<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>
	Comments on: Boise Councilors Stay, Bond Debt  Goes	</title>
	<atom:link href="https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/</link>
	<description>A different slant on the news.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:29:56 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>
	hourly	</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>
	1	</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4</generator>
	<item>
		<title>
		By: Nan e mouse		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/#comment-68647</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nan e mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10559#comment-68647</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Tea partyism Rod?  Can you be any less serious?

Do you not now have a fire station to serve you in SE Boise?  Did the city close the one on Gekeler?  Did they close the one at Harris Ranch?  How bout the one on Reserve which can shoot straight down Broadway? How about the one near the airport that can shoot down federal way?

Yeah Rod, do us all a favor.  Buy your own fire truck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tea partyism Rod?  Can you be any less serious?</p>
<p>Do you not now have a fire station to serve you in SE Boise?  Did the city close the one on Gekeler?  Did they close the one at Harris Ranch?  How bout the one on Reserve which can shoot straight down Broadway? How about the one near the airport that can shoot down federal way?</p>
<p>Yeah Rod, do us all a favor.  Buy your own fire truck.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: D		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/#comment-68630</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10559#comment-68630</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Tax and spend government? Wasteful spending? This state is clearly drinking way too much tea...

Issuing debt is one of the only ways local government in Idaho can finance projects. Cities and counties rely on G.O. and revenue bonds across the country to complete needed projects. The shortsightedness and tax-me-not attitude will have long-term consequences for Idaho/Boise competitiveness. We need to start realizing that we must pay for the infrastructure and services we use, and for the things that make our community more livable and enjoyable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax and spend government? Wasteful spending? This state is clearly drinking way too much tea&#8230;</p>
<p>Issuing debt is one of the only ways local government in Idaho can finance projects. Cities and counties rely on G.O. and revenue bonds across the country to complete needed projects. The shortsightedness and tax-me-not attitude will have long-term consequences for Idaho/Boise competitiveness. We need to start realizing that we must pay for the infrastructure and services we use, and for the things that make our community more livable and enjoyable.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/#comment-68629</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod in SE Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10559#comment-68629</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[So, am I going to have to buy my own fire truck to protect my house?  Tea Party-ism is causing our society to crumble.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, am I going to have to buy my own fire truck to protect my house?  Tea Party-ism is causing our society to crumble.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/#comment-68628</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10559#comment-68628</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I was mistaken. It seems that voting twice is a felony.

Interesting article here:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/12/30/arizona-nabs-double-voters/1799581/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was mistaken. It seems that voting twice is a felony.</p>
<p>Interesting article here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/12/30/arizona-nabs-double-voters/1799581/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/12/30/arizona-nabs-double-voters/1799581/</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/#comment-68627</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10559#comment-68627</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[One thing that never gets reported--- how many other states mandate a supermajority for bond passage? And if there are states with simple majority requirements, do they put a cap on indebtedness relative to annual revenue?

Personally, I&#039;m fine with the two bond measures failing. However, the nay voters votes are worth 1.6 times the yea voters in every such election. This is patently undemocratic. Voting twice is a misdemeanor right? But not voting 1.6 times.

In other words, what if a bond measure required a 66.6% no vote to fail? Can you imagine how many of you would cry foul?

EDITOR NOTE--It is SUPPOSED to be hard to pass.  Constitutional amendments have a supermajority.  The council itself requires a supermajority to dismiss the ombudsman for instance.  The majority is for those who VOTE, not registered voters.  If a simple majority consisted only of those willing to follow the affluent who waged YES YES, it would amount to a tiny fraction of those entitled to vote.  There are many arguments for the supermajority.  One thing it does is force politicos to reevaluate issues and come back to ask permission if it fails.  If a bond passes, there is no going back…if it fails officials can beat us to death until they get what they want.  The supermajority is a logical safeguard when viewed in the big picture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that never gets reported&#8212; how many other states mandate a supermajority for bond passage? And if there are states with simple majority requirements, do they put a cap on indebtedness relative to annual revenue?</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m fine with the two bond measures failing. However, the nay voters votes are worth 1.6 times the yea voters in every such election. This is patently undemocratic. Voting twice is a misdemeanor right? But not voting 1.6 times.</p>
<p>In other words, what if a bond measure required a 66.6% no vote to fail? Can you imagine how many of you would cry foul?</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;It is SUPPOSED to be hard to pass.  Constitutional amendments have a supermajority.  The council itself requires a supermajority to dismiss the ombudsman for instance.  The majority is for those who VOTE, not registered voters.  If a simple majority consisted only of those willing to follow the affluent who waged YES YES, it would amount to a tiny fraction of those entitled to vote.  There are many arguments for the supermajority.  One thing it does is force politicos to reevaluate issues and come back to ask permission if it fails.  If a bond passes, there is no going back…if it fails officials can beat us to death until they get what they want.  The supermajority is a logical safeguard when viewed in the big picture.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Eastern		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/#comment-68616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eastern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 16:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10559#comment-68616</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[One thought is if we didn&#039;t REelect the incumbents perhaps we would not have to face the question of  a bond election.  

Wasteful spending by the city council creates the problem.  Boise City has had lots of money in the past 20 years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thought is if we didn&#8217;t REelect the incumbents perhaps we would not have to face the question of  a bond election.  </p>
<p>Wasteful spending by the city council creates the problem.  Boise City has had lots of money in the past 20 years.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: JJ		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/#comment-68613</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10559#comment-68613</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Thanks to the challengers who tried.  Government only works when there is competition and consequences.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the challengers who tried.  Government only works when there is competition and consequences.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Dan		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/#comment-68604</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10559#comment-68604</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Glad to see the folks finally stood up to this tax and spend city government. Maybe the mayor needs to look at his budgeting process and use it properly to pay for fire station upgrades and replacements.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see the folks finally stood up to this tax and spend city government. Maybe the mayor needs to look at his budgeting process and use it properly to pay for fire station upgrades and replacements.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/06/boise-councilors-stay-bond-debt-goes/#comment-68565</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10559#comment-68565</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[With a new face in Nampa too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a new face in Nampa too.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
