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		By: Blaskowitz		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[…..aw yes. The Brady List.  It&#039;s certain that the Brady Bunch wouldn&#039;t want the public to gain access to that little gem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>…..aw yes. The Brady List.  It&#8217;s certain that the Brady Bunch wouldn&#8217;t want the public to gain access to that little gem.</p>
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		By: John Q. Public		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/08/10/boise-council-fumbles-ombudsman/#comment-98162</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[EDITOR NOTE DISCLAIMER--
WE ARE POSTING THIS COMMENT ONLY FOR ITS LINKS.   THE TOPIC IS OMBUDSMAN AND THE LACK OF ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO LEAVE THE POST OPEN MORE THAN A YEAR.

If a Police Officer knowingly and willingly violates the Constitution they have SWORN to uphold and protect, then they are a Traitor and an Enemy of the State (aka &quot;We the People...&quot;).

Those who are apologists for traitors are traitors themselves.

National Police Misconduct Reporting Project @ http://www.policemisconduct.net

Photography Is Not A Crime @ http://photographyisnotacrime.com

18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law @ http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

The FBI is the lead federal agency for investigating color of law abuses @ http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/color_of_law

Why Police Officers Lie Under Oath @ http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/opinion/sunday/why-police-officers-lie-under-oath.html?pagewanted=all&#038;;_r=0

Police officers who have been busted perjuring themselves (lying) in Court are referred to as &quot;Brady cops&quot; and are put on &quot;Brady Lists&quot; by the Prosecutor&#039;s Office, and are never called as witnesses by the Prosecution because even they can&#039;t trust them. For example : http://www.scribd.com/doc/40127684/Phoenix-Police-Department-BRADY-LIST

Constitution of the United States of America @ http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html

LAW ENFORCEMENT CODE OF ETHICS &#038; CONDUCT (Example) @ http://police.cityofboise.org/media/469928/september-2013-bpd-policy-manual-public-copy.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EDITOR NOTE DISCLAIMER&#8211;<br />
WE ARE POSTING THIS COMMENT ONLY FOR ITS LINKS.   THE TOPIC IS OMBUDSMAN AND THE LACK OF ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO LEAVE THE POST OPEN MORE THAN A YEAR.</p>
<p>If a Police Officer knowingly and willingly violates the Constitution they have SWORN to uphold and protect, then they are a Traitor and an Enemy of the State (aka &#8220;We the People&#8230;&#8221;).</p>
<p>Those who are apologists for traitors are traitors themselves.</p>
<p>National Police Misconduct Reporting Project @ <a href="http://www.policemisconduct.net" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.policemisconduct.net</a></p>
<p>Photography Is Not A Crime @ <a href="http://photographyisnotacrime.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://photographyisnotacrime.com</a></p>
<p>18 U.S. Code § 242 &#8211; Deprivation of rights under color of law @ <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242</a></p>
<p>The FBI is the lead federal agency for investigating color of law abuses @ <a href="http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/color_of_law" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/color_of_law</a></p>
<p>Why Police Officers Lie Under Oath @ <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/opinion/sunday/why-police-officers-lie-under-oath.html?pagewanted=all&#038;amp" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/opinion/sunday/why-police-officers-lie-under-oath.html?pagewanted=all&#038;amp</a>;;_r=0</p>
<p>Police officers who have been busted perjuring themselves (lying) in Court are referred to as &#8220;Brady cops&#8221; and are put on &#8220;Brady Lists&#8221; by the Prosecutor&#8217;s Office, and are never called as witnesses by the Prosecution because even they can&#8217;t trust them. For example : <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/40127684/Phoenix-Police-Department-BRADY-LIST" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.scribd.com/doc/40127684/Phoenix-Police-Department-BRADY-LIST</a></p>
<p>Constitution of the United States of America @ <a href="http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html</a></p>
<p>LAW ENFORCEMENT CODE OF ETHICS &amp; CONDUCT (Example) @ <a href="http://police.cityofboise.org/media/469928/september-2013-bpd-policy-manual-public-copy.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://police.cityofboise.org/media/469928/september-2013-bpd-policy-manual-public-copy.pdf</a></p>
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		By: Blaskowitz		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/08/10/boise-council-fumbles-ombudsman/#comment-98157</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2014 02:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agreed.  No doubt since no indictments were handed down (which can mean a number of different things), the power brokers in the PD are more than willing to let the dust settle until individuals retire, secure new employment or quit and take what they may know with them.  There won&#039;t be any internal discipline of any kind of that  I am certain.  To do so would admit that just maybe the Feds were on to something but it didn&#039;t quite rise to the federal level or (in my opinion) some &quot;technicalities were encountered&quot; and to do so would cause some uncomfortable questions to be asked. One things is for sure: this city will NEVER know the truth.  

