Comments on: Cop Cars: How Many How Much?

By: tom

tom — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 20:57:33 +0000

Well George it seems that others disagree with you. Not only me. Why are YOU singling me out for your wrath? This is an issue that is costing tax payers any where from $90 thousand to over $200 thousand a year in wasted money. To give a “perk” to cops.

I really do not care that they take there shiny status symbol home I just don’t want to pay for the gas and maintenance cost for the extra mileage. The rest of us have to provide our own way to work why can the “coddled” not do the same?

EDITOR NOTE–Time to move on. COMMENTS CLOSED

By: George et al x2

George et al x2 — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 19:45:59 +0000

No. There are REAL issues that need to be exposed and debated. Tom this is NOT one of them. It’s ridiculous.

By: LJ

LJ — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 19:18:30 +0000

I would like to see a study where the life span of a ‘take home car’ and a ‘fleet car’ were compared side by side. I know the studies are out there, just not sure where to find them. A fleet car will get theoretically run 24/7 or close to it. That is obviously a lot of where and tear on the vehicle. A take home car would get run a lot less. If that take home car lasts seven or eight years, VS three or four for the fleet car is it worth it?

By: FactvFiction

FactvFiction — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 18:20:44 +0000

I’m still interested in the original topic. And having seen Chief Masterson post on this forum, I will presume he has read this blog entry. So, what say you Chief Masterson? Will you do the right thing, at the right time, in the right way, for the right reason and stop needlessly wasting tax dollars? You could hire two police officers if the take-home cars weren’t being abused!

By: tom

tom — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 18:10:26 +0000

While I sometimes disagree with your choice of words I will have to say that you are spot on in the above comment. There are those who have posted here that it is simply a “hater” that is appalled by the wanton disregard of any kind of over sight of these public servants. It is apparent that many “branches” of government on the local, state and federal levels have chosen a 1700’s parliamentary approach to governing. I hope that point is not too abstract for some to follow.

Elected officials will tell you they have over sight in the voter and in fact they do, when the voter bothers to vote. LE on the other hand thumbs there collective nose at the huddled masses and tells them, we know what is best, when in actuality they very seldom have no clue.

Instances like this are evidence of the systemic problems with LE in particular and govt. in general. The misdirecting of legitimate concerns and attempts at redirecting focus IE some of the comments above about haters and such, are usually a give away that the problem is in fact deeper than it would appear.

This first step in attempting to get some transparency in LE in the area seems to be of great concern and it appears that there are those that feel it must be quashed ASAP.

As follow on questions I personally wonder what the numbers would be if the same question was asked of ACSD,NPD,CPD, GCPD,CCSD, ect.

Dave pointed out that spokesperson Hightower has a “take home car” that she pays $100 a month for I am sure that amount covers the amount of fuel she uses in getting back and forth to work and her having a car to use while at work seems reasonable but, I wonder if her need for a city owned car is justified by her having to respond to an emergency press conference in the middle of the night, something I am sure happens quite frequently. Not to pick on Mrs. Hightower I am sure her function is considered vital to the PR campaign of the dept. this is just one glairing example of what the military used to call fraud, waste, and abuse.

By: tom

tom — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 16:46:53 +0000

Is any one still interested in discussing this? Or did the attacks succeed in their designed effort to dissuade open discourse?

By: dh

dh — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:00:08 +0000

Dave, I appreciate your continued efforts to expose the on going wanton, and in many cases, the corrupt and often illegal spending of our tax monies.
That it occurs on such blatant issues as the private misuse of vehicles at the city level, (isn’t that one of the same issues that sent Brother Coles to jail?), continued frivolous waste of taxpayer dollars on a silly damn trolley almost no one wants or the apparent “gifts” (early dowry payment?) of TWO million dollars for absolutely no value received at the county level.
I understand that we have a Representative Republic but w/o any citizen oversight and no accountability or fear of punitive actions, these elected representatives/public “servant” spendthrifts are running amuck at all levels of “our” government.
Our landlords, Ada County, were paid their exorbitant, semi annual “rent” payment on our home last month. Consequently, our finances this month allow a small contribution to help defray the cost of your fine/penalty to acquire information from your Boise elected and appointed rulers. The contribution represents something many no longer understand, or care about, THE PRINCIPLE OF THE THING!

By: tom

tom — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 04:37:05 +0000

Wow…

By: George et al x2

George et al x2 — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 02:53:11 +0000

At ease stud. Take a breath. Relax. You have let so much out of your little bag of tricks it is no longer worth responding to you. You are a hater and on some agenda drive tirade against your local fuzz that it would be funny…but it’s not.

By: tom

tom — Sun, 07 Jul 2013 23:22:04 +0000

George
I am going to humor you one time and answer the concerns you raised, then I will no longer comment on anything you say that is not on the issue at hand.

1. I am not sure what crystal ball you consulted to come up with the hypothesis that “Obviously you are unemployed or you got a ticket”. I am employed thank you and I receive a military retirement. No need to thank me for my service, it would be a hollow gesture on your part. My last ticket was over 3 years ago so I am sure that does not apply either. I am not bias I just state what I see and what I see is this, the LE industry feels that they are owed some sort of reverence, which they are not, along with starting pay that is much higher than most other public servants, specifically the military.

2. If there are only five people concerned about this that is a shame but, I am sure at one point during the American Revolution there were only 5 people talking about that issue too and look how that turned out. So to say that since only a small number of people are discussing this now it is not worth the time is ludicrous. As to your point of unemployment, gangs, murders and such there is not much this small Boise forum can do to effect those issues but, there is much more that a group of concerned citizens in the valley can do to elevate this issue. Will it do much good? Probably not, the status quo will be upheld the LE industry will go on without much if any supervision and life for those few anointed individuals will remain the same. Does that mean this should not be discussed? Since it does not matter to you, you think it is irrelevant others do not. Learn that in our society your narrow view of things does not give you the right to put down others opinions it will make things easier on you.

3. Again you end with an attack toward me personally. It is sad that have no more respect for the thoughts of others than that.

I will ask again, are you a current or former member of the LE industry?