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		By: Sal Nez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sal Nez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 23:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Then don&#039;t put yourself in a situation where you are involved in the legal system! Its not that hard to be a law abiding citizen either you know!!

EDITOR NOTE--Sorry folks, we had to close comments on this one.  The dead horse is buried.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then don&#8217;t put yourself in a situation where you are involved in the legal system! Its not that hard to be a law abiding citizen either you know!!</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Sorry folks, we had to close comments on this one.  The dead horse is buried.</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/12/24/chief-updates-on-copper-cases/#comment-76128</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But, when a law abiding citizen is ensnared by nitwitted law enforcement, including popos, prosecutors, and numbskull judges, it stays on the Idaho Repository forever, including a dismissal!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, when a law abiding citizen is ensnared by nitwitted law enforcement, including popos, prosecutors, and numbskull judges, it stays on the Idaho Repository forever, including a dismissal!!!!!</p>
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		By: Sal Nez		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/12/24/chief-updates-on-copper-cases/#comment-76047</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sal Nez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 05:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Read the article closer, it said, &quot;The Chief issued a statement at that time recognizing professional standards of behavior from officers are essential to maintaining the public confidence and trust necessary for public and officer safety.&quot; He did not call her professional for her action. He actually said then, &quot;...the officer’s behavior did not live up to the policy and expectations of the department&quot;. In a nut shell, she messed up and she is getting disciplined for it. In the immortal words of the editor, lets try to let this dead horse be buried.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the article closer, it said, &#8220;The Chief issued a statement at that time recognizing professional standards of behavior from officers are essential to maintaining the public confidence and trust necessary for public and officer safety.&#8221; He did not call her professional for her action. He actually said then, &#8220;&#8230;the officer’s behavior did not live up to the policy and expectations of the department&#8221;. In a nut shell, she messed up and she is getting disciplined for it. In the immortal words of the editor, lets try to let this dead horse be buried.</p>
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		By: remain calm, continue forward		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/12/24/chief-updates-on-copper-cases/#comment-76028</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[remain calm, continue forward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 02:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done but you are giving him too much credit.  The bad copper resigned according to the article.  Forced resignation was the term used, but translate that  to mean that whatever investigation, if any,  BPD conducted was over with.  He got caught. He&#039;s gone.  The Feds appear to have stepped in long after the fact, not at the request of any leader in the BPD.  WHY?  If bad copper was no longer employed by BPD and hastened out the door as quickly as possible, then what were the feds looking at?  Bad copper is no longer his employee so why does he care?  Unless of course bad copper averted an indictment in some manner (read deal), Masterson sure isn&#039;t talking.  Warrant issues.  Ok.  Bad copper? Who?  And if he didn&#039;t initiate the investigation why is he insinuating it&#039;s over?  I love the term &quot;cooperated fully &quot;as well.  That can be interpreted in a number of different ways.  Until I hear a federal officer announce that whatever they are investigating is complete, i surely don&#039;t believe this guy.  You should at the very least be curious about the murky waters. Feds spending 18 months on an investigation should merit some hot shot reporter&#039;s interest.

And as for our youtube heroine, civil rights violations are investigated by the FBI.  It&#039;s safe to say that the sgt was not under any threat of criminal indictment.  Which forces us to ask, then why did GCPD, not exactly the premiere law enforcement agency in Idaho get stuck with calling the ball on this one.  It doesn&#039;t matter.  The 23 year female sgt skated, she knows it and is thanking her lucky starts I am sure.  Of course you still have not explained how GCPD can call her actions &quot;unprofessional while the ever so articulate chief of the BPD gets on TV and calls her actions &quot;professional&quot;.  Hard to figure out what his standards are.

Thanks for your service.

