Comments on: BB Gun Incident Could Have Been Fatal

By: rick

rick — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 20:13:51 +0000

Smeg…. not sure how the 2 stories equate… 1 guy doing his job and tragically being killed evens out over 5 dozen blatantly ignoring rules. All I can say to that is thanks for showing the ludicrous bias on the part of the cops can do no wrong crowd…

By: nada nada nada

nada nada nada — Wed, 06 Nov 2013 00:14:22 +0000

I don’t believe he was necessarily cop bashing…even if he was that is the most ridiculous situation I have ever read about…at least up to this point. Time will tell.

By: Smeg

Smeg — Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:05:23 +0000

Since the Guardian does not want to enforce its own rules about blanket bashing of coppers as demonstrated by Zippo’s link posted November 3rd, I thought I would post this link to balance out the non-discussion.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/regional/Officer-in-Oregon-City-house-fire-shooting-dies-230576851.html

By: john

john — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 22:28:55 +0000

I was hit by an officer in a squad car once. He was driving too fast and didn’t make the turn and slammed right into the side of my truck(saved me, in a small I would have been seriously injured). He was in a hurry and late for a court appearance.

By: Rick

Rick — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 01:47:06 +0000

Zippo you bring up a very good point about dispatchers. Not enough listening and too much talking back.
Dave brings up a very good point about it being classified as a personnel matter…. this in itself is scary.

I really do not mean to bash anyone but is it not obvious to all that LE needs more unbiased supervision at all levels?

An ex-cop ombudsman is not going to give the unbiased oversight needed to make citizens safer.

By: Zippo

Zippo — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:23:54 +0000

http://www.ktvb.com/news/national/227831391.html

By: We are still in active combat in afghanistan

We are still in active combat in afghanistan — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 02:57:29 +0000

So. Has the usual shell game taken place AGAIN? Has the infamous BPD sgt of YOUTUBE fame been quietly promoted to LT or even more silently transferred to some place harmless…….like property crimes? This is YOUR police department. If actions like this are acceptable then why waste your time on any other police issue. It really didn’t get any worse than what was recorded that night………….

By: Casmir

Casmir — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 18:11:45 +0000

“First do no harm”. Applies to physicians -should apply to police and the political class. I’ve seen some pretty aggressive driving by the police from time to time. I’m not saying that should never happen – but given the nature of crime in our area- it doesn’t need to happen often. They can rush – but do so without unduly risking the safety of others. Should be policy.

Last question: where are the parents of these kids, and how stupid can you be? Lucky they are alive.

By: LJ

LJ — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:44:53 +0000

A lot of people seem to be indicating a BB gun is not dangerous. Just yesterday there was a news story about a young child being killed by a BB gun. A quick google search brings up numerous examples of kids or adults being seriously injured or killed by a bb gun.

Also, with all the recent school shootings why would the police take the age of the suspects into account? A juvenile with a gun is just as dangerous as an adult.

Just one example…

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/21/florida-boy-10-dies-after-brother-accidentally-shoots-him-with-bb-gun/

By: Zippo

Zippo — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 07:47:46 +0000

My experience in speaking with ADA dispatch about an urgent matter is that some of them are VERY POOR listeners and want to do all the talking. They have several blanks on their template to fill out and don’t seem to give a crap that while being interrogated by those template questions the caller may well forget the pertinent details which are only committed to short term memory. I STRONGLY URGE the Chief and Sheriff to review this experience from the point of view of a caller who is trying to momentarily recall a license plate number and vehicle description.

I don’t think this was a cold call. They probably were still goofing around when stopped. I think this case is a major positive for the coppers but for the wreck. Don’t forget this town has had it’s share of crazies who want to have a shootout with the coppers.

As for driving too fast… it happens all the time, it is dangerous, they know it and don’t care because they probably won’t get spanked.

As for potentially shooting the person with the BB gun… that happens all the time too. Go look at one of those things at a store (very realistic)… you might shoot them too if pointed at you with hostile intent.

PS: To anyone who calls 911. When you hangup from a cell phone call… they can still hear you. You must turn the phone off and back on, then make an additional call to another number to shake them.