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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/12/boise-coppers-give-more-than-tickets-to-bikers/#comment-90058</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 17:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How much is all this bicycle-worship costing us?

The idea of converting lanes for cars into bike lanes it outrageous - traffic is already bad enough as it is!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much is all this bicycle-worship costing us?</p>
<p>The idea of converting lanes for cars into bike lanes it outrageous &#8211; traffic is already bad enough as it is!</p>
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		By: it's all an illusion		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/12/boise-coppers-give-more-than-tickets-to-bikers/#comment-75305</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[it's all an illusion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like the last lifeboat off the sinking ship just left with it&#039;s last passenger.  Good timing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the last lifeboat off the sinking ship just left with it&#8217;s last passenger.  Good timing.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/12/boise-coppers-give-more-than-tickets-to-bikers/#comment-70945</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No one mentions the cost of this &quot;program&quot;?  

Tax dollars paying for lights for someone not wanting to get their own lights. 

ACHD actually went out to get their logo printed on some lights on your tax dollar.   That&#039;s cool with everyone?  

And when are they going to buy some headlights for the cars driving around with a burned out headlight?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one mentions the cost of this &#8220;program&#8221;?  </p>
<p>Tax dollars paying for lights for someone not wanting to get their own lights. </p>
<p>ACHD actually went out to get their logo printed on some lights on your tax dollar.   That&#8217;s cool with everyone?  </p>
<p>And when are they going to buy some headlights for the cars driving around with a burned out headlight?</p>
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		By: L.D.		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/12/boise-coppers-give-more-than-tickets-to-bikers/#comment-70082</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[that&#039;s your opinion]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s your opinion</p>
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		By: Friendly encounter		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/12/boise-coppers-give-more-than-tickets-to-bikers/#comment-70057</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Friendly encounter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So the concern seems to be not upsetting the biking population of this fair city.  WRONG.  Upset them and MAYBE they will see the light.  For those of us who are old enough to remember the Schwinn bikes of the 60&#039;s, it is AMAZING that any of us even survived until this present day.  And you know what….even as kids we realized the CARS rule the road…like it or not.  So we followed the RULES,…and believe it or not I didn&#039;t even wear a helmet, 3000 dollar spandex or sunglasses…t- shirts and jeans was it baby.  The bikers today epitomize the attitude of this country now…it&#039;s all about ME ME ME.  And you are right…GROW UP!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the concern seems to be not upsetting the biking population of this fair city.  WRONG.  Upset them and MAYBE they will see the light.  For those of us who are old enough to remember the Schwinn bikes of the 60&#8217;s, it is AMAZING that any of us even survived until this present day.  And you know what….even as kids we realized the CARS rule the road…like it or not.  So we followed the RULES,…and believe it or not I didn&#8217;t even wear a helmet, 3000 dollar spandex or sunglasses…t- shirts and jeans was it baby.  The bikers today epitomize the attitude of this country now…it&#8217;s all about ME ME ME.  And you are right…GROW UP!</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/12/boise-coppers-give-more-than-tickets-to-bikers/#comment-69992</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks bikeboy. Don&#039;t the better quality bike lights have variable brightness? Switch to low on greenbelt to save juice and high on the road.