EDITOR NOTE--Let&#039;s try to let this dead horse be buried.  At the risk of defending the Chief for a TV bite I didn&#039;t see, regardless of what he SAID, I am sure he meant her PROFESSIONAL acts were not &quot;professional&quot; CONDUCT.  Professional acts by a lawyer, copper, doctor or teacher (under &quot;color of office&quot;) can be UNprofessional.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done but you are giving him too much credit.  The bad copper resigned according to the article.  Forced resignation was the term used, but translate that  to mean that whatever investigation, if any,  BPD conducted was over with.  He got caught. He&#8217;s gone.  The Feds appear to have stepped in long after the fact, not at the request of any leader in the BPD.  WHY?  If bad copper was no longer employed by BPD and hastened out the door as quickly as possible, then what were the feds looking at?  Bad copper is no longer his employee so why does he care?  Unless of course bad copper averted an indictment in some manner (read deal), Masterson sure isn&#8217;t talking.  Warrant issues.  Ok.  Bad copper? Who?  And if he didn&#8217;t initiate the investigation why is he insinuating it&#8217;s over?  I love the term &#8220;cooperated fully &#8220;as well.  That can be interpreted in a number of different ways.  Until I hear a federal officer announce that whatever they are investigating is complete, i surely don&#8217;t believe this guy.  You should at the very least be curious about the murky waters. Feds spending 18 months on an investigation should merit some hot shot reporter&#8217;s interest.</p>
<p>And as for our youtube heroine, civil rights violations are investigated by the FBI.  It&#8217;s safe to say that the sgt was not under any threat of criminal indictment.  Which forces us to ask, then why did GCPD, not exactly the premiere law enforcement agency in Idaho get stuck with calling the ball on this one.  It doesn&#8217;t matter.  The 23 year female sgt skated, she knows it and is thanking her lucky starts I am sure.  Of course you still have not explained how GCPD can call her actions &#8220;unprofessional while the ever so articulate chief of the BPD gets on TV and calls her actions &#8220;professional&#8221;.  Hard to figure out what his standards are.</p>
<p>Thanks for your service.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Let&#8217;s try to let this dead horse be buried.  At the risk of defending the Chief for a TV bite I didn&#8217;t see, regardless of what he SAID, I am sure he meant her PROFESSIONAL acts were not &#8220;professional&#8221; CONDUCT.  Professional acts by a lawyer, copper, doctor or teacher (under &#8220;color of office&#8221;) can be UNprofessional.</p>
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		By: No Brainer		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/12/24/chief-updates-on-copper-cases/#comment-76015</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No Brainer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Firstly, I will calmy respond by truthfully telling you that I do not work for the BPD, the ACSO, GCPD, or any other law enforcemnet agency in ADA County. You did peg the nail on the head when you said &quot;Officer&quot;. You are right, just not Ada County.

Secondly, the reason why you have another agency investigate alleged criminal acts by another agency is so that it will be impartial and there will be no accusations that you influenced the investigation. I don&#039;t see how you are going to get around having someone from outside the law enforcement community investigate and charge a criminal act when they don&#039;t have the authority to do so. Who else has that authority that you think should do it?

I just think you guys are going to complain no matter what and you don&#039;t seem to have an acceptable solution that will make you happy. It&#039;s pretty obvious you are very biased against Masterson and no matter what he does is apparently wrong. He&#039;s doing what you are asking and still you are kicking him. I would tell you to pound sand if you did that to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I will calmy respond by truthfully telling you that I do not work for the BPD, the ACSO, GCPD, or any other law enforcemnet agency in ADA County. You did peg the nail on the head when you said &#8220;Officer&#8221;. You are right, just not Ada County.</p>
<p>Secondly, the reason why you have another agency investigate alleged criminal acts by another agency is so that it will be impartial and there will be no accusations that you influenced the investigation. I don&#8217;t see how you are going to get around having someone from outside the law enforcement community investigate and charge a criminal act when they don&#8217;t have the authority to do so. Who else has that authority that you think should do it?</p>
<p>I just think you guys are going to complain no matter what and you don&#8217;t seem to have an acceptable solution that will make you happy. It&#8217;s pretty obvious you are very biased against Masterson and no matter what he does is apparently wrong. He&#8217;s doing what you are asking and still you are kicking him. I would tell you to pound sand if you did that to me.</p>
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		By: remain calm, continue forward		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2013/12/24/chief-updates-on-copper-cases/#comment-75973</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[remain calm, continue forward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 14:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blame isn&#039;t an issue.  Responsible behavior and the truth is.  We are powerless to really do anything.  So we standby and watch as the power brokers in this department tell us to ignore the man behind the curtain, to not believe our eyes or ears or even our common sense and move on.  

