Comments on: Cycles And Cars: Watch Out For Each OTher! https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/ A different slant on the news. Sat, 26 Apr 2014 01:35:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Clancy https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/#comment-89154 Fri, 25 Apr 2014 22:20:52 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10965#comment-89154 Let’s end the $$$ debate. Please read the current budget for any questions (page 5 has a nice graph) http://www.achdidaho.org/Departments/Administration/Docs/2014Budget/FY2014_budget_final.pdf

The I didn’t see argument after a cyclist is hit, should be automatic admission of guilt. The driver in the death of Olivia Schnacker used that defense. If the sun was in here eyes, she should of been driving to the conditions, especially since Olivia and her sisters were crossing through a major crosswalk with flashing lights.

EDITOR NOTE–Clancy, I agree. Time to shut down the debate as it has gone off course.

]]> By: Easterner https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/#comment-89147 Fri, 25 Apr 2014 19:44:25 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10965#comment-89147 Rick, please trust us all… You are not spot on.
The point you are missing is, you have a bad attitude about sharing the road.

From ACHD: Property taxes remain the single largest General Fund revenue of the Highway District.

Property taxes Rick.
Sales tax and impact fees also go into the ACHD budget.

Pretend someone doesn’t have a car at all. They still pay their fair share to maintain our roads, and our sidewalks.
Now the 2nd part is they ARE paying for the road and their impact is almost ZERO. They don’t make potholes, they don’t put much wear and tear on the asphalt- like you do. Hopefully, Rick you can recognize you were wrong and now appreciate being informed.

Next, I’m gonna guess that it’s people without a clue about the law- they cry about bicycles not stopping at stop signs- that create the biggest hazard to other people on or near the road (and the people talking on their phones). They are the biggest hazard because they have a bad attitude while driving a lethal vehicle.

Btw Rick, if I walk to work, I’m not required to have any “roadside insurance”. And you’re really gonna hate the new bike boxes… good luck. 🙂

]]> By: Easterner https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/#comment-89146 Fri, 25 Apr 2014 19:07:37 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10965#comment-89146 Rick, once again you have narrow scope.

A cyclist coming up to an intersection in a bike lane is perfectly legal and highly likely. A cylist coming up to any intersection, has the proper position to on the right side of the road. I offer you the Idaho law:
(1) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing
shall ride as close as practicable* to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:

fyi – the exceptions do no include riding next to Rick.

]]> By: Rick https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/#comment-89143 Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:06:54 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10965#comment-89143 What point am I missing? I am pretty sure I am spot on.

]]> By: Zefareu Privatis https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/#comment-89137 Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:38:55 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10965#comment-89137 Thank you, Bikeboy, for being reasoned and patient, even when others seem to miss the point. As a former year-round transporational cyclist in Boise, I commend your simple urge for everyone on the road (and I do mean everyone) to JUST PAY ATTENTION. Mindfulness saves lives everywhere, and perhaps nowhere more obviously that on the road. (And, as a side answer to those who wonder why a cyclist would do it in year round, I simply say: try it and find out. Rain isn’t that difficult to deal with, and my favorite times to ride were always snowy early winter mornings.)

]]> By: Rick https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/#comment-89107 Fri, 25 Apr 2014 02:04:57 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10965#comment-89107 All I am trying to say is this… If you guys want special privileges… pay for them… I have to put out money to use the roads… you should to. It makes no sense to take driving lanes away in a place that is already congested.. just to appease a very very small amount of people…Oh and to give the mayor something to crow about.

]]> By: Rick https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/#comment-89105 Fri, 25 Apr 2014 01:57:20 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10965#comment-89105 I agree it is not black and white… but I was hoping to have a logical discussion. I guess that went out the window when you want to charge people for side walks. We all already pay taxes for those. Drivers pay money in the form of licenses, tax on fuel, a tax on emissions, ect. ect. yet bike riders want to have dedicated lanes and special considerations for free. How about we make all bike riders have insurance before they put their bike on the road… everyone else the commutes on the public street has to.

]]> By: Foothills Rider https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/#comment-89095 Fri, 25 Apr 2014 00:10:05 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10965#comment-89095 So Rick, how much should pedestrians kick in for their dedicated sidewalks? Do we tax handicapped citizens more for the cost of doing ADA ramps? What about audio signals – should we tax the blind differently for their provisions? Do we track usage, and tax sidewalk use accordingly? Can we opt out of sidewalk tax if we prove we never use one? Maybe issue a permit/license to be sure the are walking/running correctly, etc? You getting nitpicky obfiscates the message(s) shared by BikeBoy. I commend BikeBoy on starting a civil discussion! This is not a two-sided issue. So many here so quick to make everything either black or white.

]]> By: Rick https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/#comment-89092 Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:24:55 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10965#comment-89092 as to Roberts comment and easterner’s reply.. If you are in a rt turn lane the only way for to see someone in either mirror is for them to be coming up beside you…. the bike should not be coming up on the right or the left for that matter. This aint cali… side by side in a lane is a no no

]]> By: Rick https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/23/cycles-and-cars-watch-out-for-each-other/#comment-89088 Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:06:45 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=10965#comment-89088 You might treat drivers with courtesy and respect but the vast majority of your brethren do not. Most of those on bikes pay no attention to any of the rules of the road and will be completely obnoxious when a car goes around them. As to what I drive that was not the point of my lug nut comment, but I guess it went over your head.

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