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		By: rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/27/copper-and-high-school-student-battle/#comment-89843</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 16:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And sal you are always ok with what ever they do... so we differ in our opinion of what is right and wrong in le.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And sal you are always ok with what ever they do&#8230; so we differ in our opinion of what is right and wrong in le.</p>
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		By: Doug		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/27/copper-and-high-school-student-battle/#comment-89839</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 16:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The flow of comments reflect the emotional nature of this story. We all need to learn to be less reactive and be a little more patient to let the whole story develop. Bottom line, when a person has to be subdued it&#039;s not a pretty site to see the struggle that happens. I&#039;m sure that the students filming it would immediately think it&#039;s excessive. I don&#039;t know if any of the posters have been punched in the face, I played hockey and know how it feels. A punch to the face is a good reason to restrain someone. And as one of the posters mentioned, these aren&#039;t elementary or middle school students. High School students can be big and very hard to handle..... Next time, lets all be a little more patient before we blame LEO, School Admins, or the kid involved...... Hopefully this cry for help will get him the help he needs.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flow of comments reflect the emotional nature of this story. We all need to learn to be less reactive and be a little more patient to let the whole story develop. Bottom line, when a person has to be subdued it&#8217;s not a pretty site to see the struggle that happens. I&#8217;m sure that the students filming it would immediately think it&#8217;s excessive. I don&#8217;t know if any of the posters have been punched in the face, I played hockey and know how it feels. A punch to the face is a good reason to restrain someone. And as one of the posters mentioned, these aren&#8217;t elementary or middle school students. High School students can be big and very hard to handle&#8230;.. Next time, lets all be a little more patient before we blame LEO, School Admins, or the kid involved&#8230;&#8230; Hopefully this cry for help will get him the help he needs&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Sal Nez		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/27/copper-and-high-school-student-battle/#comment-89751</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 02:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know I will get spanked for this but Rick, you always think the police are &quot;over the top&quot; and wrong, so before I get told off by the Editor, Goodbye!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I will get spanked for this but Rick, you always think the police are &#8220;over the top&#8221; and wrong, so before I get told off by the Editor, Goodbye!</p>
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		By: rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/27/copper-and-high-school-student-battle/#comment-89658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess I Ned my eyes checked... I have not seen one post that says what happened in the video was going to far. I really think having a high speed parade of about 1/4 of the cops on patrol that days was over the top though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I Ned my eyes checked&#8230; I have not seen one post that says what happened in the video was going to far. I really think having a high speed parade of about 1/4 of the cops on patrol that days was over the top though.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/27/copper-and-high-school-student-battle/#comment-89654</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a non story.  Please do not wake me up again.  Nothing to see here folks, move along please...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a non story.  Please do not wake me up again.  Nothing to see here folks, move along please&#8230;</p>
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		By: Blaskowitz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 05:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are you kidding...the vast majority of the problems in Boise ARE the southern californians .....on and off the force.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding&#8230;the vast majority of the problems in Boise ARE the southern californians &#8230;..on and off the force.</p>
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		By: Kelly S.		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/27/copper-and-high-school-student-battle/#comment-89601</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 04:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those saying one guy should have been enough to take down a 17 year old male who is throwing punches have never been in a real fight.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m sure the officer could have thrown a punch or two and gone for a knockout Chuck Norris style to end it quick, but then we would all be screaming &quot;police brutality&quot; and &quot;excessive force&quot;. 

Instead he called for backup and tried to subdue him. Now we are all upset that more than one officer had to show up while still screaming &quot;excessive force&quot;. 

Why are kids allowed to have or pull out cell phones while in school anyway? Aren&#039;t they supposed to be there for learning. Oh wait, it&#039;s Frank Church.

