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		By: Bill Jarocki		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/10/14/big-money-for-bieter-bond-proposal/#comment-67012</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Jarocki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember, You Get the Government You Vote For: Part 2

Tonight was public forum number 2 for the Boise City Council axis of incumbency and three brave challengers.  What I&#039;ve heard them say twice (in unison, in lockstep) is that the &quot;most livable&quot; city in America can only remain so if you elect them AND elect to tax yourself and your neighbors.  I think I&#039;ve heard this before.  If something gets repeated enough, everybody believes it.    
Tonight one of the incumbents also said if the bonds pass, they think they can build another branch library from the resources in the current budget.  
Like they are doing you a favor?
The fact is that the so-called &quot;hold the line budget&quot; called for a property tax increase even before you decide on November 5th to tax yourself even more.
KEEP BOISE MOVING FORWARD is the slogan of the incumbents.  And it will keep moving forward as long as you pay more taxes.  So they seem to say.
And another thing -- my incumbent opponent says that the city&#039;s private trash pickup contractor returned $150,000 by switching to natural gas vehicles.  Of course YOU don&#039;t get a rebate on your trash bill (the bill you already paid).  Instead the council (ever mindful of your wishes)decides how the &quot;savings&quot; will be spent.  Well, that will run the parks and recreation department for a couple of days.  Big deal.  

