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	Comments on: Boise Budget Woes Worsen, Mayor Seeks Extra $$ For Unions	</title>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/07/23/boise-budget-woes-worsen-mayor-seeks-extra-for-unions/#comment-34593</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 05:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: shdizzle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shdizzle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Instead of trying to decide whether the city should contract with the county or the county with the city for LE services, why don&#039;t you just go metro and combine them into one department like Las Vegas. Highly successful and more efficient. I agree wit the editor, the sheriff is the top cop in the county. Boise cities officers technically do receive more training hours per year than County coppers but that doesn&#039;t make em better. I&#039;ve seen much more professional behavior from the county coppers than the city boys. City Coppers seem to have big egos and a superiority complex. I think most of that came from an influx of LAPD guys years ago. Very anti community policing attitudes and it shows. Take a lesson from Rainey Boise, he&#039;s more in touch with the community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of trying to decide whether the city should contract with the county or the county with the city for LE services, why don&#8217;t you just go metro and combine them into one department like Las Vegas. Highly successful and more efficient. I agree wit the editor, the sheriff is the top cop in the county. Boise cities officers technically do receive more training hours per year than County coppers but that doesn&#8217;t make em better. I&#8217;ve seen much more professional behavior from the county coppers than the city boys. City Coppers seem to have big egos and a superiority complex. I think most of that came from an influx of LAPD guys years ago. Very anti community policing attitudes and it shows. Take a lesson from Rainey Boise, he&#8217;s more in touch with the community.</p>
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		By: Ronin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[L.W.-
first let me say that I am having a hard time believing that someone would willingly admit to being a conservative, and also try to state that this is a &quot;liberal city&quot;, both statements I find dubious. This state is as about as conservative as they come, there are other out there to be worse, such as Texas, Tennessee and Utah, but this state still ranks up there in the top ten states to have the most oppressive government, also a person who claims to be “conservative” could not possibly be both conservative and human in this day and age, we as a people have moved into an era that welcomes change and growth, and those to claim to stand against growth and change, stand against the fellow humans.
Second I disagree with your lack of emotion in such a topic as this, if anything the people need to be MORE angry, and more aggressive, this is the only way that the debacle of an ultra-conservative government will listen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L.W.-<br />
first let me say that I am having a hard time believing that someone would willingly admit to being a conservative, and also try to state that this is a &#8220;liberal city&#8221;, both statements I find dubious. This state is as about as conservative as they come, there are other out there to be worse, such as Texas, Tennessee and Utah, but this state still ranks up there in the top ten states to have the most oppressive government, also a person who claims to be “conservative” could not possibly be both conservative and human in this day and age, we as a people have moved into an era that welcomes change and growth, and those to claim to stand against growth and change, stand against the fellow humans.<br />
Second I disagree with your lack of emotion in such a topic as this, if anything the people need to be MORE angry, and more aggressive, this is the only way that the debacle of an ultra-conservative government will listen.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LJ: PS, as was just demonstrated by Idaho Power when they built a power plant in one year... big things which are needed can be built quickly.  An overbuilt airport in disuse is hugely expensive to have hanging around.  Kinda like empty retail, office, and housing space... or vacant lots.  Yet developers will somehow convince government to expand the empire even when it is known there is no end use market for it.   The expansion will just be yet another burden on the taxpayer.  My personal favorite at the moment in Boise is how you guys are trying to figure out how to taxpayer fund a free stadium for a professional baseball team.  Is the real motive the profits of those who get to build it?  Because it does not pencil out for the taxpayer either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJ: PS, as was just demonstrated by Idaho Power when they built a power plant in one year&#8230; big things which are needed can be built quickly.  An overbuilt airport in disuse is hugely expensive to have hanging around.  Kinda like empty retail, office, and housing space&#8230; or vacant lots.  Yet developers will somehow convince government to expand the empire even when it is known there is no end use market for it.   The expansion will just be yet another burden on the taxpayer.  My personal favorite at the moment in Boise is how you guys are trying to figure out how to taxpayer fund a free stadium for a professional baseball team.  Is the real motive the profits of those who get to build it?  Because it does not pencil out for the taxpayer either.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/07/23/boise-budget-woes-worsen-mayor-seeks-extra-for-unions/#comment-33835</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LJ: Sharpen your pencil. $$ didn&#039;t pencil out, and will not until the spending is cut. This is not Cali or NY. No more big rich jobs and companies to tax around here... they left town. 

My cost cutting ideas are valid and being fulfilled all over the country. I have no apology if they are sacrilegious to a lifetime big spender. Whacking retirements is a very popular and effective cost reduction. You will hear more things in the future that you don&#039;t like, and from a large group of people... get used to it. Even the norenders will turn.