I&#039;m confused and this is too much drama for me, I&#039;m going back to sleep.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those saying one guy should have been enough to take down a 17 year old male who is throwing punches have never been in a real fight.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m sure the officer could have thrown a punch or two and gone for a knockout Chuck Norris style to end it quick, but then we would all be screaming &#8220;police brutality&#8221; and &#8220;excessive force&#8221;. </p>
<p>Instead he called for backup and tried to subdue him. Now we are all upset that more than one officer had to show up while still screaming &#8220;excessive force&#8221;. </p>
<p>Why are kids allowed to have or pull out cell phones while in school anyway? Aren&#8217;t they supposed to be there for learning. Oh wait, it&#8217;s Frank Church.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused and this is too much drama for me, I&#8217;m going back to sleep.</p>
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		By: Cambria		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I mentioned in my post what concerns me the most is the reaction of the school in this incident. In the letter that was sent to parents they say it is &quot;a Boise Police Department matter&quot;...not exactly. Watching the video you see the school security officer pulling this kid&#039;s hair. Notice the vice principal step in a tell him to stop, that&#039;s enough. The other issue that bothers me is the counselor telling the kids to stop the video and at the end demands their videos...my question is...why? It obviously backfired. I&#039;m glad the one video got out! On a side note...BPD is attempting damage control. In the four years my son has been there not once have I, as a parent, received a smile, a wave, a &quot;hello&quot; from any officers there. Well today I dropped my son off after lunch and the resource officer was standing probably 5 feet away...I made sure I gave my son a hug, a kiss told him I loved him and I would be there after school and you bet I made sure he heard every word! As I sat in my car watching my son go inside, he actually came up to the window, looked at our puppy and said, &quot;What a cute girl...we are Dachshund people too&quot;. After all...perception is everything!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned in my post what concerns me the most is the reaction of the school in this incident. In the letter that was sent to parents they say it is &#8220;a Boise Police Department matter&#8221;&#8230;not exactly. Watching the video you see the school security officer pulling this kid&#8217;s hair. Notice the vice principal step in a tell him to stop, that&#8217;s enough. The other issue that bothers me is the counselor telling the kids to stop the video and at the end demands their videos&#8230;my question is&#8230;why? It obviously backfired. I&#8217;m glad the one video got out! On a side note&#8230;BPD is attempting damage control. In the four years my son has been there not once have I, as a parent, received a smile, a wave, a &#8220;hello&#8221; from any officers there. Well today I dropped my son off after lunch and the resource officer was standing probably 5 feet away&#8230;I made sure I gave my son a hug, a kiss told him I loved him and I would be there after school and you bet I made sure he heard every word! As I sat in my car watching my son go inside, he actually came up to the window, looked at our puppy and said, &#8220;What a cute girl&#8230;we are Dachshund people too&#8221;. After all&#8230;perception is everything!</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is the BPD that bloated and overstaffed??

EDITOR NOTE-- I got the dispatch log and audio of the incident  and it appears the officer simply called for help and policy is when a copper needs help, the coppers come a running.  It would be a fair question why a &quot;code 4&quot; (all ok) wasn&#039;t declared sooner, but I think BPD is not aware of the importance the public puts on massive gatherings of emergency vehicles.  To them it was just a routine call with a rowdy kid.  To many folks it is like a brigade-sized assault.

As to the actual fight, the copper showed restraint by not using taser, etc.  

As to the &quot;felony&quot; charges, if cool heads prevail--as they should--it will be reduced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the BPD that bloated and overstaffed??</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211; I got the dispatch log and audio of the incident  and it appears the officer simply called for help and policy is when a copper needs help, the coppers come a running.  It would be a fair question why a &#8220;code 4&#8221; (all ok) wasn&#8217;t declared sooner, but I think BPD is not aware of the importance the public puts on massive gatherings of emergency vehicles.  To them it was just a routine call with a rowdy kid.  To many folks it is like a brigade-sized assault.</p>
<p>As to the actual fight, the copper showed restraint by not using taser, etc.  </p>
<p>As to the &#8220;felony&#8221; charges, if cool heads prevail&#8211;as they should&#8211;it will be reduced.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 19:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the cops did fine in this little clip... perhaps put themselves in more risk than need be by not taszing him etc.  Guardian, tell us more about the initial encounter and how it got to this point?  Also talk to us about the deadly statistics for wrecks on a code three.  Was there any call-jumping?  Call-jumping code three is really not cool.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the cops did fine in this little clip&#8230; perhaps put themselves in more risk than need be by not taszing him etc.  Guardian, tell us more about the initial encounter and how it got to this point?  Also talk to us about the deadly statistics for wrecks on a code three.  Was there any call-jumping?  Call-jumping code three is really not cool.</p>
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