And LD, classic, either you missed my statement or you didn&#039;t debate it because you know I&#039;m right and you got nothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks bikeboy. Don&#8217;t the better quality bike lights have variable brightness? Switch to low on greenbelt to save juice and high on the road.</p>
<p>And LD, classic, either you missed my statement or you didn&#8217;t debate it because you know I&#8217;m right and you got nothing.</p>
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		By: lady4libety		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/12/boise-coppers-give-more-than-tickets-to-bikers/#comment-69934</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lady4libety]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please, please boisenic don&#039;t encourage bikers to use the sidewalk.  We walkers already share with the skaters, boarders, skooters, motorized and non-motorized wheelchairs.  As a serious, frequent walker in and around downtown,the most dangerous threat to us are the bikers. Young skateboarders are more courteous.  Come on you guys in your $3,000 and spandex, put on your big boy pants and get out in the street where you belong.  Most cities would ticket you; the city of Boise should consider that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, please boisenic don&#8217;t encourage bikers to use the sidewalk.  We walkers already share with the skaters, boarders, skooters, motorized and non-motorized wheelchairs.  As a serious, frequent walker in and around downtown,the most dangerous threat to us are the bikers. Young skateboarders are more courteous.  Come on you guys in your $3,000 and spandex, put on your big boy pants and get out in the street where you belong.  Most cities would ticket you; the city of Boise should consider that.</p>
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		By: L.D.		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/12/boise-coppers-give-more-than-tickets-to-bikers/#comment-69926</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 03:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ahhh... sometimes I&#039;m right, and sometimes I&#039;m wrong... that is the way it goes with opinions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahhh&#8230; sometimes I&#8217;m right, and sometimes I&#8217;m wrong&#8230; that is the way it goes with opinions.</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/12/boise-coppers-give-more-than-tickets-to-bikers/#comment-69861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 19:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[L D your post on the 12th is correct but you missing one thing. The powers that be do not want you to make choices your self... they are slowly taking all our rights to self regulate... come on we all know they know what&#039;s best for us...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L D your post on the 12th is correct but you missing one thing. The powers that be do not want you to make choices your self&#8230; they are slowly taking all our rights to self regulate&#8230; come on we all know they know what&#8217;s best for us&#8230;</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/11/12/boise-coppers-give-more-than-tickets-to-bikers/#comment-69849</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[boisecynic: &lt;i&gt;Bike lights are little help if they are drowned out by car lights behind the bike. ... The only truly safe option for night cycling is to avoid busy roads.&lt;/i&gt;

Interesting and valid points, boisecynic.  Depending on what you mean by &quot;truly safe,&quot; however, even riding at night on side streets can have some dangers.  I&#039;ve found that it&#039;s much easier to overlook debris, grates, potholes, etc., when depending on lighting other than the sun.

&quot;Situational awareness&quot; is particularly critical to cyclists, who have to avoid accidents to avoid injury or death.  If you&#039;re sharing a road at night with cars, you need to realize that other roadway users are less likely to see you... if you&#039;re riding straight toward the setting sun, understand that motorists approaching from behind also have the sun in their eyes, etc.

L.D. mentioned that some blinky bike lights are almost TOO bright!  And indeed, if a lone bicycle is piercing the darkness with such a light, it appears bright indeed!  But if it&#039;s surrounded by 100 car headlights... maybe not so much.  And in daytime, even less so.

I s&#039;pose if I had to choose between annoying other roadway users with a too-bright light, or not being seen, I&#039;d have to go with too-bright.  (I don&#039;t think I&#039;m in danger of blinding anybody with my Chinese LED flashlight that uses 1 AA battery.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boisecynic: <i>Bike lights are little help if they are drowned out by car lights behind the bike. &#8230; The only truly safe option for night cycling is to avoid busy roads.</i></p>
<p>Interesting and valid points, boisecynic.  Depending on what you mean by &#8220;truly safe,&#8221; however, even riding at night on side streets can have some dangers.  I&#8217;ve found that it&#8217;s much easier to overlook debris, grates, potholes, etc., when depending on lighting other than the sun.</p>
<p>&#8220;Situational awareness&#8221; is particularly critical to cyclists, who have to avoid accidents to avoid injury or death.  If you&#8217;re sharing a road at night with cars, you need to realize that other roadway users are less likely to see you&#8230; if you&#8217;re riding straight toward the setting sun, understand that motorists approaching from behind also have the sun in their eyes, etc.</p>
<p>L.D. mentioned that some blinky bike lights are almost TOO bright!  And indeed, if a lone bicycle is piercing the darkness with such a light, it appears bright indeed!  But if it&#8217;s surrounded by 100 car headlights&#8230; maybe not so much.  And in daytime, even less so.</p>
<p>I s&#8217;pose if I had to choose between annoying other roadway users with a too-bright light, or not being seen, I&#8217;d have to go with too-bright.  (I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m in danger of blinding anybody with my Chinese LED flashlight that uses 1 AA battery.)</p>
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