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		By: JJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LJ, thanks for your comment, I have been searching for reasons and meaning, and your comment that not all evil can be explained helps put it into perspective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJ, thanks for your comment, I have been searching for reasons and meaning, and your comment that not all evil can be explained helps put it into perspective.</p>
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		By: Jimmers		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/12/16/media-games-internet-shape-our-violent-views/#comment-38055</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 03:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Got to agree with erico49.  I&#039;ve read it a number of times and I don&#039;t see hunting there. Not even implied. Lets see, it does say Militia, and Security of a Free State, the right to hear Arms shall not be infringed.  Nope, no hunting there.  So lets go back to the day when this was written.  The Military carried Flintlocks.  The general public carried... Flintlocks. Fastforward a hundred years, the Military carried repeating rifles and the public carried.... repeating rifles. Fast forward a hundred years, the Military carries fully automatic rifles as their basic defense.  the general public not so much. Limited to semi-auto unless you are willing to pay and go through a lot of red tape.  Smells of infringement to me.  Some states have limited to 3 rounds maximum carry.  Stinks of Infringment to me.  Gun control is not the answer. Think about it.  What if every some brainless schmuck gets stoned out of his head and runs over 6 people.  State say&#039;s, you gotta blow into a breathilizer from this point forward before your car will start.  But not just the schmuck.  Everybody has to have this installed and follow the process.  Does that sound like a viable solution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got to agree with erico49.  I&#8217;ve read it a number of times and I don&#8217;t see hunting there. Not even implied. Lets see, it does say Militia, and Security of a Free State, the right to hear Arms shall not be infringed.  Nope, no hunting there.  So lets go back to the day when this was written.  The Military carried Flintlocks.  The general public carried&#8230; Flintlocks. Fastforward a hundred years, the Military carried repeating rifles and the public carried&#8230;. repeating rifles. Fast forward a hundred years, the Military carries fully automatic rifles as their basic defense.  the general public not so much. Limited to semi-auto unless you are willing to pay and go through a lot of red tape.  Smells of infringement to me.  Some states have limited to 3 rounds maximum carry.  Stinks of Infringment to me.  Gun control is not the answer. Think about it.  What if every some brainless schmuck gets stoned out of his head and runs over 6 people.  State say&#8217;s, you gotta blow into a breathilizer from this point forward before your car will start.  But not just the schmuck.  Everybody has to have this installed and follow the process.  Does that sound like a viable solution.</p>
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		By: erico49		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The 2nd amendment doesn&#039;t say anything about hunting.]]></description>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/12/16/media-games-internet-shape-our-violent-views/#comment-38014</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.tactical-life.com/online/products/srm-arms-1216-semi-auto-shotgun/
 clearly we need this for duck hunting. Made in Idaho to.]]></description>
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 clearly we need this for duck hunting. Made in Idaho to.</p>
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		By: Ronin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[True evil is done by those who think they are doing good.]]></description>
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		By: LJ		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2012/12/16/media-games-internet-shape-our-violent-views/#comment-37952</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Evil can&#039;t always be explained.  Which is part of the problem in these cases.  People naturally try to find the source of the problem to fix it.  No matter what you do an evil person will find a way to hurt people.

The problem with mental health is the subjective nature of the diagnosis.  Maybe there is a way around it, but I don&#039;t know.  We see this in courts all the time.  One doctor says they are competent, the defense can then pay another doctor to say the opposite.  Which one is right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evil can&#8217;t always be explained.  Which is part of the problem in these cases.  People naturally try to find the source of the problem to fix it.  No matter what you do an evil person will find a way to hurt people.</p>
<p>The problem with mental health is the subjective nature of the diagnosis.  Maybe there is a way around it, but I don&#8217;t know.  We see this in courts all the time.  One doctor says they are competent, the defense can then pay another doctor to say the opposite.  Which one is right?</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@FH:  The large government run mental hospital institutions were shuttered because of the horrific human rights abuses, including medical experiments.  The few which remain open still have these problems from time to time.  As you mention, they were also money sucking dinosaurs.

Today most people in the regular prison system have a mental illness issue at the foundation of their problems.  So many of the people who would have gone to the MH are in the prison now.  Had this kid lived a few more years without mommy&#039;s protection, he&#039;d likely have been arrested for something and started his prison career too.

