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		By: Rick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Folks
I will be the first to as Dave says “bash” a cop but let’s all be reasonable. (I am admonishing myself more than anyone else) I do not think there is any way an intelligent argument can be made for LE not needing better supervision, not only in Boise but across the nation.

 I wonder if we are all not looking at this problem from the wrong view point. We are looking at this from a quality assurance instead of a quality control stand point. Quality assurance reacts after the fact and does nothing to avert paying someone who had a tazer placed near his nether regions. Quality control would ensure that the infamous “Officer 3” of the tazer incident had known that that type of behavior was unacceptable and would not be tolerated.

 To those who would say that an ombudsman is not needed I cannot agree if you say an ombudsman should not be needed I would whole heartedly agree. Paying for one or more individuals to provide additional oversight can be considered nothing but a waste of tax money especially when the individual/individuals in the office can only react to alleged bad actions by LE. Would the money already being spent to pay the salaries of trainers and supervisors be better spent if those trainers and supervisors actually did their jobs?

 I do not want this to sound like I am blaming this only on the beat cops, it is not all their fault. Individuals act in the way they are trained and unfortunately cops are trained that they are always the ultimate authority in every situation, which is untrue far too often. I guess the worst thing about the training is when an instance like Sgt Sperry’s you tube video happen the average cop is trained that those actions as illegal as they were are acceptable.

To the trainers at POST I would say this, teach the rank and file the right way from the start and too the supervisors  I would say hold your charges to a much higher standard than you presently are. As a tax payer I personally expect more for the nearly 100K that a supervisor makes than what I feel I am getting. If this is seen as bashing I am not sure it will ever be possible to voice an opinion or concern about LE that is not seen as such.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks<br />
I will be the first to as Dave says “bash” a cop but let’s all be reasonable. (I am admonishing myself more than anyone else) I do not think there is any way an intelligent argument can be made for LE not needing better supervision, not only in Boise but across the nation.</p>
<p> I wonder if we are all not looking at this problem from the wrong view point. We are looking at this from a quality assurance instead of a quality control stand point. Quality assurance reacts after the fact and does nothing to avert paying someone who had a tazer placed near his nether regions. Quality control would ensure that the infamous “Officer 3” of the tazer incident had known that that type of behavior was unacceptable and would not be tolerated.</p>
<p> To those who would say that an ombudsman is not needed I cannot agree if you say an ombudsman should not be needed I would whole heartedly agree. Paying for one or more individuals to provide additional oversight can be considered nothing but a waste of tax money especially when the individual/individuals in the office can only react to alleged bad actions by LE. Would the money already being spent to pay the salaries of trainers and supervisors be better spent if those trainers and supervisors actually did their jobs?</p>
<p> I do not want this to sound like I am blaming this only on the beat cops, it is not all their fault. Individuals act in the way they are trained and unfortunately cops are trained that they are always the ultimate authority in every situation, which is untrue far too often. I guess the worst thing about the training is when an instance like Sgt Sperry’s you tube video happen the average cop is trained that those actions as illegal as they were are acceptable.</p>
<p>To the trainers at POST I would say this, teach the rank and file the right way from the start and too the supervisors  I would say hold your charges to a much higher standard than you presently are. As a tax payer I personally expect more for the nearly 100K that a supervisor makes than what I feel I am getting. If this is seen as bashing I am not sure it will ever be possible to voice an opinion or concern about LE that is not seen as such.</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The coppers and prosecutors must refocus, and yes, it is a leadership issue!!

Again, these guys cannot apprehend and effectively prosecute the real criminals.  Hiring more bungling and bumbling coppers and prosecutors to bloat the payrolls of the municipalities exacerbated the problem and is no solution.