Dear Incumbents:
Hold your horses.  Listen to us.  &quot;NO&quot; to the bonds, and no to more taxes.  What is the next best idea for meeting OUR priorities?  Can we get a better government for less of our money?  Would you even try to be efficient? Can&#039;t you please do better than this?
Sincerely, Bill Jarocki for City Council Seat #4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, You Get the Government You Vote For: Part 2</p>
<p>Tonight was public forum number 2 for the Boise City Council axis of incumbency and three brave challengers.  What I&#8217;ve heard them say twice (in unison, in lockstep) is that the &#8220;most livable&#8221; city in America can only remain so if you elect them AND elect to tax yourself and your neighbors.  I think I&#8217;ve heard this before.  If something gets repeated enough, everybody believes it.<br />
Tonight one of the incumbents also said if the bonds pass, they think they can build another branch library from the resources in the current budget.<br />
Like they are doing you a favor?<br />
The fact is that the so-called &#8220;hold the line budget&#8221; called for a property tax increase even before you decide on November 5th to tax yourself even more.<br />
KEEP BOISE MOVING FORWARD is the slogan of the incumbents.  And it will keep moving forward as long as you pay more taxes.  So they seem to say.<br />
And another thing &#8212; my incumbent opponent says that the city&#8217;s private trash pickup contractor returned $150,000 by switching to natural gas vehicles.  Of course YOU don&#8217;t get a rebate on your trash bill (the bill you already paid).  Instead the council (ever mindful of your wishes)decides how the &#8220;savings&#8221; will be spent.  Well, that will run the parks and recreation department for a couple of days.  Big deal.  </p>
<p>Dear Incumbents:<br />
Hold your horses.  Listen to us.  &#8220;NO&#8221; to the bonds, and no to more taxes.  What is the next best idea for meeting OUR priorities?  Can we get a better government for less of our money?  Would you even try to be efficient? Can&#8217;t you please do better than this?<br />
Sincerely, Bill Jarocki for City Council Seat #4</p>
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		By: john		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/10/14/big-money-for-bieter-bond-proposal/#comment-66840</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Firefighters begging in the streets (GET OUT OF THE ROAD YOU IDIOT) If you had enough money to donate to a political cause then have some pride and get the f out of the streets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firefighters begging in the streets (GET OUT OF THE ROAD YOU IDIOT) If you had enough money to donate to a political cause then have some pride and get the f out of the streets.</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/10/14/big-money-for-bieter-bond-proposal/#comment-66616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The list of donors looks like a juicy smorgasbord of developers, public unions, and others slurping at the public troughs and nipples.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The list of donors looks like a juicy smorgasbord of developers, public unions, and others slurping at the public troughs and nipples.</p>
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		By: Ivan		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/10/14/big-money-for-bieter-bond-proposal/#comment-66509</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boisean-my intent is to point out &quot;it should have nothing to do with a ballPARK&quot; but I sense it does...and I have no REAL hard facts as of yet...just some whispers that the ballPARK is indeed NOT dead in the water but very actively being pursued...time will tell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boisean-my intent is to point out &#8220;it should have nothing to do with a ballPARK&#8221; but I sense it does&#8230;and I have no REAL hard facts as of yet&#8230;just some whispers that the ballPARK is indeed NOT dead in the water but very actively being pursued&#8230;time will tell.</p>
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		By: Boisean		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/10/14/big-money-for-bieter-bond-proposal/#comment-66311</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boisean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 02:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ivan -  I haven&#039;d decided how to vote on the bonds (leaning yes for public saftey and no against parks), but I am pretty sure that the ballpark has nothing to do with it. That said,  many of my friends are supporting both. I&#039;d be inclined to agree with them, but it feels like the City needs to do a bit more homework.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan &#8211;  I haven&#8217;d decided how to vote on the bonds (leaning yes for public saftey and no against parks), but I am pretty sure that the ballpark has nothing to do with it. That said,  many of my friends are supporting both. I&#8217;d be inclined to agree with them, but it feels like the City needs to do a bit more homework.</p>
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		By: Nan e mouse		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/10/14/big-money-for-bieter-bond-proposal/#comment-66306</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nan e mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 01:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the open space is such a big deal, they could run a 2 year override at the end of which they&#039;d have $10 million and no debt.  Then use impact fees and current accounts for other park development.  Easy peasy.  Unless of course, there&#039;s an ulterior motive afoot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the open space is such a big deal, they could run a 2 year override at the end of which they&#8217;d have $10 million and no debt.  Then use impact fees and current accounts for other park development.  Easy peasy.  Unless of course, there&#8217;s an ulterior motive afoot.</p>
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		By: Katherine Frazier		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/10/14/big-money-for-bieter-bond-proposal/#comment-66299</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katherine Frazier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 22:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have money, but i have friends and a brain, and we are putting out messages opposing the bond issue.  not everyone is taken in by the glossy ads coming to our doors, promising lovely things like open spaces for the children.  how did that work in the last bond issue? I understand that there is still a sizable fund left from that, maybe over $one million. Thanks Dave, for facts and for setting the young man straight.  hope i have a similar opportunity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have money, but i have friends and a brain, and we are putting out messages opposing the bond issue.  not everyone is taken in by the glossy ads coming to our doors, promising lovely things like open spaces for the children.  how did that work in the last bond issue? I understand that there is still a sizable fund left from that, maybe over $one million. Thanks Dave, for facts and for setting the young man straight.  hope i have a similar opportunity.</p>
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		By: Voter		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/10/14/big-money-for-bieter-bond-proposal/#comment-66295</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Voter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting to see the &quot;non profit&quot; money being spent. Blue Cross an St Luke&#039;s - now you know where your healthcare money goes - in addition to the $35 MILLION in &quot;profit&quot; that the two companies make between them ANNUALY!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to see the &#8220;non profit&#8221; money being spent. Blue Cross an St Luke&#8217;s &#8211; now you know where your healthcare money goes &#8211; in addition to the $35 MILLION in &#8220;profit&#8221; that the two companies make between them ANNUALY!</p>
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		By: Ivan		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/10/14/big-money-for-bieter-bond-proposal/#comment-66280</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[all this talk about &quot;open spaces&quot;/parks...maybe-just maybe the real intent is about a ballPARK. maybe?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all this talk about &#8220;open spaces&#8221;/parks&#8230;maybe-just maybe the real intent is about a ballPARK. maybe?</p>
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		By: costaprettypeny		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/10/14/big-money-for-bieter-bond-proposal/#comment-66266</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[costaprettypeny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone noticed the emphasis on all the park improvements..

EDITOR NOTE--Fire Chief says they saved $1 million closing the Chinden Blvd. station.  It would sound reasonable to figure new stations would cost $1 million to staff each year plus hundreds of thousands for rigs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone noticed the emphasis on all the park improvements..</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Fire Chief says they saved $1 million closing the Chinden Blvd. station.  It would sound reasonable to figure new stations would cost $1 million to staff each year plus hundreds of thousands for rigs.</p>
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