And the question STILL must be asked: where was the ombudsman during this entire bit of shennanigans?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  No doubt since no indictments were handed down (which can mean a number of different things), the power brokers in the PD are more than willing to let the dust settle until individuals retire, secure new employment or quit and take what they may know with them.  There won&#8217;t be any internal discipline of any kind of that  I am certain.  To do so would admit that just maybe the Feds were on to something but it didn&#8217;t quite rise to the federal level or (in my opinion) some &#8220;technicalities were encountered&#8221; and to do so would cause some uncomfortable questions to be asked. One things is for sure: this city will NEVER know the truth.  </p>
<p>And the question STILL must be asked: where was the ombudsman during this entire bit of shennanigans?</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2014 00:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Patterns of misconduct, repeated instances of misconduct, and multiple instances of such, now, THAT invites the Feds!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patterns of misconduct, repeated instances of misconduct, and multiple instances of such, now, THAT invites the Feds!!</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2014 00:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Editor:

The Feds cannot be blamed for Bieter, Masterson, and Murphy&#039;s failures to report and be accountable to the citizens and taxpayers!

Further, why are we accepting the ruse and charade that it was only one officer and one incident that invited the Feds?

I do NOT buy that!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editor:</p>
<p>The Feds cannot be blamed for Bieter, Masterson, and Murphy&#8217;s failures to report and be accountable to the citizens and taxpayers!</p>
<p>Further, why are we accepting the ruse and charade that it was only one officer and one incident that invited the Feds?</p>
<p>I do NOT buy that!!!!</p>
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		By: rick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This statement bothers me....Coppers have to talk to the ombudsman as a “condition of employment” which means they give up their 5th amendment rights. In exchange, none of the info received during interviews can be used for criminal prosecution. Cops get way too many advantages as it is an this pseudo immunity wreaks of just one more in a line of special privileges given to cops. Treat them the same as the rest of us.

EDITOR NOTE--It is  sort of a &quot;Catch-22.&quot;  If a copper retains his 5th rights, he does not have to talk to the ombudsman for fear of self incrimination in future criminal proceedings.  If there is no pending criminal proceeding, he HAS to tell the truth or face dismissal.  In one sense it actually gives the city TWO chances to weed out a bad copper…criminal investigation followed by departmental sanctions for policy or rule violations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This statement bothers me&#8230;.Coppers have to talk to the ombudsman as a “condition of employment” which means they give up their 5th amendment rights. In exchange, none of the info received during interviews can be used for criminal prosecution. Cops get way too many advantages as it is an this pseudo immunity wreaks of just one more in a line of special privileges given to cops. Treat them the same as the rest of us.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;It is  sort of a &#8220;Catch-22.&#8221;  If a copper retains his 5th rights, he does not have to talk to the ombudsman for fear of self incrimination in future criminal proceedings.  If there is no pending criminal proceeding, he HAS to tell the truth or face dismissal.  In one sense it actually gives the city TWO chances to weed out a bad copper…criminal investigation followed by departmental sanctions for policy or rule violations.</p>
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		By: Blaskowitz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaskowitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Citizen:  that ONE issue alone renders the entire concept of police oversight in Boise meaningless.  There are two and ONLT two explanations for the absolutely incredible apathy on the part of our local journalists and the citizens concerning this Federal probe:

1.  The ombudsman was completely aware of the entire episode that the Chief claims he was ignorant of and chose not to report to the citizens what the issue pertained to or;

2.  The ombudsman was completely UNAWARE of what took place and did not report anything to the citizens because he was left out of the loop (cops and politics) and he honestly was unaware of what happened.  The only way we will ever know is to ask this man who no longer lives in this state.

Unfortunately in either scenario it simply shows that this one-man band was totally meaningless.  I have stopped wasting my time reading about complaints on the ombudsman&#039;s site concerning &quot;attitude&quot;, &quot;demeanor&quot; or &quot;language&quot; with the local constables.  A total and complete waste of my money.

