Comments on: Governments Run Amok

By: Zippo

Zippo — Thu, 06 Mar 2014 03:43:35 +0000

Easterner, it would be soooo nice if the represented they constituent. They do not… and knowingly so. They represent whoever gives them the most money and perks. And in the case of some of the supreme leaders like BO, Reid, and Polossi, It becomes completely about their power hungry narcissistic personalities.

The Jay Leno skit is truth. The average person really is that dim and apathetic, thus allowing the electorate to follow the money.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Thu, 06 Mar 2014 01:44:23 +0000

Crazy is as crazy represents.
Legislators may be getting crazy, but they only represent the constituents. Like it or not, the majority of people are a bit wacked, especially when it comes to emotional issues.

It’s like the Jay Leno skits of street interviews—

By: rick

rick — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 19:07:08 +0000

I really think that’s what is intended… the only public land that I can think of that would qualify as a production would be range land leased to ranchers and if it leased it is no longer free access. Not many farmers/ranchers produce any thing on purely public lands. I think the key here in (produce) leaves out highways, parks and the like.

By: yeahbut

yeahbut — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 16:59:51 +0000

S1337 The Agricultural Interference Bill ( now law ) was reorganized in its final version so the video and photography prohibitions are limited to non-public locations and absence of the owners permission to enter or and photograph. I think that’s reasonable.

Dare I think all my letter and comment writing about this actually had an effect!?!

By: rick

rick — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 15:59:05 +0000

I am confused, then what is the problem? If it restricts someone from trespassing and recording where is the foul? We in Idaho as well as 37 other state have always been able to record both audio and video with only the consent of 1 party. I guess I am confused as to why you are against ii.

BTW in the spirit of full disclosure the posts from both rick and Rick are both me…. only difference is the device I am on

By: yeahbu

yeahbu — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:22:42 +0000

Rick, SB1298 includes this language…..

13 (viii) Transporting agricultural products to or from an agriculcultural facility

That bill was replaced by SB1337 which is the version passed into law. That bill omitted the transportation citation so you are right…..my example is no longer valid.

Your comment about mistreatment of a sugar beet illuminates the issue I tried to raise; people are focused on just high-profile animal abuse, but this bill ( now this law) extends to cover way more than abuse situations and prohibits citizens from using photography to document almost any situation occurring within very broadly defined agricultural settings.

By: Bus Rider

Bus Rider — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 05:57:27 +0000

Las Vegas Rebel – with all due respect, I disagree with your point about the demographic of those who choose to exercise their freedom of assembly, and I especially dismiss your allusion that a former state senator willingly got local senior citizens into harm’s way. There have been several bouts of people incarcerated for such an obstruction; people whose ages range far beyond the limited perspective you offer about “abuse” of the “elderly.” If my 80-year-old Godmother and 75-year-old mother lived nearby, they would gladly volunteer to link arms with anyone else who felt the Legislature was ignorant to the pleas of those who should be treated fairly.

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 02:49:55 +0000

Eric I am looking at the bill right now. SB1298 correct? it talks a lot about entering an ag production facility by force threat or misrepresentation or without the owners consent. You are right it does say public lands used for ag production, not public roads.

Yeahbut you may need to read it also… and not listen to what the guy next door tells you

I guess those opposed to this feel that if someone does not like how you treat your dog they should have the right to force their way onto your property to get evidence…. remember… only the cops can do that and they do it way too often.

By: rick

rick — Tue, 04 Mar 2014 17:06:28 +0000

Maltreatment of a sugar beet

By: Eric T.

Eric T. — Tue, 04 Mar 2014 08:18:42 +0000

Rick, please read the bill. It includes ag activities on private AND public lands. It is a very broadly written bill. While you may dismiss the beet truck scenario without knowing the contents, language, and intent of the bill, the poster is accurately portraying a possible outcome given the language in the bill.

Go to idaho.gov and click on legislative bill center. You can search by subject or bill number.