Comments on: Anti F-35 Post In Interest Of Fair Play https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/ A different slant on the news. Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:17:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Jim DuFrain https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/#comment-29264 Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:17:47 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7862#comment-29264 I wrote the engine manufacturer long ago but did not receive any response until today.

Hello Jim – To answer your question, the F-35 aircraft and engine are designed to not require a high power engine run after maintenance at the unit level. Therefore the type of engine trim operation the reader is asking about would not be required at the base level only at the depot level and in that case the run would be done in a hush house.

]]> By: Kevin https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/#comment-28667 Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:39:56 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7862#comment-28667 The Arizona Center for Law in the Public Interest has released its expert report on the F-35 Draft Environment Impact Statement. Citing incomplete data, wrong data and misleading data in the DEIS, the Arizona legal team gives the study a failing grade. A copy of the report is available online: http://www.scribd.com/doc/85470452/The-Arizona-Center-for-Law-in-the-Public-Interest-Slices-and-Dices-the-F-35A-DEIS

]]> By: Kevin https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/#comment-28591 Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:59:59 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7862#comment-28591 Today is the last day to submit comments to the Air Force on the F-35A Draft Environmental Impact Study. According to the Air Force all concerns will be addressed in the final EIS. Email or fax your comments to:

David Martin, Air Force Contractor, and Kim Fornof

HQ AETC/A7CPP

266 F Street West, Bldg. 901

Randolph AFB, TX 78150-4319

Fax: 210-652-5649 Tel. 210-652-1961

Email: aetc.a7cp.inbox@us.af.mil

]]> By: No Jet Noise! https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/#comment-28484 Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:59:49 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7862#comment-28484 Wow! This is so cool!! I just love it when stuff works.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/153623

]]> By: No Jet Noise! https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/#comment-28483 Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:51:07 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7862#comment-28483 Rick, The facts win.

Why do you troll on here for people’s personal information? I’ve noticed this is the case with you on the probation posts as well. Kind of creepy. If you do not ask directly you state presumptions about posters which seem to be intended to cause the poster to reply with the corrected information. What are your intentions with the personal info you scape together?

]]> By: Rick https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/#comment-28480 Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:15:15 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7862#comment-28480 ok noise you win….and congrats on meeting Jack, played poker with him a couple times, nice enough guy..never said I was him.. btw what airline do you fly for?

]]> By: No Jet Noise! https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/#comment-28454 Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:11:52 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7862#comment-28454 Valparasio, FL is a very small town which shares a boundary with the air base in question. They have very little money to fight. The agreement is a victory for the town because the USAF said it recognizes the noise from the F-35 is too much and will not use the runway nearest the town. You need to read the report you posted. David won the fight as best they could. At least they had town leadership on their team. Many of the residence of the Florida town suing the USAF, are veterans or active duty serving on the nearby base. The noise really is that bad Rick.

Near the noise: Been there done that. Have made a lot of noise in fact. The F-15E at one mile away on takeoff is well above 65db. It is still too loud at 3 miles for a residential area. And that’s just one ship. How about a 4-ship formation launch. Of the chart ground shaking noise for miles. It’s why MHAFB is so far from town perhaps. Is it possible you have suffered hearing loss back in the day like everyone else on the flightline?

I’ve met Jack Nicholson… Had him on my airplane. Rick you’re no Jack Nicholson.

The military is needed and loved by me so long as they stay out of my back yard. They are one of the largest land owners in America, they can let me relax on my land in peace and quiet without compromising their readiness. I have willingly spent lots of money to buy them toys. They are not very responsible however and always want a better toy than the perfectly good ones they have now. Our future federal budgets will fix this habit for them. Unfortunately the military leadership has traditionally shorted the Veterans in favor of more toys. I will work to change that too.

The air quality in Boise is still similar to LA. It has improved since the influx of Cali people. But that is mostly because I retired my burn-barrel stove and old Ford-N, not because of the Cali people.

]]> By: Rick https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/#comment-28450 Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:10:09 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7862#comment-28450 Kevin
You are right, it is instructive, it tells me that the noise is not nearly as bad as you all are portraying. If it was that bad the city would not have settled they would have gone on with the suit.
Jet noise,
You don’t fear the facts, you skew them the way you feel will get the best response for your side. Go to Mt Home stand a mile away and listen you will hear the truth. None of you will do that because you don’t want to know the truth, I feel like Nicholson.
I guess the biggest thing that bothers me about this whole argument as a Veteran is this you people live under the freedom that having a military provides you, yet you rail against those that allow you to have that very freedom. If those people who live on the bases can live with the noise then you can too, you are no more important than they are.
You who compare Boise to LA remember what you told us when you moved here from cali. Were coming and if you don’t like it get out, we heard that a lot.

]]> By: Kevin https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/#comment-28442 Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:59:06 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7862#comment-28442 Thanks for posting the story on the Valparaiso settlement, Rick. There’s no need to use Valparaiso’s experience with the F-35 as a scare tactic. As one of the only communities to actually deal with the F-35 so far their experience is instructive.

It catches my eye, for instance, that Valparaiso didn’t get full noise data on the F-35 until they sued the Air Force under the Freedom of Information Act. Just as the Air Force was loath to share noise data with Valparaiso, so they’ve been less than forthcoming in the Boise and Tuscon DEIS. All we have so far are noise contour maps based on noise averages modeled in a computer simulation. It looks like they’ve studied the matter but they haven’t told us anything of substance.

]]> By: No Jet Noise! https://boiseguardian.com/2012/02/21/anti-f-35-post-in-interest-of-fair-play/#comment-28441 Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:55:15 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=7862#comment-28441 Boo! Many hard facts in this post which Rick agreed with:

Noise will be louder than anything ever based at Boise, Volume of flights will be far more than anything ever based at Boise, Air pollution will likely become the largest source in Ada/Canyon county cause by the burning of about 15,000 gallons of fuel per day an the airport and upward of 100,000 gallons per day in flights near Boise. Economic damage turning many homes into scrap value overnight. Noise and fumes which will be experienced even in the northend and Meridian. Pilots from all over the world learning how to fly their new airplane over your house and school.

You are correct Rick, I do fear these facts.

The way to beat it is to have the EPA stop it because our air quality is often below par and similar to the LA area. Also get the FAA to mandate noise restrictive flight paths rather than the voluntary ones we have now. And vote out the Mayor for counting the money he would win without concern for the money lost to property values on the individual.

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