EDITOR NOTE--That issue was indeed poorly handled.  If there was any culprit it was the FBI and U.S. Attorney.  Coppers have to talk to the ombudsman as a &quot;condition of employment&quot; which means they give up their 5th amendment rights.  In exchange, none of the info received during interviews can be used for criminal prosecution.  As a practical matter, the ombudsman has to wait for a criminal investigation to be completed before he can step in.  While it may have been a bit delayed--due to the foot dragging of the FBI--the chief did indeed fire the bad copper. That was a &quot;personnel matter&quot; off limits to public records.  When  the officer&#039;s &quot;professional certification&quot; was revoked the GUARDIAN had the first shot at exposing the matter and we did so. https://boiseguardian.com/2012/06/25/boise-copper-banned-from-idaho-law-enforcement/
  A year later the STATESMAN did a rehash, but by then the statute of limitations had run out.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizen:  that ONE issue alone renders the entire concept of police oversight in Boise meaningless.  There are two and ONLT two explanations for the absolutely incredible apathy on the part of our local journalists and the citizens concerning this Federal probe:</p>
<p>1.  The ombudsman was completely aware of the entire episode that the Chief claims he was ignorant of and chose not to report to the citizens what the issue pertained to or;</p>
<p>2.  The ombudsman was completely UNAWARE of what took place and did not report anything to the citizens because he was left out of the loop (cops and politics) and he honestly was unaware of what happened.  The only way we will ever know is to ask this man who no longer lives in this state.</p>
<p>Unfortunately in either scenario it simply shows that this one-man band was totally meaningless.  I have stopped wasting my time reading about complaints on the ombudsman&#8217;s site concerning &#8220;attitude&#8221;, &#8220;demeanor&#8221; or &#8220;language&#8221; with the local constables.  A total and complete waste of my money.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;That issue was indeed poorly handled.  If there was any culprit it was the FBI and U.S. Attorney.  Coppers have to talk to the ombudsman as a &#8220;condition of employment&#8221; which means they give up their 5th amendment rights.  In exchange, none of the info received during interviews can be used for criminal prosecution.  As a practical matter, the ombudsman has to wait for a criminal investigation to be completed before he can step in.  While it may have been a bit delayed&#8211;due to the foot dragging of the FBI&#8211;the chief did indeed fire the bad copper. That was a &#8220;personnel matter&#8221; off limits to public records.  When  the officer&#8217;s &#8220;professional certification&#8221; was revoked the GUARDIAN had the first shot at exposing the matter and we did so. <a href="https://boiseguardian.com/2012/06/25/boise-copper-banned-from-idaho-law-enforcement/" rel="ugc">https://boiseguardian.com/2012/06/25/boise-copper-banned-from-idaho-law-enforcement/</a><br />
  A year later the STATESMAN did a rehash, but by then the statute of limitations had run out.</p>
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		By: rick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[citizen... just a question... what good do you think it would have done to release the info. Apathy in this valley and blind faith in LE here would not be swayed. Lets face it LE is not going to air their dirty laundry what good would that do them. It would only show that they are not better than the average person...We see the mentality of the &quot;average cop&quot; when we look at incidents in other communities. Watch CNN right now if you need proof.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>citizen&#8230; just a question&#8230; what good do you think it would have done to release the info. Apathy in this valley and blind faith in LE here would not be swayed. Lets face it LE is not going to air their dirty laundry what good would that do them. It would only show that they are not better than the average person&#8230;We see the mentality of the &#8220;average cop&#8221; when we look at incidents in other communities. Watch CNN right now if you need proof.</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 03:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is appalling that Bieter and Masterson did not feel more compelled to report more to those who write their paychecks regarding this serious matter and lengthy investigation by the Feds!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is appalling that Bieter and Masterson did not feel more compelled to report more to those who write their paychecks regarding this serious matter and lengthy investigation by the Feds!!!</p>
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		By: Interested Citizen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interested Citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2014 01:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And, remember this:

I seem to recall, what, a 14 month investigation into BPD misconduct and improprieties that Bieter, Masterson, and others hardly breathed a word of to the media, taxpayers, voters, and such!!!

Is this openness and transparency and good communication?

The BPD must be the biggest expense in the budget by far.  Where is the accountability??

What is Bieter trying to hide?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, remember this:</p>
<p>I seem to recall, what, a 14 month investigation into BPD misconduct and improprieties that Bieter, Masterson, and others hardly breathed a word of to the media, taxpayers, voters, and such!!!</p>
<p>Is this openness and transparency and good communication?</p>
<p>The BPD must be the biggest expense in the budget by far.  Where is the accountability??</p>
<p>What is Bieter trying to hide?</p>
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