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		By: Blaskowitz		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/16/trooper-or-dog-has-defective-nose/#comment-88728</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaskowitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2014 21:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yea yea yea...and for every one cop that got a ride home, there are hundreds of non cops on child porn sites, lying about disability, doing dope, lying on their income tax statements.  I mean the list goes on and on. Until you focus on the real problem, the cop bashing is a waste of time  How about focusing on the REAL corruption: the ones at the top that turn a blind eye to the real problems in the police department.  It seems as usual that the real issue here is getting high without getting hassled.  If you have Oregon or Colorado plates, you are fair game.  This cop should have just said it like it is.  Recreational, medical or whatever.  it is still illegal in the eyes of the law that counts at this point.  Time for my medicinal whiskey.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea yea yea&#8230;and for every one cop that got a ride home, there are hundreds of non cops on child porn sites, lying about disability, doing dope, lying on their income tax statements.  I mean the list goes on and on. Until you focus on the real problem, the cop bashing is a waste of time  How about focusing on the REAL corruption: the ones at the top that turn a blind eye to the real problems in the police department.  It seems as usual that the real issue here is getting high without getting hassled.  If you have Oregon or Colorado plates, you are fair game.  This cop should have just said it like it is.  Recreational, medical or whatever.  it is still illegal in the eyes of the law that counts at this point.  Time for my medicinal whiskey.</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/16/trooper-or-dog-has-defective-nose/#comment-88689</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2014 04:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interested.... you do not have to tell me how bad &quot;some&quot; cops act... I was a reserve with a sheriff&#039;s dept in NM while in the military.. In one sat night we pulled over 2 individuals for DUI... the first we hooked up... the second was an off duty cop... I drove his car home.. with him in the passenger seat... not a word was said... I have many other stories... no one has to tell me how they behave... 

I don&#039;t even want to go into the things that prosecutors get away with]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interested&#8230;. you do not have to tell me how bad &#8220;some&#8221; cops act&#8230; I was a reserve with a sheriff&#8217;s dept in NM while in the military.. In one sat night we pulled over 2 individuals for DUI&#8230; the first we hooked up&#8230; the second was an off duty cop&#8230; I drove his car home.. with him in the passenger seat&#8230; not a word was said&#8230; I have many other stories&#8230; no one has to tell me how they behave&#8230; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even want to go into the things that prosecutors get away with</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/16/trooper-or-dog-has-defective-nose/#comment-88681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2014 22:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rick,

I was pulled over one time in Garden Valley for doing 45 in a 35 and had drank ONE Coors Original and hour and a half earlier as I pulled off my hiking boots after a hard backpack.  I had deposited the empty bottle in the passenger seat beside me.

As you might expect, the officer &quot;smelled alcohol&quot;, saw the beer bottle, and so forth.  An Idaho Trooper was summoned by the local coppers so I could be tag teamed.  I refused to perform the &quot;sobriety&quot; tests as I was hungry, exhausted, it was 11:00 pm, I just wanted to get home and get to bed, and I do not care for stupid cops.

So, I was arrested, handcuffed, and driven to Horseshoe Bend by two female cops, to be given the breathalyzer.  

In Horseshoe Bend, I took the breathalyzer, which registered &quot;NIL&quot;, not once, not twice, but thrice!!

Then, back to my car in Garden Valley, which the cops had threatened to impound.

On the way, the Idaho State Trooper called the lady coppers to inquire about the results of the breathalyzer.  When informed that the results were &quot;NIL&quot;, he replied, &quot;there is something wrong with his eyes&quot;!!!

