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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/11/23/monkey-business-trumps-sexual-assault-when-it-comes-to-outrage/#comment-36703</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 02:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Editor.  I am wrong in stimulating ways... effective for bringing forth more facts.  I think Boise is on track to go bust because the big industrial engines are sputtering or dead.  Sevice jobs only play with the money for a few years before the lights go out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Editor.  I am wrong in stimulating ways&#8230; effective for bringing forth more facts.  I think Boise is on track to go bust because the big industrial engines are sputtering or dead.  Sevice jobs only play with the money for a few years before the lights go out.</p>
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		By: BigPic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/11/23/monkey-business-trumps-sexual-assault-when-it-comes-to-outrage/#comment-36680</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@mc, aren&#039;t those reported rapes? How many are found to be false? So, your solve rate is probably higher if based on the amount of rapes found to be factual and amount solved then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mc, aren&#8217;t those reported rapes? How many are found to be false? So, your solve rate is probably higher if based on the amount of rapes found to be factual and amount solved then.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/11/23/monkey-business-trumps-sexual-assault-when-it-comes-to-outrage/#comment-36656</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 03:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@mc:  Also, what would you do different in Boise?  How will you pay for it?

BTW:  Many cities are going broke in part because of the overly costly police and fire.  Just look at the list of bankrupted US cities.  We will not tax our way out of this one.

EDITOR NOTE--How wrong you can be Zip!  Boise has raised the levy 6.5% for 2012 over 2011.  Coppers and firefighters also got one time bonuses because they have been so good to work with.  More to come on this topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_9,_Title_11,_United_States_Code

Pssst:  check out the one for harrisberg pa.  Something about a trash burner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mc:  Also, what would you do different in Boise?  How will you pay for it?</p>
<p>BTW:  Many cities are going broke in part because of the overly costly police and fire.  Just look at the list of bankrupted US cities.  We will not tax our way out of this one.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;How wrong you can be Zip!  Boise has raised the levy 6.5% for 2012 over 2011.  Coppers and firefighters also got one time bonuses because they have been so good to work with.  More to come on this topic.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_9,_Title_11,_United_States_Code" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_9,_Title_11,_United_States_Code</a></p>
<p>Pssst:  check out the one for harrisberg pa.  Something about a trash burner.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/11/23/monkey-business-trumps-sexual-assault-when-it-comes-to-outrage/#comment-36639</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@mc:  You seem to know a lot about police work so I&#039;m asking about the darker side of it.  You used the words &quot;immense pressure&quot; like it will improve things here, but I know this leads poor quality and often law breaking in every other types of work.  We already know that cops have lots more social problems and are often seen speeding etc.  It is not a reach to wonder what else happens.  And we can read and view about what else happens all the time.  We need police, no doubt about that.  I&#039;m just happy we have a fairly clean police department that shows respect to the typical citizen.  Some of these places you mention with better solve stats do not have as clean of department and I don&#039;t want that model brought in here.  Also the elected prosecutors have generated many reports and books about doing whatever is needed to convict.  A whole new industry has developed from these over-zealous prosecutions of the wrong person.

In my view the entire system has the wrong motivations and therefore is very expensive while not accomplishing the desired outcome.  You seem to think cleared cases is the holy grail.  No it is not!

I will not refute your stats and have told my female friends and relatives of the dangers of Boise for many years so I know you are not wrong.  I&#039;m looking for a credible source of these stats.  I just could not figure the figures you posted because the format.  If you can post an address to the website or something that would be helpful.  

