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	Comments on: Illuminating Idea Could Save Bike Riders Lives, Offer Coppers Chance To Issue More Than Tickets	</title>
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		By: Marcus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 03:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rifter:

All 50 states have a &quot;ride the same direction of traffic&quot; law for bikes. All wheels must go the same direction. Ride right. My job is to teach in the schools and driver ed classes about how to use a bicycle. I was stating that the #1 way cyclists are killed is by riding against traffic. Many folks come up to me and ask in what direction they should walk and ride. &quot;Walk left and ride right&quot; I advocate for the laws in place in Idaho for cyclists.  

Bike laws in Idaho:
http://itd.idaho.gov/bike_ped/Idaho_Vehicle_Code_for_Bikes.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rifter:</p>
<p>All 50 states have a &#8220;ride the same direction of traffic&#8221; law for bikes. All wheels must go the same direction. Ride right. My job is to teach in the schools and driver ed classes about how to use a bicycle. I was stating that the #1 way cyclists are killed is by riding against traffic. Many folks come up to me and ask in what direction they should walk and ride. &#8220;Walk left and ride right&#8221; I advocate for the laws in place in Idaho for cyclists.  </p>
<p>Bike laws in Idaho:<br />
<a href="http://itd.idaho.gov/bike_ped/Idaho_Vehicle_Code_for_Bikes.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://itd.idaho.gov/bike_ped/Idaho_Vehicle_Code_for_Bikes.pdf</a></p>
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		By: difference between a cyclist and a guy on a bike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[difference between a cyclist and a guy on a bike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First I am an avid cyclist and follow the rules as best I can/ know. The main problem is education on both sides. The second is an unwillingness to share the road by both parties. Lastly the use of common sense by both parties (which they may or may not have) Have a nice day!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I am an avid cyclist and follow the rules as best I can/ know. The main problem is education on both sides. The second is an unwillingness to share the road by both parties. Lastly the use of common sense by both parties (which they may or may not have) Have a nice day!</p>
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		By: Rifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 23:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good idea, and I am glad Masterson commented.  Thank you.  

I was curious about Marcus&#039;s point.  Bikes should ride against traffic.  I am 39, and I never learned that in school.  I learned you WALK against traffic, and RIDE with traffic.  I am not sure if that is what you were referring to, or if times before I was in school, people were taught differently.  My wife is a fair bit younger than me, and also learned the same way.  

I know most of my problems with bikes, come from the &quot;riding against traffic&quot; variety.  I do think the police need to make bikes a priority, since I believe that will save lives.  I am not saying ticket everyone, but educate.

I do notice a lot of bikers switching between being out on the roadway and then onto sidewalks, and taking the best of both worlds.  When you don&#039;t realize they are making that switch, it can create some issues, as well.  

I really don&#039;t understand why Boise police are only after car drivers.  They should be equal with the law, and not just targeting one aspect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea, and I am glad Masterson commented.  Thank you.  </p>
<p>I was curious about Marcus&#8217;s point.  Bikes should ride against traffic.  I am 39, and I never learned that in school.  I learned you WALK against traffic, and RIDE with traffic.  I am not sure if that is what you were referring to, or if times before I was in school, people were taught differently.  My wife is a fair bit younger than me, and also learned the same way.  </p>
<p>I know most of my problems with bikes, come from the &#8220;riding against traffic&#8221; variety.  I do think the police need to make bikes a priority, since I believe that will save lives.  I am not saying ticket everyone, but educate.</p>
<p>I do notice a lot of bikers switching between being out on the roadway and then onto sidewalks, and taking the best of both worlds.  When you don&#8217;t realize they are making that switch, it can create some issues, as well.  </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t understand why Boise police are only after car drivers.  They should be equal with the law, and not just targeting one aspect.</p>
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		By: Clippityclop		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HIll Road, Seaman&#039;s Gulch Road, Dry Creek Road and Cartwright Road are very frightening when it comes to cyclists.  PLEASE use flashing lights, don&#039;t ride two abreast, watch your speed downhill and ability to control your bike and lastly, when you come up behind a horse walking on the side of the road, PLEASE start talking on the approach so they know you&#039;re there.  Remember, horses are prey animals.  Let&#039;s all share the road.
Thanks so much for your consideration.  I want all of us to be safe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HIll Road, Seaman&#8217;s Gulch Road, Dry Creek Road and Cartwright Road are very frightening when it comes to cyclists.  PLEASE use flashing lights, don&#8217;t ride two abreast, watch your speed downhill and ability to control your bike and lastly, when you come up behind a horse walking on the side of the road, PLEASE start talking on the approach so they know you&#8217;re there.  Remember, horses are prey animals.  Let&#8217;s all share the road.<br />
Thanks so much for your consideration.  I want all of us to be safe.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 16:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Until bikers are held as accountable as motorists they will continue to disregard traffic and safety laws.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until bikers are held as accountable as motorists they will continue to disregard traffic and safety laws.</p>
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		By: Dave Kangas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Kangas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 00:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kudos to the Guardian! A great idea but IMHO it won&#039;t sink in.