I will repeat:  I do not care for stupid cops!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>I was pulled over one time in Garden Valley for doing 45 in a 35 and had drank ONE Coors Original and hour and a half earlier as I pulled off my hiking boots after a hard backpack.  I had deposited the empty bottle in the passenger seat beside me.</p>
<p>As you might expect, the officer &#8220;smelled alcohol&#8221;, saw the beer bottle, and so forth.  An Idaho Trooper was summoned by the local coppers so I could be tag teamed.  I refused to perform the &#8220;sobriety&#8221; tests as I was hungry, exhausted, it was 11:00 pm, I just wanted to get home and get to bed, and I do not care for stupid cops.</p>
<p>So, I was arrested, handcuffed, and driven to Horseshoe Bend by two female cops, to be given the breathalyzer.  </p>
<p>In Horseshoe Bend, I took the breathalyzer, which registered &#8220;NIL&#8221;, not once, not twice, but thrice!!</p>
<p>Then, back to my car in Garden Valley, which the cops had threatened to impound.</p>
<p>On the way, the Idaho State Trooper called the lady coppers to inquire about the results of the breathalyzer.  When informed that the results were &#8220;NIL&#8221;, he replied, &#8220;there is something wrong with his eyes&#8221;!!!</p>
<p>I will repeat:  I do not care for stupid cops!!!</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/16/trooper-or-dog-has-defective-nose/#comment-88679</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2014 22:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This case highlights many issues.

One issue is that law enforcement, including the prosecutors, and many in the judicial community, believe that &quot;probable cause&quot; is a legal concept that is only limited by the imagination of the official seeking to establish such &quot;probable cause&quot;.

To further this concept, &quot;probable cause&quot; always exists in the officer&#039;s or prosecutor&#039;s mind, and he or she merely needs to be creative to establish such cause.  For example, &quot;I stopped you because you failed to signal your turn&quot;, or &quot;you were varying your speed excessively&quot;, or &quot;you crossed the centerline&quot;, or &quot;I saw marijuana smoke coming out of your car window, and I know marijuana smoke when I see it&quot;, and so forth.

Further, we all know that cops, prosecutors, court officials, judges, and all the rest all tag team together to make this little gig work for them, and not for the law abiding citizens.

Would anyone care to challenge me on this?  

Further, if one is ever able to win a case and successfully establish that his civil and constitutional rights were violated regarding a stop, an arrest, a prosecution, jailing, and so forth without probable cause, in most cases, there is relatively downside for the law enforcement officials, prosecutors, or others involved.  The damages in most cases are not terribly substantial, there is a bit of wristslapping, and that is usually the end of it.

So, the system is very asymmetrical in that the cops and so forth can violate your rights, waste your valuable time, embarrass and humiliate you, cost you significant time and money, and so forth, but there is not a lot you can do to them in most cases.

So, they continue to do what they do.  Unless laws are changed, it will continue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case highlights many issues.</p>
<p>One issue is that law enforcement, including the prosecutors, and many in the judicial community, believe that &#8220;probable cause&#8221; is a legal concept that is only limited by the imagination of the official seeking to establish such &#8220;probable cause&#8221;.</p>
<p>To further this concept, &#8220;probable cause&#8221; always exists in the officer&#8217;s or prosecutor&#8217;s mind, and he or she merely needs to be creative to establish such cause.  For example, &#8220;I stopped you because you failed to signal your turn&#8221;, or &#8220;you were varying your speed excessively&#8221;, or &#8220;you crossed the centerline&#8221;, or &#8220;I saw marijuana smoke coming out of your car window, and I know marijuana smoke when I see it&#8221;, and so forth.</p>
<p>Further, we all know that cops, prosecutors, court officials, judges, and all the rest all tag team together to make this little gig work for them, and not for the law abiding citizens.</p>
<p>Would anyone care to challenge me on this?  </p>
<p>Further, if one is ever able to win a case and successfully establish that his civil and constitutional rights were violated regarding a stop, an arrest, a prosecution, jailing, and so forth without probable cause, in most cases, there is relatively downside for the law enforcement officials, prosecutors, or others involved.  The damages in most cases are not terribly substantial, there is a bit of wristslapping, and that is usually the end of it.</p>
<p>So, the system is very asymmetrical in that the cops and so forth can violate your rights, waste your valuable time, embarrass and humiliate you, cost you significant time and money, and so forth, but there is not a lot you can do to them in most cases.</p>
<p>So, they continue to do what they do.  Unless laws are changed, it will continue.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/16/trooper-or-dog-has-defective-nose/#comment-88606</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2014 00:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[rick, why do you care to have a grain of respect for a blatant liar and violator of civil rights?  Years of service just means years to perfect methods of violating rights.  

Look up what happened to the honest jailer in Elmore Co.  Cop bounced woman&#039;s head off a cement wall... honest cop tells on him, honest cop fired.  