The high number/low solve rate may be because of the nearby campus demographic and may be similar to other in-the-city college towns.  So be sure you compare apples to apples.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mc:  You seem to know a lot about police work so I&#8217;m asking about the darker side of it.  You used the words &#8220;immense pressure&#8221; like it will improve things here, but I know this leads poor quality and often law breaking in every other types of work.  We already know that cops have lots more social problems and are often seen speeding etc.  It is not a reach to wonder what else happens.  And we can read and view about what else happens all the time.  We need police, no doubt about that.  I&#8217;m just happy we have a fairly clean police department that shows respect to the typical citizen.  Some of these places you mention with better solve stats do not have as clean of department and I don&#8217;t want that model brought in here.  Also the elected prosecutors have generated many reports and books about doing whatever is needed to convict.  A whole new industry has developed from these over-zealous prosecutions of the wrong person.</p>
<p>In my view the entire system has the wrong motivations and therefore is very expensive while not accomplishing the desired outcome.  You seem to think cleared cases is the holy grail.  No it is not!</p>
<p>I will not refute your stats and have told my female friends and relatives of the dangers of Boise for many years so I know you are not wrong.  I&#8217;m looking for a credible source of these stats.  I just could not figure the figures you posted because the format.  If you can post an address to the website or something that would be helpful.  </p>
<p>The high number/low solve rate may be because of the nearby campus demographic and may be similar to other in-the-city college towns.  So be sure you compare apples to apples.</p>
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		By: modern columbo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/11/23/monkey-business-trumps-sexual-assault-when-it-comes-to-outrage/#comment-36631</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[modern columbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zippo what is your problem with police framing people?  It is hard enough to convict guilty people at trial let alone making stuff up. We used this fancy new thing called DNA testing!  which apparently is too complicated to be used up here. Blogs are a terrible format for placing numbers.  Put it this way, Boise is one of the statistically most dangerous cities in America to be a woman.  Santa Ana California is an absolute third world crap hole city that is nearly twice the size of Boise and they have the same number of rapes.  89 cases in Boise in 2010 which works out to being a rate of 43.2 per 100,000 population.
  
What is clearance?

In the UCR Program, a law enforcement agency reports that an offense is cleared by arrest, or solved for crime reporting purposes, when three specific conditions have been met. The three conditions are that at least one person has been:

■Arrested. 
■Charged with the commission of the offense. 
■Turned over to the court for prosecution (whether following arrest, court summons, or police notice). 
In its clearance calculations, the UCR Program counts the number of offenses that are cleared, not the number of persons arrested.

So Boise PD only achieves this level in 19.2 % of their cases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zippo what is your problem with police framing people?  It is hard enough to convict guilty people at trial let alone making stuff up. We used this fancy new thing called DNA testing!  which apparently is too complicated to be used up here. Blogs are a terrible format for placing numbers.  Put it this way, Boise is one of the statistically most dangerous cities in America to be a woman.  Santa Ana California is an absolute third world crap hole city that is nearly twice the size of Boise and they have the same number of rapes.  89 cases in Boise in 2010 which works out to being a rate of 43.2 per 100,000 population.</p>
<p>What is clearance?</p>
<p>In the UCR Program, a law enforcement agency reports that an offense is cleared by arrest, or solved for crime reporting purposes, when three specific conditions have been met. The three conditions are that at least one person has been:</p>
<p>■Arrested.<br />
■Charged with the commission of the offense.<br />
■Turned over to the court for prosecution (whether following arrest, court summons, or police notice).<br />
In its clearance calculations, the UCR Program counts the number of offenses that are cleared, not the number of persons arrested.</p>
<p>So Boise PD only achieves this level in 19.2 % of their cases.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/11/23/monkey-business-trumps-sexual-assault-when-it-comes-to-outrage/#comment-36619</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You posted some statistics.  But did not answer all the questions.  Sounds like &quot;clearing&quot; a crime is not the same as solving it.  Do people ever get framed just to clear a crime due to the immense pressure you mentioned?  I&#039;ve heard so much about manipulation and suppression of evidence over the years.

What is this &quot;89 43.2/100K&quot;  Is that 8943.2 ??  Please clear up the format issue if that what it is and can you provide ref to source documents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You posted some statistics.  But did not answer all the questions.  Sounds like &#8220;clearing&#8221; a crime is not the same as solving it.  Do people ever get framed just to clear a crime due to the immense pressure you mentioned?  I&#8217;ve heard so much about manipulation and suppression of evidence over the years.</p>
<p>What is this &#8220;89 43.2/100K&#8221;  Is that 8943.2 ??  Please clear up the format issue if that what it is and can you provide ref to source documents.</p>
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		By: modern columbo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/11/23/monkey-business-trumps-sexual-assault-when-it-comes-to-outrage/#comment-36604</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[modern columbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Without boring anybody with mind numbing statistics I will provide you a synopsis of my findings.  All data is from 2010.
Statistics are in offenses per 100K population  
Seattle Washington Population 605,000.  Rape: 96  15.5/100K
       Robbery: 1429  230.4/100K
Portland Oregon population 583,000
Rape:  230  40.8/100K
Robbery:  1005  178.1/100k

Santa Ana California population 325,000
Rape:  88  25.9/100K
Robbery:  719  211.3/100K

Boise Idaho population 205,000
Rape:  89  43.2/100K
Robbery:  58  28.2/100K

The national average for cities of 100,000 to 250,000 population for rape is 33.1/100K and Robbery 170/100K.  The average solve rate for Rape is 52% and Robbery 30%.