A car going down the street without a tailight or headlights stand to get a ticket. The blinker doesn&#039;t work or you change lanes without using your blinker you get a ticket. Every driver knows and understands the implications. In most cases, not all, all you are preventing is a fender bender or a close call. Even in a bad wreck, safety belts, crush zones and air bags prevent most serious injury.

A car hits a bicyclist and it is immediately serious and life threatening. Make the laws, write the tickets and force bicyclists to take ownership of their own safety and well being. If a driver doesn&#039;t see you, he just didn&#039;t see you.....Did you do everything to be seen?  Even then, accidents will happen.

I do not understnad why it is any less serious for a bicylcist to be reckless and unsafe than a driver. Who stands to lose more?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to the Guardian! A great idea but IMHO it won&#8217;t sink in.</p>
<p>A car going down the street without a tailight or headlights stand to get a ticket. The blinker doesn&#8217;t work or you change lanes without using your blinker you get a ticket. Every driver knows and understands the implications. In most cases, not all, all you are preventing is a fender bender or a close call. Even in a bad wreck, safety belts, crush zones and air bags prevent most serious injury.</p>
<p>A car hits a bicyclist and it is immediately serious and life threatening. Make the laws, write the tickets and force bicyclists to take ownership of their own safety and well being. If a driver doesn&#8217;t see you, he just didn&#8217;t see you&#8230;..Did you do everything to be seen?  Even then, accidents will happen.</p>
<p>I do not understnad why it is any less serious for a bicylcist to be reckless and unsafe than a driver. Who stands to lose more?</p>
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		By: befiel ist befiel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[befiel ist befiel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In typical America 2013 fashion, a situation that simply requires common sense, some easily acquired manners and of course streets and sidewalks painted in a manner that make sense, this has become a situation described by bikers where car &quot;gangs&quot; are now stalking bike &#039;&#039;gang&quot;s who simply are &quot;fighting&quot; for their civil rights.  With so much anger and willingness to confront and fight within the ranks of the local bicycle riders here, maybe we could redirect some of that fighting spirit to the middle east and end this little adventure by Christmas.  Naw...guess it&#039;s easier to ignore traffic laws, spit on cars flip off drivers and then go hit the coffee shop. Turning left from Curtis on to Emerald a young 20 year old male was riding the wrong way towards the intersection literally in the middle of the road.  Had I not seen him as I made my turn and stopped in time,( because he definitely was not aware of what he was doing), he would have been on my hood. At least a dozen people witnessed it and he calmly rode off listening to his IPOD as if nothing had happened.  Took me 15 minutes to calm down realizing how close I had come to being blamed for his reckless behavior. At this point I am all for outlawing the things ....I fear the riders and the bikes themselves that seem to have minds of their own. At least the riders seem unable to control the dam things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In typical America 2013 fashion, a situation that simply requires common sense, some easily acquired manners and of course streets and sidewalks painted in a manner that make sense, this has become a situation described by bikers where car &#8220;gangs&#8221; are now stalking bike &#8221;gang&#8221;s who simply are &#8220;fighting&#8221; for their civil rights.  With so much anger and willingness to confront and fight within the ranks of the local bicycle riders here, maybe we could redirect some of that fighting spirit to the middle east and end this little adventure by Christmas.  Naw&#8230;guess it&#8217;s easier to ignore traffic laws, spit on cars flip off drivers and then go hit the coffee shop. Turning left from Curtis on to Emerald a young 20 year old male was riding the wrong way towards the intersection literally in the middle of the road.  Had I not seen him as I made my turn and stopped in time,( because he definitely was not aware of what he was doing), he would have been on my hood. At least a dozen people witnessed it and he calmly rode off listening to his IPOD as if nothing had happened.  Took me 15 minutes to calm down realizing how close I had come to being blamed for his reckless behavior. At this point I am all for outlawing the things &#8230;.I fear the riders and the bikes themselves that seem to have minds of their own. At least the riders seem unable to control the dam things.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 23:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[rabula: &lt;i&gt;The state, ACHD and the city need to do something to make roads like State St. &#038; Federal Way, where the recent spate of killings have occurred, (as well as, Fairview, B’way and many others we could name) safer for cyclists and pedestrians.&lt;/i&gt;

