delegates to the constitutional convention cited the ORDINARY and NECESSARY need to pay jurors and unforeseen expenses of following the law when a major trial or other legal requirement comes up that cannot be budgeted.  The highest court in the land upheld my arguments regarding Article VIII, sec 3.  

Only after the city spent $60,000 of public money and the hospital association dropped nearly $.75 million with deceitful advertising were you able to pass a constitutional amendment.   There is no irony, merely honesty.  With regard to NIMBY, you should be critical of the poor legal advice and lack of judgement of your fellow politicos to the north.  As we have mentioned previously, they should have followed the example of Boise City in allowing Dennis Mansfield to install halfway houses all over the city.  No one wanted convicts in their neighborhood, but their &quot;disabilities&quot; came under the ADA classification and there was no legal way to prohibit them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clancy nails the irony of Guardian advocating for a judicial review solution.  But hey, Nixon went to China.</p>
<p>The other irony here is the Boise County Commission basically ended up listening to the growthophobes and NIMBY world view when denying the Alamar Ranch proposal.  One would think such a decision would prove popular on this blog site.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;We have been very consistent in upholding the Idaho Constitution, despite the best efforts of Boise to get around that document.  At statehood the delegates to the constitutional convention cited the ORDINARY and NECESSARY need to pay jurors and unforeseen expenses of following the law when a major trial or other legal requirement comes up that cannot be budgeted.  The highest court in the land upheld my arguments regarding Article VIII, sec 3.  </p>
<p>Only after the city spent $60,000 of public money and the hospital association dropped nearly $.75 million with deceitful advertising were you able to pass a constitutional amendment.   There is no irony, merely honesty.  With regard to NIMBY, you should be critical of the poor legal advice and lack of judgement of your fellow politicos to the north.  As we have mentioned previously, they should have followed the example of Boise City in allowing Dennis Mansfield to install halfway houses all over the city.  No one wanted convicts in their neighborhood, but their &#8220;disabilities&#8221; came under the ADA classification and there was no legal way to prohibit them.</p>
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		By: Anonyvox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonyvox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope you&#039;re right; it sickens me that the county is in this situation.  I think Oaas-Laney is despicable for putting the taxpayers into this position, and the commissioners were trying their best to act, but with limited information.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you&#8217;re right; it sickens me that the county is in this situation.  I think Oaas-Laney is despicable for putting the taxpayers into this position, and the commissioners were trying their best to act, but with limited information.</p>
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		By: SuesHappy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SuesHappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great solution, but do you think; If Boise County pays Oaas Laney then Soutfork Landing can pay thier back taxes to Boise County and Dynamis can pay Ada County?? Funny little circle of bedpartners!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great solution, but do you think; If Boise County pays Oaas Laney then Soutfork Landing can pay thier back taxes to Boise County and Dynamis can pay Ada County?? Funny little circle of bedpartners!</p>
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