The new vehicles are not base models, thus it was not done like a business fleet. It was done as a green show. Those big diesel trucks do not get good mileage, but they can burn biofuel. They pollute many times the gas engines. Empty 2X airport is from pipe dream that crashed. &quot;If we build it they will come&quot; was some stupid idea about building an airfreight sorting facility here... 500 miles from nowhere in flyover country, when there is already three in the western region.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJ: Sharpen your pencil. $$ didn&#8217;t pencil out, and will not until the spending is cut. This is not Cali or NY. No more big rich jobs and companies to tax around here&#8230; they left town. </p>
<p>My cost cutting ideas are valid and being fulfilled all over the country. I have no apology if they are sacrilegious to a lifetime big spender. Whacking retirements is a very popular and effective cost reduction. You will hear more things in the future that you don&#8217;t like, and from a large group of people&#8230; get used to it. Even the norenders will turn.</p>
<p>The new vehicles are not base models, thus it was not done like a business fleet. It was done as a green show. Those big diesel trucks do not get good mileage, but they can burn biofuel. They pollute many times the gas engines. Empty 2X airport is from pipe dream that crashed. &#8220;If we build it they will come&#8221; was some stupid idea about building an airfreight sorting facility here&#8230; 500 miles from nowhere in flyover country, when there is already three in the western region.</p>
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		By: Lawrence Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawrence Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As conservatives in a liberal city, we need to be smarter. We need to be quiker. We need to work together. Being angry about a budget is ok, but think it through before we post. We can get behind good ideas, but its hard to find them amongst shots in the dark.

Your Friend L.W.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As conservatives in a liberal city, we need to be smarter. We need to be quiker. We need to work together. Being angry about a budget is ok, but think it through before we post. We can get behind good ideas, but its hard to find them amongst shots in the dark.</p>
<p>Your Friend L.W.</p>
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		By: Lawrence Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawrence Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zippo really? New city vehicles are kind of necessary right? new Vehicles polute less, save the city on gas, dont cost time and money to maintain. I think most business&#039;s would agree that new vehicles are a cost effective way to do business. This is not where we save money. Yes its shiny on the surface but it pencils out.

The Fancy airport being empty is not a sign of the city wasting taxpayer dollars. This is a recession. less people fly. When the economy comes back, Boise needs to have an infastructure in place to handle growth and culture.
Money well spent I think.

Bonified arguments will be heard. These will not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zippo really? New city vehicles are kind of necessary right? new Vehicles polute less, save the city on gas, dont cost time and money to maintain. I think most business&#8217;s would agree that new vehicles are a cost effective way to do business. This is not where we save money. Yes its shiny on the surface but it pencils out.</p>
<p>The Fancy airport being empty is not a sign of the city wasting taxpayer dollars. This is a recession. less people fly. When the economy comes back, Boise needs to have an infastructure in place to handle growth and culture.<br />
Money well spent I think.</p>
<p>Bonified arguments will be heard. These will not.</p>
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		By: DOC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 06:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a question to the editor. Why hasnt their been any reporting on the Eagle and Star Fire Joint powers agreement? Then a once commissoner of EFPD hiring the New EFD Chief then leaving his post and quiting his job at Boise Fire to get hired at Eagle by the New Chief? Sounds kinda wierd dont it. Friends doing friends favors with public money.

EDITOR NOTE--The easy answer is &quot;what&#039;s new?&quot;  Former BFD chief is now chief of Whitney and BFD contracts to cover Whitney and pay firefighters.  His replacement left BFD and is commish at North Ada County Fire and Rescue along with the former #2 at Ada EMS.  BFD contracts with NACFR as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question to the editor. Why hasnt their been any reporting on the Eagle and Star Fire Joint powers agreement? Then a once commissoner of EFPD hiring the New EFD Chief then leaving his post and quiting his job at Boise Fire to get hired at Eagle by the New Chief? Sounds kinda wierd dont it. Friends doing friends favors with public money.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The easy answer is &#8220;what&#8217;s new?&#8221;  Former BFD chief is now chief of Whitney and BFD contracts to cover Whitney and pay firefighters.  His replacement left BFD and is commish at North Ada County Fire and Rescue along with the former #2 at Ada EMS.  BFD contracts with NACFR as well.</p>
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		By: OK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 00:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, agreed the Sheriff does a good job and they run the jail for all too. Don&#039;t think we need a county fire department. We are lucky to have NIFCI right here and some great volunteers. Just because we have some rotten eggs in the mix doesn&#039;t mean we need to get rid of the rest. Just sayin&#039; ... tired of certain politicians. And the Mayor isn&#039;t one of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, agreed the Sheriff does a good job and they run the jail for all too. Don&#8217;t think we need a county fire department. We are lucky to have NIFCI right here and some great volunteers. Just because we have some rotten eggs in the mix doesn&#8217;t mean we need to get rid of the rest. Just sayin&#8217; &#8230; tired of certain politicians. And the Mayor isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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