We got a wild pig problem in this country and it ain&#039;t the kind that eats my crops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rick, why do you care to have a grain of respect for a blatant liar and violator of civil rights?  Years of service just means years to perfect methods of violating rights.  </p>
<p>Look up what happened to the honest jailer in Elmore Co.  Cop bounced woman&#8217;s head off a cement wall&#8230; honest cop tells on him, honest cop fired.  </p>
<p>We got a wild pig problem in this country and it ain&#8217;t the kind that eats my crops.</p>
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		By: blaskowitz		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/16/trooper-or-dog-has-defective-nose/#comment-88581</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blaskowitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2014 15:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How about this then: &quot;The (trooper) needs to make a simple apology for his actions to (this individual).  He is a (veteran) officer of this department and had a pretty good service record in several assignments.  For this rather minor (confrontation) to be his lasting legacy would be a travesty&quot;.  

Seems like i read that somewhere on this site.  Maybe standards are applied slightly differently depending on age, gender and affiliation.  Or maybe just plain old personal feelings play a major role in EVERYONE&quot;S opinions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this then: &#8220;The (trooper) needs to make a simple apology for his actions to (this individual).  He is a (veteran) officer of this department and had a pretty good service record in several assignments.  For this rather minor (confrontation) to be his lasting legacy would be a travesty&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Seems like i read that somewhere on this site.  Maybe standards are applied slightly differently depending on age, gender and affiliation.  Or maybe just plain old personal feelings play a major role in EVERYONE&#8221;S opinions.</p>
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		By: rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/16/trooper-or-dog-has-defective-nose/#comment-88580</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zippo.. while I agree with your assessment of the cops behavior these are the comment that will get the thread shut down. Not that any discussion here or any where else will have a positive effect on how LE operates.. at least we can vent here]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zippo.. while I agree with your assessment of the cops behavior these are the comment that will get the thread shut down. Not that any discussion here or any where else will have a positive effect on how LE operates.. at least we can vent here</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/16/trooper-or-dog-has-defective-nose/#comment-88552</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2014 06:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tropper is just typical a$$hole cop who has no respect for civil liberties/rights of the ordinary people.  Very surprised they didn&#039;t plant drugs to get a bust.  That happens frequently too.

The American police state is a very profitable business run by the a$$holes we repeatedly elect.  It&#039;s just another system of taxation. Here&#039;s the proof:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.png]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tropper is just typical a$$hole cop who has no respect for civil liberties/rights of the ordinary people.  Very surprised they didn&#8217;t plant drugs to get a bust.  That happens frequently too.</p>
<p>The American police state is a very profitable business run by the a$$holes we repeatedly elect.  It&#8217;s just another system of taxation. Here&#8217;s the proof:</p>
<p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.png" rel="nofollow ugc">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.png</a></p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/16/trooper-or-dog-has-defective-nose/#comment-88523</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 22:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What scares me the most about this particular incident is this... the guy was DAMN near 70 years old....it is really scary to me to think about what would... not might...would have happened if this guy would have said I do not have to stand hear and be belittled in this manner you little thug.

And I am sorry folks that is exactly what this cops was acting like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What scares me the most about this particular incident is this&#8230; the guy was DAMN near 70 years old&#8230;.it is really scary to me to think about what would&#8230; not might&#8230;would have happened if this guy would have said I do not have to stand hear and be belittled in this manner you little thug.</p>
<p>And I am sorry folks that is exactly what this cops was acting like.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 19:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the guy had really been smoking weed, as alleged, he wouldn&#039;t&#039;ve stopped at the rest stop; he would&#039;ve gone another 5 miles up the road to that first convenience store to stock up on Doritos and Mountain Dew.

Are the cops ignoring the people going 85, and instead concentrating on the people going LESS than the speed limit?  Based on my observation, that is another behavior they could &quot;profile&quot; if potheads are the primary law-enforcement target these days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the guy had really been smoking weed, as alleged, he wouldn&#8217;t&#8217;ve stopped at the rest stop; he would&#8217;ve gone another 5 miles up the road to that first convenience store to stock up on Doritos and Mountain Dew.</p>
<p>Are the cops ignoring the people going 85, and instead concentrating on the people going LESS than the speed limit?  Based on my observation, that is another behavior they could &#8220;profile&#8221; if potheads are the primary law-enforcement target these days.</p>
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