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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/28/school-returns-phones-with-apology/#comment-89528</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Careful with too much pride in the &quot;massive response&quot;.  Code three is very dangerous for all those going about their business on the roadways.  Safer perhaps than fast driving without the lights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful with too much pride in the &#8220;massive response&#8221;.  Code three is very dangerous for all those going about their business on the roadways.  Safer perhaps than fast driving without the lights.</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 03:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe that&#039;s the problem,the truth will not come out. The wagons have already circled. It seems some of the teachers are just as bad as some of the cops. I assumed you were a teacher, but judging by the way you write and your lack of knowledge of the law you must be a cop... and btw your insinuation that I am a student is laughable. You would be almost correct, we are close to a Nazi state. If and it&#039;s a big IF the radio/computer traffic come out unedited we will see just how psyched to teach those kids a lesson your &quot;bros&quot; were. I am willing to bet the unedited version never sees the light of day.

EDITOR NOTE--FINAL WARNING!! Rick and others, if you have constructive and insightful comments, feel free to post.  No more baiting each other or I will close comments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe that&#8217;s the problem,the truth will not come out. The wagons have already circled. It seems some of the teachers are just as bad as some of the cops. I assumed you were a teacher, but judging by the way you write and your lack of knowledge of the law you must be a cop&#8230; and btw your insinuation that I am a student is laughable. You would be almost correct, we are close to a Nazi state. If and it&#8217;s a big IF the radio/computer traffic come out unedited we will see just how psyched to teach those kids a lesson your &#8220;bros&#8221; were. I am willing to bet the unedited version never sees the light of day.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;FINAL WARNING!! Rick and others, if you have constructive and insightful comments, feel free to post.  No more baiting each other or I will close comments.</p>
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		By: Joe Dugan		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/28/school-returns-phones-with-apology/#comment-89435</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yea!  Uninformed opinions!  My favorite!

Nothing like righteous indignation from people who don&#039;t know what happened.  Especially from those more than willing to fill in the blanks with personal bias based are personal experiences and things they, &quot;heard&quot;.  Why wait for the real story to come out, that&#039;s no fun!  Much better to speculate and slander all parties.  That when the real fun starts!

Teachers who confiscate things in school are thiefs!  If I had to bet...  Kids today!  One time when I was in school...  Come on people, nobody has called the police nazis yet!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea!  Uninformed opinions!  My favorite!</p>
<p>Nothing like righteous indignation from people who don&#8217;t know what happened.  Especially from those more than willing to fill in the blanks with personal bias based are personal experiences and things they, &#8220;heard&#8221;.  Why wait for the real story to come out, that&#8217;s no fun!  Much better to speculate and slander all parties.  That when the real fun starts!</p>
<p>Teachers who confiscate things in school are thiefs!  If I had to bet&#8230;  Kids today!  One time when I was in school&#8230;  Come on people, nobody has called the police nazis yet!</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/04/28/school-returns-phones-with-apology/#comment-89419</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 00:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“in the heat of the moment,” 

So the teen will say, &quot;Honest Judge, I just got caught up in the heat of the moment&quot; and I swung at the guy.   I&#039;m sorry.   


The adults are bad examples in this case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“in the heat of the moment,” </p>
<p>So the teen will say, &#8220;Honest Judge, I just got caught up in the heat of the moment&#8221; and I swung at the guy.   I&#8217;m sorry.   </p>
<p>The adults are bad examples in this case.</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2014 22:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[erico your #2 comment is WAY out of line.. and I hope not the way a decent teacher would act in these situations. A person (teacher) taking property from another.. kid or not is a thief and should be treated as such. Read Idaho code 18-2407]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erico your #2 comment is WAY out of line.. and I hope not the way a decent teacher would act in these situations. A person (teacher) taking property from another.. kid or not is a thief and should be treated as such. Read Idaho code 18-2407</p>
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		By: erico49		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2014 20:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t know how to come down on some aspects. Here are my thoughts

1. LE in Boise over-responds.  I think it&#039;s deliberate and meant to intimidate.

2. Kids in school don&#039;t have the same rights as the rest of us.. at least when it comes to teachers. As a former teacher, I would not hesitate to confiscate something from a student. And would not need a warrant. They need to do what they are told.  I am not sure what kid&#039;s rights are with regard to cops, but I suspect they are fewer than adults have. 

3. However.. if the sole reason for confiscating was CYA, they deserve the criticism that they get. 

4. According to one of the links, the kid was locked out of his house the night before, had to sleep in an alley, and had already  been called out for sleeping in class. What do we expect from a kid going through all that? A KID. God only knows what he has gone through in the rest of his life to put him where he is. 

5. If I had to bet... I would bet that the teacher who instigated the whole thing could have (and should have) handled it better to avoid the escalation. I would also bet that the BPD massively over-reacted.

I thought you did a good job in your post by using some restraint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know how to come down on some aspects. Here are my thoughts</p>
<p>1. LE in Boise over-responds.  I think it&#8217;s deliberate and meant to intimidate.</p>
<p>2. Kids in school don&#8217;t have the same rights as the rest of us.. at least when it comes to teachers. As a former teacher, I would not hesitate to confiscate something from a student. And would not need a warrant. They need to do what they are told.  I am not sure what kid&#8217;s rights are with regard to cops, but I suspect they are fewer than adults have. </p>
<p>3. However.. if the sole reason for confiscating was CYA, they deserve the criticism that they get. </p>
<p>4. According to one of the links, the kid was locked out of his house the night before, had to sleep in an alley, and had already  been called out for sleeping in class. What do we expect from a kid going through all that? A KID. God only knows what he has gone through in the rest of his life to put him where he is. </p>
<p>5. If I had to bet&#8230; I would bet that the teacher who instigated the whole thing could have (and should have) handled it better to avoid the escalation. I would also bet that the BPD massively over-reacted.</p>
<p>I thought you did a good job in your post by using some restraint.</p>
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