At any rate, for a federal agency to spend 18months &quot;investigating&quot; a municipal agency is news in itself. Maybe one day someone will report it.  A dirty cop is cornered , the FBI steps in and for 18 months we in this city hear nothing.  Right Chief.  There&#039;s nothing  there.

Word games.  My money is still on the Feds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blame isn&#8217;t an issue.  Responsible behavior and the truth is.  We are powerless to really do anything.  So we standby and watch as the power brokers in this department tell us to ignore the man behind the curtain, to not believe our eyes or ears or even our common sense and move on.  </p>
<p>At any rate, for a federal agency to spend 18months &#8220;investigating&#8221; a municipal agency is news in itself. Maybe one day someone will report it.  A dirty cop is cornered , the FBI steps in and for 18 months we in this city hear nothing.  Right Chief.  There&#8217;s nothing  there.</p>
<p>Word games.  My money is still on the Feds.</p>
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		By: Thanks no brainer..		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thanks no brainer..]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[…and if you would can you please explain what &quot;unprofessional professional&quot; behavior means.  Your chief seems rather….confused.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>…and if you would can you please explain what &#8220;unprofessional professional&#8221; behavior means.  Your chief seems rather….confused.</p>
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		By: Thanks no brainer..		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thanks no brainer..]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 01:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gee.  Thanks Officer.  You completely missed the point.  You have definitely found your niche.

If BPD is incapable of cleaning their own laundry, maybe it is time for a new crew of leaders.  The Chief&#039;s non-denial denial denying whatever he is denying took place requiring a federal investigation is meaningless.  It would be nice if he explained what the issue was requiring a federal agency to investigate since apparently there is &quot;nothing there&quot; but we are now taking his word that whatever it was, it&#039;s all ok and don&#039;t worry about it.  All we are told is it revolves around warrant issues. BY WHOM? If your attitude is reflective of the zombie like state of our law officers in this city, God help us.  There is obviously an issue here if another agency is required to investigate it( and that refers to both the female sgt and the fed investigation).  As for the sgt, there are only a couple of plausible explanations: what she did was criminal ( in my view it was) or the Chief didn&#039;t want to be ultimately responsible for ANY decision made .  

If it is anything less then why did GCPD have to get involved?  It smells like someone wants the 6 figure income without the responsibility that goes with it. That is disturbing.  Why not appoint a civilian to run the show then
Of course it doesn&#039;t matter.  It will be lumped under &quot;personnel issues&quot; if asked  what the punishment was for the sgt.  Of course I am wondering if CRIMINAL activity on the part of officers falls under the definition of &quot;personnel issues&quot; or not. 

And contrary to your accusation, it is not a question of self satisfaction: it is about the truth and the transparency of an organization that is anything but.

EDITOR NOTE--Perhaps this previous post will shed some light. https://boiseguardian.com/2013/03/10/lawmen-circle-the-wagons-in-anticipation-of-criminal-charges/   

And this one  https://boiseguardian.com/2012/06/25/boise-copper-banned-from-idaho-law-enforcement/
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee.  Thanks Officer.  You completely missed the point.  You have definitely found your niche.</p>
<p>If BPD is incapable of cleaning their own laundry, maybe it is time for a new crew of leaders.  The Chief&#8217;s non-denial denial denying whatever he is denying took place requiring a federal investigation is meaningless.  It would be nice if he explained what the issue was requiring a federal agency to investigate since apparently there is &#8220;nothing there&#8221; but we are now taking his word that whatever it was, it&#8217;s all ok and don&#8217;t worry about it.  All we are told is it revolves around warrant issues. BY WHOM? If your attitude is reflective of the zombie like state of our law officers in this city, God help us.  There is obviously an issue here if another agency is required to investigate it( and that refers to both the female sgt and the fed investigation).  As for the sgt, there are only a couple of plausible explanations: what she did was criminal ( in my view it was) or the Chief didn&#8217;t want to be ultimately responsible for ANY decision made .  </p>
<p>If it is anything less then why did GCPD have to get involved?  It smells like someone wants the 6 figure income without the responsibility that goes with it. That is disturbing.  Why not appoint a civilian to run the show then<br />
Of course it doesn&#8217;t matter.  It will be lumped under &#8220;personnel issues&#8221; if asked  what the punishment was for the sgt.  Of course I am wondering if CRIMINAL activity on the part of officers falls under the definition of &#8220;personnel issues&#8221; or not. </p>
<p>And contrary to your accusation, it is not a question of self satisfaction: it is about the truth and the transparency of an organization that is anything but.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Perhaps this previous post will shed some light. <a href="https://boiseguardian.com/2013/03/10/lawmen-circle-the-wagons-in-anticipation-of-criminal-charges/" rel="ugc">https://boiseguardian.com/2013/03/10/lawmen-circle-the-wagons-in-anticipation-of-criminal-charges/</a>   </p>
<p>And this one  <a href="https://boiseguardian.com/2012/06/25/boise-copper-banned-from-idaho-law-enforcement/" rel="ugc">https://boiseguardian.com/2012/06/25/boise-copper-banned-from-idaho-law-enforcement/</a></p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod in SE Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Over the last 15-20 years the BPD has gone from ALWAYS getting bad press (for over-reacting in almost every situation imaginable) to what we have today, a mixed bag of good and bad.  You have to agree that that is an improvement.

