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		By: tom		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/04/29/trolley-folly-continues-with-bigger-price-tag/#comment-54363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 23:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And there in lies the rub.... &quot;If you don&#039;t agree with me...leave&quot;. Most of these old hats don&#039;t want any change... hell I&#039;m one of&#039;em... the difference is some understand it is going to happen and have decided to deal with the change... others think if they kick and cry long enough they can stave off the inevitable. I long for the days when Eagle road was 1 lane gravel each way and didn&#039;t cross the highway.. Eagle it&#039;s self was a nice little town in the country back then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there in lies the rub&#8230;. &#8220;If you don&#8217;t agree with me&#8230;leave&#8221;. Most of these old hats don&#8217;t want any change&#8230; hell I&#8217;m one of&#8217;em&#8230; the difference is some understand it is going to happen and have decided to deal with the change&#8230; others think if they kick and cry long enough they can stave off the inevitable. I long for the days when Eagle road was 1 lane gravel each way and didn&#8217;t cross the highway.. Eagle it&#8217;s self was a nice little town in the country back then.</p>
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		By: Vet		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/04/29/trolley-folly-continues-with-bigger-price-tag/#comment-54322</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 12:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To  &quot;New to Boise&quot;.....based on your comments may I make a suggestion...might be best to move back to Portland. Your opinion that there are &quot;so many&quot; who &quot;do nothing&quot; because they don&#039;t support mass transit is evidence that you are from somewhere else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To  &#8220;New to Boise&#8221;&#8230;..based on your comments may I make a suggestion&#8230;might be best to move back to Portland. Your opinion that there are &#8220;so many&#8221; who &#8220;do nothing&#8221; because they don&#8217;t support mass transit is evidence that you are from somewhere else.</p>
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		By: New to Boise		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/04/29/trolley-folly-continues-with-bigger-price-tag/#comment-54214</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New to Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 22:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I cannot argue over the merits of &quot;thug transport,&quot; but I have lived in Portland, and can tell you that I have ridden public transportation all over town with groceries, gifts, my iphone, etc, and felt nothing but happy for the fact that I wasn&#039;t driving, the ride was cheap, and I never had to worry about parking or gas. I have never been a victim of crime because I used public transportation. I also know that every city that I&#039;ve lived in that has had good public transit also gets a good amount of revenue (jobs, etc) from out-of-towners in the city for conventions, events, etc. As it is now, Boise cannot be one of those destinations simply because it is too hard to get around without a car. I do not know why there are so many Boise residents who do nothing but &quot;point out facts that do not support the proposal.&quot; I just wish that there were more residents who would rather just want to make it work to make the city a nicer, more livable, and prosperous area.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I cannot argue over the merits of &#8220;thug transport,&#8221; but I have lived in Portland, and can tell you that I have ridden public transportation all over town with groceries, gifts, my iphone, etc, and felt nothing but happy for the fact that I wasn&#8217;t driving, the ride was cheap, and I never had to worry about parking or gas. I have never been a victim of crime because I used public transportation. I also know that every city that I&#8217;ve lived in that has had good public transit also gets a good amount of revenue (jobs, etc) from out-of-towners in the city for conventions, events, etc. As it is now, Boise cannot be one of those destinations simply because it is too hard to get around without a car. I do not know why there are so many Boise residents who do nothing but &#8220;point out facts that do not support the proposal.&#8221; I just wish that there were more residents who would rather just want to make it work to make the city a nicer, more livable, and prosperous area.</p>
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		By: Vet		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/04/29/trolley-folly-continues-with-bigger-price-tag/#comment-54111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 23:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AS I have watched this debate over the years I have learned one thing...There is a vast difference between being negative about something and simply pointing out facts that do not support the proposal. Those who wish to see comments and facts as negative usually cannot refute the facts. 