This particular mass killing event happened because Mom was as much a nut as son and didn&#039;t control her guns very well, and didn&#039;t see the danger either.  I think over the coming months we will discover how several people considered this event a possibility but did not act.  Even still, how much of your civil rights are you willing to give up?  Very slippery slope.  Look at how anti-terror laws have become so omni-intrusive and huge expensive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FH:  The large government run mental hospital institutions were shuttered because of the horrific human rights abuses, including medical experiments.  The few which remain open still have these problems from time to time.  As you mention, they were also money sucking dinosaurs.</p>
<p>Today most people in the regular prison system have a mental illness issue at the foundation of their problems.  So many of the people who would have gone to the MH are in the prison now.  Had this kid lived a few more years without mommy&#8217;s protection, he&#8217;d likely have been arrested for something and started his prison career too.</p>
<p>This particular mass killing event happened because Mom was as much a nut as son and didn&#8217;t control her guns very well, and didn&#8217;t see the danger either.  I think over the coming months we will discover how several people considered this event a possibility but did not act.  Even still, how much of your civil rights are you willing to give up?  Very slippery slope.  Look at how anti-terror laws have become so omni-intrusive and huge expensive.</p>
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		By: Flyhead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flyhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have reached the saturation point with the media scraming for more gun control. I would offer that we need more control of people with mental issues.

I am old encough to remember when President Reagan in his efforts to cut the federal budget closed down a large number of mental institutions and simply turned these people out on the streets. I would also submit that when this happened it created an up-tick in the shootings we see today. 

The assanation of President Kennedy created a tipping point for the end of guns sent via mail order.  You could get a gun for as little as $10 and a coupon from a comic book, Sport Afield, or other magazine advertisement. 

President Reagan was the victim of a mentally unstable person who obtained a gun.  

I would submit it is not the guns causing the problems but the closure of mental facilities and lack of options for dealing with mentally unstable people causing all manner of random killings with guns. I can think of not instance that the assaults on school kids, political figures and most other mass killings with guns weren&#039;t well thought out but the people with mental issues.  We need to rethink putting these folks in a safe environment where they can be monitored and live in a safe secure environment.  

I would also submit for your consideration just how many gun related killings like what we have seen happened prior to 1986 and the closure of mental hospitals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have reached the saturation point with the media scraming for more gun control. I would offer that we need more control of people with mental issues.</p>
<p>I am old encough to remember when President Reagan in his efforts to cut the federal budget closed down a large number of mental institutions and simply turned these people out on the streets. I would also submit that when this happened it created an up-tick in the shootings we see today. </p>
<p>The assanation of President Kennedy created a tipping point for the end of guns sent via mail order.  You could get a gun for as little as $10 and a coupon from a comic book, Sport Afield, or other magazine advertisement. </p>
<p>President Reagan was the victim of a mentally unstable person who obtained a gun.  </p>
<p>I would submit it is not the guns causing the problems but the closure of mental facilities and lack of options for dealing with mentally unstable people causing all manner of random killings with guns. I can think of not instance that the assaults on school kids, political figures and most other mass killings with guns weren&#8217;t well thought out but the people with mental issues.  We need to rethink putting these folks in a safe environment where they can be monitored and live in a safe secure environment.  </p>
<p>I would also submit for your consideration just how many gun related killings like what we have seen happened prior to 1986 and the closure of mental hospitals.</p>
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		By: Ronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There may be a correlation between the violent video games and the mass killings, but that does not dictate CAUSATION.  There are many factors involved that force a developing mind to become dysfunctional, deviant, and destructive.  If a person is capable of committing such acts, then their whole environment is to be scrutinized, such as what was their home life like?  How they were able to obtain weapons that are designed to kill nothing other than humans? What was their connection (or lack of connection) to a social support system, and then the availability for aggressive behavior, (sports video games, or a desire to be a cop…).  But to effectively diagnose anyone with a mental illness you have to wait until the brain is fully developed, which can take up into the late twenties. This brings to question what type of society are WE creating that would facilitate such actions from a person whose brain is not fully developed, or capable of being developed?  This is indirectly the fault of all people, as we are all in one way or another supporting the degradation of society, by watching violent movies, supporting the police, attacking without compassion anyone who we disagree with, and permanently destroying the lives of those we think “deserve it”.  We created a society of “do as I say, but not as I do” then get upset and question those who DO act as we do, (or more accurately do as they THINK we do).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may be a correlation between the violent video games and the mass killings, but that does not dictate CAUSATION.  There are many factors involved that force a developing mind to become dysfunctional, deviant, and destructive.  If a person is capable of committing such acts, then their whole environment is to be scrutinized, such as what was their home life like?  How they were able to obtain weapons that are designed to kill nothing other than humans? What was their connection (or lack of connection) to a social support system, and then the availability for aggressive behavior, (sports video games, or a desire to be a cop…).  But to effectively diagnose anyone with a mental illness you have to wait until the brain is fully developed, which can take up into the late twenties. This brings to question what type of society are WE creating that would facilitate such actions from a person whose brain is not fully developed, or capable of being developed?  This is indirectly the fault of all people, as we are all in one way or another supporting the degradation of society, by watching violent movies, supporting the police, attacking without compassion anyone who we disagree with, and permanently destroying the lives of those we think “deserve it”.  We created a society of “do as I say, but not as I do” then get upset and question those who DO act as we do, (or more accurately do as they THINK we do).</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I second what eric049 said.  Most &quot;comment boards&quot; are painful and discouraging to read, if the topic is at all controversial, but the opinions here are thougtful and sincere.  (Most comment boards offer ample evidence that our level of civility has deteriorated over a generation or two.  I worry that we&#039;ve lost our way.)