Tormenting, bullying, coercing, and harrassing innocents is the end result of the bloated and flabby payrolls and flabby behinds!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coppers and prosecutors must refocus, and yes, it is a leadership issue!!</p>
<p>Again, these guys cannot apprehend and effectively prosecute the real criminals.  Hiring more bungling and bumbling coppers and prosecutors to bloat the payrolls of the municipalities exacerbated the problem and is no solution.</p>
<p>Tormenting, bullying, coercing, and harrassing innocents is the end result of the bloated and flabby payrolls and flabby behinds!!!</p>
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		By: a day of reckoning approaches......		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[a day of reckoning approaches......]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 00:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s easy to pick on the occasional stray sheep as she did here.......it takes some real moxie to approach the 
wolves.......and with a purposeful, focused intent.  I agree with the bumbling and bungling comment........and that is a leadership issue as evidenced by this &quot;leader&quot;.  I wonder if the officer that trained her is cringing right about now.....................]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to pick on the occasional stray sheep as she did here&#8230;&#8230;.it takes some real moxie to approach the<br />
wolves&#8230;&#8230;.and with a purposeful, focused intent.  I agree with the bumbling and bungling comment&#8230;&#8230;..and that is a leadership issue as evidenced by this &#8220;leader&#8221;.  I wonder if the officer that trained her is cringing right about now&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Rifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 00:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I want to point out something that most people have missed.  Gavin is a photographer, and not just a no-body with a phone.  He started out on a 1 month photography trip.

I follow him on social media, and like some of his work.  That is why this story has caught my attention.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to point out something that most people have missed.  Gavin is a photographer, and not just a no-body with a phone.  He started out on a 1 month photography trip.</p>
<p>I follow him on social media, and like some of his work.  That is why this story has caught my attention.</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The coppers and prosecutors have, in too many instances, become sources of revenue for the municipalities, as well as the sources of the funds to pay their salaries and bennies.  This does not endearing me to them, at all.

And, when you add in the intolerable insolence and disrespect that many of them display, along with too much bungling and bumbling, no one should question the cynicism of many taxpayers and citizens towards them.

I have heard of too many traffic tickets for innocuous speeding such as even one nog over, tickets for jaywalking, crosswalk stings, speedtraps, and so forth.

And, have you ever heard of a citizen complaint ever resulting in much but whitewashing and being swept under the carpeting?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coppers and prosecutors have, in too many instances, become sources of revenue for the municipalities, as well as the sources of the funds to pay their salaries and bennies.  This does not endearing me to them, at all.</p>
<p>And, when you add in the intolerable insolence and disrespect that many of them display, along with too much bungling and bumbling, no one should question the cynicism of many taxpayers and citizens towards them.</p>
<p>I have heard of too many traffic tickets for innocuous speeding such as even one nog over, tickets for jaywalking, crosswalk stings, speedtraps, and so forth.</p>
<p>And, have you ever heard of a citizen complaint ever resulting in much but whitewashing and being swept under the carpeting?</p>
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		By: the point		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the point]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...and that&#039;s the whole point.  These clowns are a dime a dozen......most experienced, down to earth common sense cops know it....and they usually ignore them.  The problem obviously is that this SGT not only essentially started this joke of a contact, she made it worse by constantly confronting him, engaging him in meaningless debate and then.....the real ISSUE...over stepped her authority and then didn&#039;t have the common sense to stop when she obviously made a mistake.  I am wondering what kind of skills it takes to completely turn your back on a car she stopped for some type of violation that was 30 feet or so away to confront some clown shooting phone video from 50 yards away.  She is probably fortunate that someone in that car didn&#039;t REALLY have something that could have hurt her.  

Translated: her priorities were completely out of whack...this has nothing to do with your attitude towards cops.  This has EVERYTHING to do with a properly trained, professional who can control herself, think clearly on her feet and show respect and understanding for the law.  SHE DIDN&#039;t do any of those things and it needs to be addressed.  The traffic stop was probably just for show anyway and totally meaningless.....but who knows who was in the car really.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and that&#8217;s the whole point.  These clowns are a dime a dozen&#8230;&#8230;most experienced, down to earth common sense cops know it&#8230;.and they usually ignore them.  The problem obviously is that this SGT not only essentially started this joke of a contact, she made it worse by constantly confronting him, engaging him in meaningless debate and then&#8230;..the real ISSUE&#8230;over stepped her authority and then didn&#8217;t have the common sense to stop when she obviously made a mistake.  I am wondering what kind of skills it takes to completely turn your back on a car she stopped for some type of violation that was 30 feet or so away to confront some clown shooting phone video from 50 yards away.  She is probably fortunate that someone in that car didn&#8217;t REALLY have something that could have hurt her.  </p>
<p>Translated: her priorities were completely out of whack&#8230;this has nothing to do with your attitude towards cops.  This has EVERYTHING to do with a properly trained, professional who can control herself, think clearly on her feet and show respect and understanding for the law.  SHE DIDN&#8217;t do any of those things and it needs to be addressed.  The traffic stop was probably just for show anyway and totally meaningless&#8230;..but who knows who was in the car really.</p>
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		By: New to Boise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New to Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seriously? I know cops aren&#039;t popular around here, but this woman was just trying to do her job - the &quot;film-maker&quot; was obviously filming the scene to antagonize her. Isn&#039;t it reasonable for her to not want someone directly behind her while she&#039;s making the traffic stop? She didn&#039;t tell him to leave or to stop filming, only to pull over to a place where she could keep an eye on him. 

