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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/08/13/cop-shooting-range-has-sordid-history/#comment-61869</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Try and build an un- paved driveway in Boise. Cynic has a point about the car transfer lot. the good thing is when it rains the water goes into the ground and not into the storm drains.

The city should have a citizen wide goathead alert to start digging now before they drop their seeds. I have seen massive GH mats all over this town. I&#039;m all for GH fines for govt&#039; , business and homeowners letting GH grow unchecked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try and build an un- paved driveway in Boise. Cynic has a point about the car transfer lot. the good thing is when it rains the water goes into the ground and not into the storm drains.</p>
<p>The city should have a citizen wide goathead alert to start digging now before they drop their seeds. I have seen massive GH mats all over this town. I&#8217;m all for GH fines for govt&#8217; , business and homeowners letting GH grow unchecked.</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/08/13/cop-shooting-range-has-sordid-history/#comment-61779</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A little off topic here, but the statement that the lot at 27th and Fairview is vacant is not entirely accurate. It&#039;s being used as a parking lot, by whom I don&#039;t know. It appears St Lukes has made some agreement with a rental car company and they store their cars there. Sometimes there are many cars and then they disappear but it&#039;s almost never entirely vacant.

So, here&#039;s the rub, it&#039;s a violation of city code to use unpaved ground as permanent parking. Maybe the BoiseGuardian could look into this? Oh, and then there&#039;s the goathead problem there and at the city&#039;s 30th and Main property.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little off topic here, but the statement that the lot at 27th and Fairview is vacant is not entirely accurate. It&#8217;s being used as a parking lot, by whom I don&#8217;t know. It appears St Lukes has made some agreement with a rental car company and they store their cars there. Sometimes there are many cars and then they disappear but it&#8217;s almost never entirely vacant.</p>
<p>So, here&#8217;s the rub, it&#8217;s a violation of city code to use unpaved ground as permanent parking. Maybe the BoiseGuardian could look into this? Oh, and then there&#8217;s the goathead problem there and at the city&#8217;s 30th and Main property.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/08/13/cop-shooting-range-has-sordid-history/#comment-61403</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is this needed because of the excessive amount of rounds the cops use when they do have to use their guns?  Think of the money our community will save on cop ammo with the new range to hone their shooting skills.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this needed because of the excessive amount of rounds the cops use when they do have to use their guns?  Think of the money our community will save on cop ammo with the new range to hone their shooting skills.</p>
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		By: erico49		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/08/13/cop-shooting-range-has-sordid-history/#comment-61375</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[erico49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Casmir!  YES!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casmir!  YES!</p>
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		By: foe pa		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/08/13/cop-shooting-range-has-sordid-history/#comment-61339</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2013 01:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps a better headline for this particular article should be &quot;Sordid cops have history at shooting range&quot;. I&#039;m sure it will take on new meaning very shortly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a better headline for this particular article should be &#8220;Sordid cops have history at shooting range&#8221;. I&#8217;m sure it will take on new meaning very shortly.</p>
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		By: Casmir		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casmir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How many times do we see redundancy in local Government;  competing (yet virtually identical) interests;   rising taxes with declining efficiency.  We&#039;re all hung up on these various jurisdictions we call &quot;counties&quot;, or &quot;cities&quot; - and pay dearly for that distinction with duplicative services, infrastructure and administration.  Maybe it&#039;s time to rethink this, and have one entity that deals with it all - presumably in a more efficient manner. In the case of Boise - where most of the county is in fact, the city of Boise - why not abolish the whole concept of &quot;county&quot; government?    Or vice versa.  Redundancy only fulfills the desires of politicians and bureaucrats- not citizens.  Idle thoughts....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times do we see redundancy in local Government;  competing (yet virtually identical) interests;   rising taxes with declining efficiency.  We&#8217;re all hung up on these various jurisdictions we call &#8220;counties&#8221;, or &#8220;cities&#8221; &#8211; and pay dearly for that distinction with duplicative services, infrastructure and administration.  Maybe it&#8217;s time to rethink this, and have one entity that deals with it all &#8211; presumably in a more efficient manner. In the case of Boise &#8211; where most of the county is in fact, the city of Boise &#8211; why not abolish the whole concept of &#8220;county&#8221; government?    Or vice versa.  Redundancy only fulfills the desires of politicians and bureaucrats- not citizens.  Idle thoughts&#8230;.</p>
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		By: George		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[King Dave is using the raises the police gave up last yr and for 1.3 mil they should be able to set up a carney shooting range with the electric Bunny rabbits on a wheel, and if the cop hits one he gets 5 bucks a month raise. Why don&#039;t they use the facility to teach proper gun shooting, it could pay for itself and people would get a stuffed rabbit if they hit the target, smaller gun, bigger the bunny, using an Uzi, small rabbit]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>King Dave is using the raises the police gave up last yr and for 1.3 mil they should be able to set up a carney shooting range with the electric Bunny rabbits on a wheel, and if the cop hits one he gets 5 bucks a month raise. Why don&#8217;t they use the facility to teach proper gun shooting, it could pay for itself and people would get a stuffed rabbit if they hit the target, smaller gun, bigger the bunny, using an Uzi, small rabbit</p>
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		By: Grumpy ole Guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grumpy ole Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 02:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So many questions, so few answers.  Which police forces train where?  Does the Police Academy in Meridian have it&#039;s own range?  Where is it located, how much and often is it used, by whom.  In Ada County how many law enforcement agencies are there?  Ada Sheriff, Meridian City, Boise City, But what Federal forces are there?  Marshall&#039;s, what are their continuing training requirements and where do they train.  Do the TSA agents require continuous training?  Where, how much?   If the City Police range is used for private functions, such as a retirement party, is there a fee/charge for this, how much, where does the money go?   If not, why not?
Are the Kuna, Star and Eagle policing duties covered by the Ada County Sheriff&#039;s office, or by another agency?  If a different agency, where do they train?  Who pays for their training?
Do the County Jail employees train at the State prison or at the Boise City site?
Is the Juvenile facility a City, County or State facility?  where do those guards train?

