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	Comments on: Boise Councilor Seeks To Squeeze 10&#8242; 3&#8243; Bus Into 10&#8242;  Traffic Lane	</title>
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		By: BoiseB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BoiseB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 19:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, ROD (and apparently all you other ostriches) - forcing someone to do something is not the same as encouraging someone to do something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, ROD (and apparently all you other ostriches) &#8211; forcing someone to do something is not the same as encouraging someone to do something.</p>
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		By: frankr		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2014/10/02/boise-council-seeks-to-squeeze-10-3-bus-into-10-lane/#comment-98390</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frankr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 11:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When Maryanne Jordan gets the lanes 10&#039; wide; then she will have ammo to force Bieters streetcar on her constituents]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Maryanne Jordan gets the lanes 10&#8242; wide; then she will have ammo to force Bieters streetcar on her constituents</p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod in SE Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 16:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You cannot force people to give up their cars and ride bikes.  Bieter is also trying to end the single-family home and force us all into tiny downtown condos or apartments. That won&#039;t work, either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot force people to give up their cars and ride bikes.  Bieter is also trying to end the single-family home and force us all into tiny downtown condos or apartments. That won&#8217;t work, either.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 20:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Easterner:  OPEC? No, no.  Turn off CNN.

Buses cars bikes and oil:  

Who&#039;s the world&#039;s number one producer of crude oil AND refined petroleum products?  The USA.  Yes that&#039;s right, we are... in spite of O&#039;bumer... We are!  But due to enormous amounts of bull crap from media, politicos, and oil corporations... people like you think we&#039;re having an energy crisis.  We are not... we do have a pollution crisis and a price gouging crisis and a population crisis and a shortfall of intelligent people reproducing crisis, but noting we can fix with or without a bike lane. (You must see the movie Idiocracy)

Buses got their start when GM convinced the politicos to pull the old rails from the streets.  It&#039;s seems that trains and cars/trucks often collided (and still do).  Buses seem to do it better, cheaper, safer.

Rail is now pushed on us again.  It&#039;s a scam, just like the new stadium idea... the only people who will win are the middlemen.  Gotta love rail for moving freight, but the politicos are only pushing it for people transport while they let the freight rail rot.  Typical.

Bikes are great if you are smart enough to understand that spandex and bike friendly laws will not protect you from Suzie Soccer Mom&#039;s mini-van, prescription drugs, and iPhone.  And I can&#039;t imagine riding to work and trying to look collected / organized after a dangerous 30 minute workout in my suit and tie.

So, Cars rock!  Have you seen the numbers on some of the newest muscle cars... Park the buses and bikes, we&#039;ve finally arrived!

Economics of the bus... if a metro area has very few free/low priced services... who&#039;s more likely to live there?  What will the crime rate look like?  What will the public schools be like?

Team Dave:  When was the last time Boise coppers bothered to catch a bike thief?  How many bikes reported stolen in your city?  Why such a huge ratio of unsolved theft?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easterner:  OPEC? No, no.  Turn off CNN.</p>
<p>Buses cars bikes and oil:  </p>
<p>Who&#8217;s the world&#8217;s number one producer of crude oil AND refined petroleum products?  The USA.  Yes that&#8217;s right, we are&#8230; in spite of O&#8217;bumer&#8230; We are!  But due to enormous amounts of bull crap from media, politicos, and oil corporations&#8230; people like you think we&#8217;re having an energy crisis.  We are not&#8230; we do have a pollution crisis and a price gouging crisis and a population crisis and a shortfall of intelligent people reproducing crisis, but noting we can fix with or without a bike lane. (You must see the movie Idiocracy)</p>
<p>Buses got their start when GM convinced the politicos to pull the old rails from the streets.  It&#8217;s seems that trains and cars/trucks often collided (and still do).  Buses seem to do it better, cheaper, safer.</p>
<p>Rail is now pushed on us again.  It&#8217;s a scam, just like the new stadium idea&#8230; the only people who will win are the middlemen.  Gotta love rail for moving freight, but the politicos are only pushing it for people transport while they let the freight rail rot.  Typical.</p>
<p>Bikes are great if you are smart enough to understand that spandex and bike friendly laws will not protect you from Suzie Soccer Mom&#8217;s mini-van, prescription drugs, and iPhone.  And I can&#8217;t imagine riding to work and trying to look collected / organized after a dangerous 30 minute workout in my suit and tie.</p>
<p>So, Cars rock!  Have you seen the numbers on some of the newest muscle cars&#8230; Park the buses and bikes, we&#8217;ve finally arrived!</p>
<p>Economics of the bus&#8230; if a metro area has very few free/low priced services&#8230; who&#8217;s more likely to live there?  What will the crime rate look like?  What will the public schools be like?</p>
<p>Team Dave:  When was the last time Boise coppers bothered to catch a bike thief?  How many bikes reported stolen in your city?  Why such a huge ratio of unsolved theft?</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I want bike riding to be safe, but I don&#039;t agree with super-sizing the bike lanes to do it.  

