Comments on: Porn Flick Features Idaho Guv As Crooked Sheriff

By: Rick

Rick — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 02:53:17 +0000

ok Mr marine… look at any job with canyon or ada counties all listings require a “clean” background. Look at any job in health care all will require a “clean” background. Look at any job in a bank… it too will require a “clean” back ground. I have even seen jobs posted on the dept of labors site one in particular specifically stated nothing on the back ground except “minor traffic offences… and a DUI is not a minor traffic offence”

As you said you have been employed for 30 years… probably at the same job and have not looked. I have filled out several since graduating college.. most have specifically asked if you have ever been arrested, have any convictions felony or misdemeanor, or if you have ever had a withheld judgment. I’m sorry to rain on your parade and tell an ex-marine he is wrong… but when you say none ask about misdemeanors you are dead wrong. Look at any LE or job at IDOC. Not all ask and not all will disqualify for any misdemeanor but certain misdemeanors are an automatic DQ for a lot of job. I provide services to ALOT of people who have a real hard time finding work simply because of a misdemeanor in their back ground so I get real worked up when I hear people say misdemeanors do not hurt… they do and unfortunately the system… as usual still thinks like you.

By: Rizo

Rizo — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 02:30:01 +0000

Bottom line is Otter and his coorporation should seriously review their own eithic of past and present and consider what truly is Felon and not. This may take an act of congress but if it’s not review we will have half the state of Idaho with a felon charge one way or another.

By: Rizo

Rizo — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 01:06:33 +0000

Perhaps it is a matter of interpretation as applications only ask have you ever been charged with a Felony.
Perhaps if an individual employer requests to create their own application that is inclusive of misdemeanor is another story. Many would not have employee’s if that were case as even a traffic ticket is a misdemeanor, dog a large to add where you are sited.
Felon is a whole different picture as even some landlords won’t rent to any when not even know the Why’s of it.

By: Eric T.

Eric T. — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 20:43:35 +0000

Link to a Zamzows job application. Note at the bottom “felony” conviction question. No mention of misdeamonor.

http://www.zamzows.com/Online_Application_Page_2/default.htm

By: L.D.

L.D. — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 19:40:27 +0000

okay MR. has all the answers.
If your so sure of yourself, prove it

By: rick

rick — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 18:34:22 +0000

Wow…your still wrong..lol

By: L.D.

L.D. — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 18:26:00 +0000

Rick,
Clearly you have never applied for a job, or your comment about having to fill out a misdemeanor conviction wouldn’t have happened.
I’ve been a proletarian for over thirty years, and EVERY job application specifically asks for FELONY conviction, not misdemeanor.

By: Rick

Rick — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 17:29:42 +0000

LD. I would like to see a job application where you can omit a misdemeanor. That is incorrect. Most of the job apps I have filled out recently specifically say arrest… not conviction. I am not sure where you got you info for misdemeanors but it is so untrue it is ridiculous.

By: L.D.

L.D. — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 01:14:33 +0000

Editor,
I wholeheartedly think that the use of inmates to work for a private company, (what ever that company be, either a farmer or ICC), Is equivalent to slavery. The inmates do not get a say in the workload, nor can they leave and find better work, and as any criminal justice major (which I used to be but gave it up) can tell you, if they complain they are automatically discredited, so their complaints fall on deaf ears.
As the hypocrisy of our state. I served 6 years in the Marine Corps, and got up to the rank of Sergeant. When I was promoted I was brought into the Major’s office and he gave me a briefing on his expectations of me. The most important of which was that I was never to ask anything of my junior Marines that either I have not done before, or am not willing to do myself. This was something that I strictly adhered to, as one does not cross Major Dubois and it just seemed logical.
And now as a civilian, I pay close attention to our leaders and see that not one of them act in a manner even close to that. It seems like they operate in an isolated vacuum, where the rules do not apply to them, but if we break them they hammer us like we are all life long criminals.
Hypocrisy seems to be the standard. But what does one expect in a state where they generate millions each year off of the incarceration of human beings, and hold them 200% longer than the national average fro crimes that would not deem prison or felon worthy in the rest of the nation.

By: L.D.

L.D. — Sat, 08 Mar 2014 23:37:59 +0000

Rick,
Felons have “programs” but they are designed to get jobs like those sign wavers at the street corner. They are by and large automatically disqualified from anything that might be quality. It is like a permanent “off” switch that prevents any form of success in life. Ask Tim at the Idaho D. of L.
Misdemeanors actually can move past their “conviction” and they don’t have to put it down on an application. Thus opening up the opportunity for future success.

my comment was more directed at the hypocritical standpoint of our leadership, where they can get drunk, steal cars, steal hundreds of thousands as a prosecuting attorney and not once pay for their crimes, and ask for forgiveness, yet in turn never give forgiveness to those who actually might deserve it. Seems to me to be a double standard.

EDITOR NOTE–To add to the debate, our take was the hypocrisy of passing a law only for farmers and allowing what one commenter called “slave labor.” The law is poorly worded and should not benefit private sector businesses, let alone a single sector.