With people like Neal Feldman around who truely blow things out of porportion, the number of guns around, and the ever-increasing amount of violence against police officers, can you really blame her for not wanting this guy at her 6:00?

Without a doubt, there are instances of police abuse in this city, but this just doesn&#039;t seem like one of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously? I know cops aren&#8217;t popular around here, but this woman was just trying to do her job &#8211; the &#8220;film-maker&#8221; was obviously filming the scene to antagonize her. Isn&#8217;t it reasonable for her to not want someone directly behind her while she&#8217;s making the traffic stop? She didn&#8217;t tell him to leave or to stop filming, only to pull over to a place where she could keep an eye on him. </p>
<p>With people like Neal Feldman around who truely blow things out of porportion, the number of guns around, and the ever-increasing amount of violence against police officers, can you really blame her for not wanting this guy at her 6:00?</p>
<p>Without a doubt, there are instances of police abuse in this city, but this just doesn&#8217;t seem like one of them.</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone think that the PD... any PD can be reigned in? Cops every where are as out of control as those in congress. Cops in general and this one in particular needs some training on what they can and cannot do. Demanding ID... what a joke, cops need to be taught that they really are NOT in charge... of anything...
Yes Gene it is a waste of time... it is too bad we cannot attract intelligent level headed individuals into these positions. It is sad that most of LE do not have the ability to act professionally with the citizens they serve.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone think that the PD&#8230; any PD can be reigned in? Cops every where are as out of control as those in congress. Cops in general and this one in particular needs some training on what they can and cannot do. Demanding ID&#8230; what a joke, cops need to be taught that they really are NOT in charge&#8230; of anything&#8230;<br />
Yes Gene it is a waste of time&#8230; it is too bad we cannot attract intelligent level headed individuals into these positions. It is sad that most of LE do not have the ability to act professionally with the citizens they serve.</p>
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		By: Gene Fadness		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene Fadness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I tried to watch most of this video. What a waste of time. This guy needs to get a life. Yes, the officer overreacted. She did back off once I think she realized she was overreacting to the attention seeker who needed good footage for his YouTube video. I appreciate our police officers and all first responders who put their lives on the line for us every day. Cliche, but true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to watch most of this video. What a waste of time. This guy needs to get a life. Yes, the officer overreacted. She did back off once I think she realized she was overreacting to the attention seeker who needed good footage for his YouTube video. I appreciate our police officers and all first responders who put their lives on the line for us every day. Cliche, but true.</p>
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		By: general blaskowitz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[general blaskowitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 15:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An official complaint was filed by this individual according to the Statesman.  It is going to be absolutely fascinating to watch this unfold.  There are MANY interested individuals tracking this to see if the same standards of behavior are applied to this sgt as are applied to others.  This is one that can&#039;t be &quot;disappeared&quot; no matter how much effort is made............and I suspect it will be &quot;made&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An official complaint was filed by this individual according to the Statesman.  It is going to be absolutely fascinating to watch this unfold.  There are MANY interested individuals tracking this to see if the same standards of behavior are applied to this sgt as are applied to others.  This is one that can&#8217;t be &#8220;disappeared&#8221; no matter how much effort is made&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and I suspect it will be &#8220;made&#8221;.</p>
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