I can&#039;t disagree with that.  However, there are some roads that are definitely problematic, due to &quot;real estate constraints.&quot;  The only way to add bike lanes on the &quot;State Street Bottleneck&quot; would be to eliminate motor lanes, and I don&#039;t see that happening any time soon.  (Personally, I mostly take Ellis Avenue, a block northeast.  It&#039;s a designated &quot;bike route&quot; with low traffic, and worth the detour, IMO.)

I believe Federal Way has FINE bike/pedestrian facilities!  There&#039;s a separated and dedicated bike/pedestrian path almost from end to end, and striped bike lanes in both directions.  I don&#039;t know how it could be made any safer.  (Roadway users - both motorized and non-motorized - also need to be vigilant in accident prevention.  The rise of electronic handheld gizmos is the biggest threat to safety in 2013, in this observer&#039;s opinion.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rabula: <i>The state, ACHD and the city need to do something to make roads like State St. &amp; Federal Way, where the recent spate of killings have occurred, (as well as, Fairview, B’way and many others we could name) safer for cyclists and pedestrians.</i></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t disagree with that.  However, there are some roads that are definitely problematic, due to &#8220;real estate constraints.&#8221;  The only way to add bike lanes on the &#8220;State Street Bottleneck&#8221; would be to eliminate motor lanes, and I don&#8217;t see that happening any time soon.  (Personally, I mostly take Ellis Avenue, a block northeast.  It&#8217;s a designated &#8220;bike route&#8221; with low traffic, and worth the detour, IMO.)</p>
<p>I believe Federal Way has FINE bike/pedestrian facilities!  There&#8217;s a separated and dedicated bike/pedestrian path almost from end to end, and striped bike lanes in both directions.  I don&#8217;t know how it could be made any safer.  (Roadway users &#8211; both motorized and non-motorized &#8211; also need to be vigilant in accident prevention.  The rise of electronic handheld gizmos is the biggest threat to safety in 2013, in this observer&#8217;s opinion.)</p>
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		By: rabula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rabula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 22:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The low enforcement priority of cycling laws long predates the present administration. I&#039;ll bet that the current mayor never indicated to the police that they should go light on bicyclists breaking the law.

Should visible licenses be required of pedestrians, too? 

BTW, a license plate identifies the vehicle, not the operator. As many cyclists can testify, reporting a license number doesn&#039;t do much good if you can&#039;t identify the operator.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The low enforcement priority of cycling laws long predates the present administration. I&#8217;ll bet that the current mayor never indicated to the police that they should go light on bicyclists breaking the law.</p>
<p>Should visible licenses be required of pedestrians, too? </p>
<p>BTW, a license plate identifies the vehicle, not the operator. As many cyclists can testify, reporting a license number doesn&#8217;t do much good if you can&#8217;t identify the operator.</p>
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		By: rabula		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 22:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree, Steve,
But the state, ACHD and the city need to do something to make roads like State St. &#038; Federal Way, where the recent spate of killings have occurred, (as well as, Fairview, B&#039;way and many others we could name) safer for cyclists and pedestrians. Crossing or cycling those streets is scary and, sometimes, deadly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Steve,<br />
But the state, ACHD and the city need to do something to make roads like State St. &amp; Federal Way, where the recent spate of killings have occurred, (as well as, Fairview, B&#8217;way and many others we could name) safer for cyclists and pedestrians. Crossing or cycling those streets is scary and, sometimes, deadly.</p>
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