I cried on Friday, for the first time in years.  I have a granddaughter that will be 6 next month - that baby is truly the light of my life!  The notion that a human being could aim a rifle at innocent little children and start pulling the trigger - that is far beyond horrifying!  Jesus said it well - it would be better to tie a millstone around the perp&#039;s neck, and throw him in deep water.

I own several guns.  I keep them well-secured.  If I thought that giving up my guns would prevent such a tragedy from ever happening again, I&#039;d surrender them in a heartbeat!  But the reality is, having the law-abiding citizens turn in their guns would have negligible impact on criminal use of firearms... and it might have the opposite effect.

If I thought that outlawing violent video games or movies would prevent such a tragedy, I&#039;d be on board!  But again... the vast majority of people are able to process fantasy and reality, and differentiate between the two.

How do we prevent deeply-disturbed individuals from harming innocents?  I don&#039;t think we know.  If we did, we wouldn&#039;t be discussing it, we&#039;d be doing it.

My heart is sick.  I hope we&#039;re not damaged beyond repair.  God, PLEASE bless America!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second what eric049 said.  Most &#8220;comment boards&#8221; are painful and discouraging to read, if the topic is at all controversial, but the opinions here are thougtful and sincere.  (Most comment boards offer ample evidence that our level of civility has deteriorated over a generation or two.  I worry that we&#8217;ve lost our way.)</p>
<p>I cried on Friday, for the first time in years.  I have a granddaughter that will be 6 next month &#8211; that baby is truly the light of my life!  The notion that a human being could aim a rifle at innocent little children and start pulling the trigger &#8211; that is far beyond horrifying!  Jesus said it well &#8211; it would be better to tie a millstone around the perp&#8217;s neck, and throw him in deep water.</p>
<p>I own several guns.  I keep them well-secured.  If I thought that giving up my guns would prevent such a tragedy from ever happening again, I&#8217;d surrender them in a heartbeat!  But the reality is, having the law-abiding citizens turn in their guns would have negligible impact on criminal use of firearms&#8230; and it might have the opposite effect.</p>
<p>If I thought that outlawing violent video games or movies would prevent such a tragedy, I&#8217;d be on board!  But again&#8230; the vast majority of people are able to process fantasy and reality, and differentiate between the two.</p>
<p>How do we prevent deeply-disturbed individuals from harming innocents?  I don&#8217;t think we know.  If we did, we wouldn&#8217;t be discussing it, we&#8217;d be doing it.</p>
<p>My heart is sick.  I hope we&#8217;re not damaged beyond repair.  God, PLEASE bless America!</p>
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