Really seems to me that some sort of (you should forgive the expression) a joint facility, makes the greatest amount of sense.

EDITOR NOTE--As stated, ISP, ACSO, ACADEMY, all train at the prison range.  Others train there as well.  TSA is not &quot;law enforcement,&quot; so they don&#039;t carry weapons.  After the sale by the  Boise Police Association, the facility ceased to have parties and rent of the clubhouse.  Kuna, Star, Eagle are all Ada Sheriff contract deals.  ALL Ada training is at the corrections site, but jail officers do not carry weapons.  Juvenile is a county function under the commishes--again no weapons.  All coppers whether corrections, jailers, ISP, BPD have to pass &quot;POST CERTIFICATION (Peace Officers Standards Training).  Most go to the academy, but ISP and BPD sometimes have their own academy when they have enough new hires.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many questions, so few answers.  Which police forces train where?  Does the Police Academy in Meridian have it&#8217;s own range?  Where is it located, how much and often is it used, by whom.  In Ada County how many law enforcement agencies are there?  Ada Sheriff, Meridian City, Boise City, But what Federal forces are there?  Marshall&#8217;s, what are their continuing training requirements and where do they train.  Do the TSA agents require continuous training?  Where, how much?   If the City Police range is used for private functions, such as a retirement party, is there a fee/charge for this, how much, where does the money go?   If not, why not?<br />
Are the Kuna, Star and Eagle policing duties covered by the Ada County Sheriff&#8217;s office, or by another agency?  If a different agency, where do they train?  Who pays for their training?<br />
Do the County Jail employees train at the State prison or at the Boise City site?<br />
Is the Juvenile facility a City, County or State facility?  where do those guards train?</p>
<p>Really seems to me that some sort of (you should forgive the expression) a joint facility, makes the greatest amount of sense.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;As stated, ISP, ACSO, ACADEMY, all train at the prison range.  Others train there as well.  TSA is not &#8220;law enforcement,&#8221; so they don&#8217;t carry weapons.  After the sale by the  Boise Police Association, the facility ceased to have parties and rent of the clubhouse.  Kuna, Star, Eagle are all Ada Sheriff contract deals.  ALL Ada training is at the corrections site, but jail officers do not carry weapons.  Juvenile is a county function under the commishes&#8211;again no weapons.  All coppers whether corrections, jailers, ISP, BPD have to pass &#8220;POST CERTIFICATION (Peace Officers Standards Training).  Most go to the academy, but ISP and BPD sometimes have their own academy when they have enough new hires.</p>
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		By: LJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem with the IDOC range becomes scheduling.  Boise would add somewhere around 300 officers right?  It gets difficult to schedule around each other, just not big enough.  Unless the state would give an opportunity to BPD to expand out there, then they might have a chance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the IDOC range becomes scheduling.  Boise would add somewhere around 300 officers right?  It gets difficult to schedule around each other, just not big enough.  Unless the state would give an opportunity to BPD to expand out there, then they might have a chance.</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why not someplace out in the desert....like Blacks Creek http://www.blackscreekrange.com/

EDITOR NOTE--Check out the update at the end of the original post.  Sheriff pays $1500 a year to shoot at the prison.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not someplace out in the desert&#8230;.like Blacks Creek <a href="http://www.blackscreekrange.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.blackscreekrange.com/</a></p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Check out the update at the end of the original post.  Sheriff pays $1500 a year to shoot at the prison.</p>
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