The 5 year average solve rate for Boise for Rape is 19.1% and Robbery 24%.  
Both statistics well below national averages and should be points of concern for all residents.  Clearance of these crimes does not always indicate an arrest.  It is cleared when a suspect is named, the case is submitted to the prosecutor.  In the past 5 years Boise has had over 500 reported foricible rapes with less than 100 cleared.  That leaves 400 rapists free in just 5 years. 
Using statistics can sometimes be a bit difficult, but in this case they are quite consistant across the board and deserve some inquiry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without boring anybody with mind numbing statistics I will provide you a synopsis of my findings.  All data is from 2010.<br />
Statistics are in offenses per 100K population<br />
Seattle Washington Population 605,000.  Rape: 96  15.5/100K<br />
       Robbery: 1429  230.4/100K<br />
Portland Oregon population 583,000<br />
Rape:  230  40.8/100K<br />
Robbery:  1005  178.1/100k</p>
<p>Santa Ana California population 325,000<br />
Rape:  88  25.9/100K<br />
Robbery:  719  211.3/100K</p>
<p>Boise Idaho population 205,000<br />
Rape:  89  43.2/100K<br />
Robbery:  58  28.2/100K</p>
<p>The national average for cities of 100,000 to 250,000 population for rape is 33.1/100K and Robbery 170/100K.  The average solve rate for Rape is 52% and Robbery 30%.</p>
<p>The 5 year average solve rate for Boise for Rape is 19.1% and Robbery 24%.<br />
Both statistics well below national averages and should be points of concern for all residents.  Clearance of these crimes does not always indicate an arrest.  It is cleared when a suspect is named, the case is submitted to the prosecutor.  In the past 5 years Boise has had over 500 reported foricible rapes with less than 100 cleared.  That leaves 400 rapists free in just 5 years.<br />
Using statistics can sometimes be a bit difficult, but in this case they are quite consistant across the board and deserve some inquiry.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How do we know the kid wasn&#039;t trying to rape the monkey?   I totally agree with M. Flinn. Idaho tolerates violence and rape. Many of the rape cases are never reported because of the police treatment of the victim.
Same reason the hookers are prosecuted but not the customer.  Idaho has a serious suicide rate. Makes one wonder why.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we know the kid wasn&#8217;t trying to rape the monkey?   I totally agree with M. Flinn. Idaho tolerates violence and rape. Many of the rape cases are never reported because of the police treatment of the victim.<br />
Same reason the hookers are prosecuted but not the customer.  Idaho has a serious suicide rate. Makes one wonder why.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@modern columbo:  That&#039;s cuz the Boise rob rate is so low.  

Question? Did that &quot;immense pressure&quot; ever lead to a frame job on someone who it might have could have been? But was not.

Question? What is the rape solve rate down in LA? or in Seattle? What would you change in little Boise to make it better?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@modern columbo:  That&#8217;s cuz the Boise rob rate is so low.  </p>
<p>Question? Did that &#8220;immense pressure&#8221; ever lead to a frame job on someone who it might have could have been? But was not.</p>
<p>Question? What is the rape solve rate down in LA? or in Seattle? What would you change in little Boise to make it better?</p>
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		By: Flyhead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flyhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All the news, all the time and now we have a dead monkey that will dominate the news until the drugged up drunk kid goes to prison for life over this.

Here&#039;s a quick solution to all this.. the kid buys the zoo a new monkey and serves some time cleaning up POO in the monkey cages.

Quick note to Columbo.. it&#039;s hard for realatives to rat one another out  on the &quot;unsolved rapes&quot; here in Idaho.  Sometimes the family trees are a straight line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the news, all the time and now we have a dead monkey that will dominate the news until the drugged up drunk kid goes to prison for life over this.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quick solution to all this.. the kid buys the zoo a new monkey and serves some time cleaning up POO in the monkey cages.</p>
<p>Quick note to Columbo.. it&#8217;s hard for realatives to rat one another out  on the &#8220;unsolved rapes&#8221; here in Idaho.  Sometimes the family trees are a straight line.</p>
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