However, the militarization of the BPD (and every other law enforcement agency worldwide) needs to be reversed.

Local law enforcement agencies cannot be allowed to use drones.

And Chief, please lean on the ACHD to get rid of those flashing yellow left turn signals, before people get killed, if they haven&#039;t already.

One more thing, stop the fixation on speeders and focus on red light runners, who are far more dangerous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last 15-20 years the BPD has gone from ALWAYS getting bad press (for over-reacting in almost every situation imaginable) to what we have today, a mixed bag of good and bad.  You have to agree that that is an improvement.</p>
<p>However, the militarization of the BPD (and every other law enforcement agency worldwide) needs to be reversed.</p>
<p>Local law enforcement agencies cannot be allowed to use drones.</p>
<p>And Chief, please lean on the ACHD to get rid of those flashing yellow left turn signals, before people get killed, if they haven&#8217;t already.</p>
<p>One more thing, stop the fixation on speeders and focus on red light runners, who are far more dangerous.</p>
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		By: No Brainer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No Brainer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So what is the acceptable answer?
BPD has someone else do the investigation of the female Sgt. You complain. If they would have done it internally you would have complained. So who investigates? I guess there is no making you happy there huh? 

The civil rights violation allegation was investigated by the Feds. Civil Rights violations are a federal matter and not within the purview of the state. The Feds opted not to prosecute. That is their choice and BPD has no say in the matter. BPD took the most severe action possible. The employee was fired, and the state decertified him. And yet you still aren&#039;t happy that BPD has not done enough to him. 

And then there is the issue of the loose dog attacking the cop. I guess he should have waited until the dog mauled him before doing something about it. Maybe all cops should be required to be shot by people pointing guns at them too before being allowed to respond. You people kill me. 

Seems to me you are all out for blood and nothing less. Shall we hang the accused officers from the highest tree in the kingdom by their livers? That&#039;s what it seems you are all after. 100% cop haters. There is no making you happy so why bother. In your eyes all cops are guilty until proven innocent and any action they take is wrong. If I was Masterson I would simply put you on ignore mode.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what is the acceptable answer?<br />
BPD has someone else do the investigation of the female Sgt. You complain. If they would have done it internally you would have complained. So who investigates? I guess there is no making you happy there huh? </p>
<p>The civil rights violation allegation was investigated by the Feds. Civil Rights violations are a federal matter and not within the purview of the state. The Feds opted not to prosecute. That is their choice and BPD has no say in the matter. BPD took the most severe action possible. The employee was fired, and the state decertified him. And yet you still aren&#8217;t happy that BPD has not done enough to him. </p>
<p>And then there is the issue of the loose dog attacking the cop. I guess he should have waited until the dog mauled him before doing something about it. Maybe all cops should be required to be shot by people pointing guns at them too before being allowed to respond. You people kill me. </p>
<p>Seems to me you are all out for blood and nothing less. Shall we hang the accused officers from the highest tree in the kingdom by their livers? That&#8217;s what it seems you are all after. 100% cop haters. There is no making you happy so why bother. In your eyes all cops are guilty until proven innocent and any action they take is wrong. If I was Masterson I would simply put you on ignore mode.</p>
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