Most, if not all those who offer comments that do not support the mayor have facts the mayor simply does not like....thus they are called negative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS I have watched this debate over the years I have learned one thing&#8230;There is a vast difference between being negative about something and simply pointing out facts that do not support the proposal. Those who wish to see comments and facts as negative usually cannot refute the facts. </p>
<p>Most, if not all those who offer comments that do not support the mayor have facts the mayor simply does not like&#8230;.thus they are called negative.</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/04/29/trolley-folly-continues-with-bigger-price-tag/#comment-54034</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 03:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Heres a stat... 2009 Boise PD .44 complaints per sworn employee. Seattle 2009 .23 per sworn employee. Guess that puts the BPD is better than everyone else fallacy to rest. Now maybe we can get back to the real question... Why is there so much negativity againt a mass transit system of some kind in the valley?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heres a stat&#8230; 2009 Boise PD .44 complaints per sworn employee. Seattle 2009 .23 per sworn employee. Guess that puts the BPD is better than everyone else fallacy to rest. Now maybe we can get back to the real question&#8230; Why is there so much negativity againt a mass transit system of some kind in the valley?</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 02:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, zippo I guess you could say I&#039;m new here.LOL My family had a little spread along the river in twin. Matter of fact if you stop on the south side of the bridge you’ll see a little sculpture of one of my realitives.LOL I too have been all over the world 20 years in the military was a reserve with a sheriffs dept while I was in so I&#039;m sure I can match you in &quot;worldly&quot; experience.LOL The major problem with both BPD and ACSD if that a good deal of their employees are ex-cali cops. You can defend them all you want but you are wrong, I could run down their misdeeds but Dave will shut me down. As far as my comparison, I am not comparing I am simply relating what I have been told by one specific ex CCSD now probation officer. As for my personal appraisal I&#039;m sure it wouldn’t be hard to do research on complaints vs number of calls ect. As to being ineffective in my response to crime and public transit, I guess you could say it was ineffective since I choose to ignore it since it is ludicrous. I have ridden public transit in London, Cairo, NY, DC, SF, Seattle, Chicago.... I could go on... and have never worried about crime. Besides if ACSD and BPD are as good as you say there will be no problems. Your contradictions seem to make both sides of your argument untenable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, zippo I guess you could say I&#8217;m new here.LOL My family had a little spread along the river in twin. Matter of fact if you stop on the south side of the bridge you’ll see a little sculpture of one of my realitives.LOL I too have been all over the world 20 years in the military was a reserve with a sheriffs dept while I was in so I&#8217;m sure I can match you in &#8220;worldly&#8221; experience.LOL The major problem with both BPD and ACSD if that a good deal of their employees are ex-cali cops. You can defend them all you want but you are wrong, I could run down their misdeeds but Dave will shut me down. As far as my comparison, I am not comparing I am simply relating what I have been told by one specific ex CCSD now probation officer. As for my personal appraisal I&#8217;m sure it wouldn’t be hard to do research on complaints vs number of calls ect. As to being ineffective in my response to crime and public transit, I guess you could say it was ineffective since I choose to ignore it since it is ludicrous. I have ridden public transit in London, Cairo, NY, DC, SF, Seattle, Chicago&#8230;. I could go on&#8230; and have never worried about crime. Besides if ACSD and BPD are as good as you say there will be no problems. Your contradictions seem to make both sides of your argument untenable.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/04/29/trolley-folly-continues-with-bigger-price-tag/#comment-54015</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 21:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom, LOL.  You are new here??  Are you upset with the slow speed limits and 20 minute traffic delays too.  LOL.

I&#039;ve been all over the nation and world.  BPD is very good as is the ACS.  Both very responsive and effective.  Room for improvement... always.  BTW what PD are you comparing to?  Find me a better department? IdeHOE Statesman is for under my leaking Asian car... no other use for it since the birds moved out.

Furthermore, you tried ineffectively avoided the crime question... which is backed by the facts.  Public transit is thug transit.

(I will be out of range again for several more weeks my long lost guardian friends.  I&#039;d love to post but the local chieftians screens the internet... ttfn)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, LOL.  You are new here??  Are you upset with the slow speed limits and 20 minute traffic delays too.  LOL.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been all over the nation and world.  BPD is very good as is the ACS.  Both very responsive and effective.  Room for improvement&#8230; always.  BTW what PD are you comparing to?  Find me a better department? IdeHOE Statesman is for under my leaking Asian car&#8230; no other use for it since the birds moved out.</p>
<p>Furthermore, you tried ineffectively avoided the crime question&#8230; which is backed by the facts.  Public transit is thug transit.</p>
<p>(I will be out of range again for several more weeks my long lost guardian friends.  I&#8217;d love to post but the local chieftians screens the internet&#8230; ttfn)</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/04/29/trolley-folly-continues-with-bigger-price-tag/#comment-53954</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 03:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zippo, I dont know about a very good and responsive LE. BPD doesnt even have a good rep with other PD&#039;s here in the valley and Rainey&#039;s keystone cops are a joke. I assume you would like to see those who dont drive a nice enough car, or make enough money to just go away. Do you post on the statesmans site using the name flyingreplicant? That sentence has made your whole comment moote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zippo, I dont know about a very good and responsive LE. BPD doesnt even have a good rep with other PD&#8217;s here in the valley and Rainey&#8217;s keystone cops are a joke. I assume you would like to see those who dont drive a nice enough car, or make enough money to just go away. Do you post on the statesmans site using the name flyingreplicant? That sentence has made your whole comment moote.</p>
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		By: Clang, Clang		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clang, Clang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 03:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[New, welcome to Boise.

If there is a &quot;sprawling mess&quot; here I&#039;d suggest it&#039;s the fault of the Cities in the Valley for not following their own comprehensive plans and their knee jerk reactions to every developer that comes along promising &quot;economic development.&quot;

ACHD can only react to what the Cities propose or approve.  ACHD didn&#039;t create the &quot;sprawling mess&quot;, the Cities did.  Blame them, not ACHD.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New, welcome to Boise.</p>
<p>If there is a &#8220;sprawling mess&#8221; here I&#8217;d suggest it&#8217;s the fault of the Cities in the Valley for not following their own comprehensive plans and their knee jerk reactions to every developer that comes along promising &#8220;economic development.&#8221;</p>
<p>ACHD can only react to what the Cities propose or approve.  ACHD didn&#8217;t create the &#8220;sprawling mess&#8221;, the Cities did.  Blame them, not ACHD.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 18:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[New to Boise, Others,  Have you noticed the lack of crime in Boise?  This is a result of a very good and responsive police department AND very little free transportation for the thugs nor places for thugs to hang out at.  Our current system of personal autos means ya gotta have some money and a reason to be in the city.

Dare ya to ride the Portland train system with your purse, iPhone, and Macy&#039;s bag.  And Portland is considered a safe city by many.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New to Boise, Others,  Have you noticed the lack of crime in Boise?  This is a result of a very good and responsive police department AND very little free transportation for the thugs nor places for thugs to hang out at.  Our current system of personal autos means ya gotta have some money and a reason to be in the city.</p>
<p>Dare ya to ride the Portland train system with your purse, iPhone, and Macy&#8217;s bag.  And Portland is considered a safe city by many.</p>
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