On the other hand... if Team Dave wants a double-play... to have the bike lanes and go greener on the buses... they could use smaller buses.  I&#039;ve noticed the buses are typically way below capacity anyway.  We only run them now to get the fed money?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want bike riding to be safe, but I don&#8217;t agree with super-sizing the bike lanes to do it.  </p>
<p>On the other hand&#8230; if Team Dave wants a double-play&#8230; to have the bike lanes and go greener on the buses&#8230; they could use smaller buses.  I&#8217;ve noticed the buses are typically way below capacity anyway.  We only run them now to get the fed money?</p>
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		By: Dale Gribble		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dale Gribble]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 16:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Bieter begone&quot; - There is usually no buffer on any bike lanes. Not sure what you are talking about. ACHD is proposing between 18 and 42 inches buffer for this one particular section of road, but that isn&#039;t very normal for bike lanes and doesn&#039;t even exist yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bieter begone&#8221; &#8211; There is usually no buffer on any bike lanes. Not sure what you are talking about. ACHD is proposing between 18 and 42 inches buffer for this one particular section of road, but that isn&#8217;t very normal for bike lanes and doesn&#8217;t even exist yet.</p>
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		By: Brian Rippy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Rippy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The ACHD took 12&#039; out of the Gekeler roadway for bike lanes.  Trucks or buses cannot fit in the lanes now, cars just barely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACHD took 12&#8242; out of the Gekeler roadway for bike lanes.  Trucks or buses cannot fit in the lanes now, cars just barely.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kip, the idea to reduce the # of cars on the road and INCREASE the # of bicycles.   
Don&#039;t you think that is a good thing?   

Or do you love OPEC?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kip, the idea to reduce the # of cars on the road and INCREASE the # of bicycles.<br />
Don&#8217;t you think that is a good thing?   </p>
<p>Or do you love OPEC?</p>
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		By: codwalleder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[codwalleder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 03:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[achd resurfaced gekeler ln. this summer. The car lanes are very narrow and the bike lanes on both sides of the street are very wide.  My first thought was that the car lanes are to narrow for bigger cars.

Followed a bus the other day that was constantly driving on the white lines.  Unavoidable with the stupidly narrow lanes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>achd resurfaced gekeler ln. this summer. The car lanes are very narrow and the bike lanes on both sides of the street are very wide.  My first thought was that the car lanes are to narrow for bigger cars.</p>
<p>Followed a bus the other day that was constantly driving on the white lines.  Unavoidable with the stupidly narrow lanes.</p>
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		By: Bill McCrory		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill McCrory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 23:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the Army we used to call that squeeze a &quot;blivet.&quot;

A more socially acceptable comparison for trying to fit a 10&#039;-03&quot; bus into a 10&#039; lane would be like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Army we used to call that squeeze a &#8220;blivet.&#8221;</p>
<p>A more socially acceptable comparison for trying to fit a 10&#8242;-03&#8243; bus into a 10&#8242; lane would be like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.</p>
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