EDITOR NOTE–This post was about travel and the size of America. You guys are so far off topic, we had to close comments.

Well enough.

However, rather than substantively addressing the facts about the environmental and loss of life disasters exacerbated by the unintended consequences of Obama’s blocking of the safer and more efficient pipeline transport, greasedby Warren Buffet’s endorsement of Obama, you chose to label me and name call, correct???

I hadn’t heard of Saul Alinsky until your post, so I guess I came up with it myself. However, I never would have labeled you as such without the perspective of your rants.

Regarding my background (as if it has a logical bearing on my opinion), I was born and raised in Boise in 1979. I got my undergrad at U of I and my engineering degree at the University of Colorado. Hope that qualifies me.

Interesting aside, in reading Alinsky’s wiki, I found the following, which I find appropriate: When asked during an interview whether he ever considered becoming a Communist party member, he replied:

Not at any time. I’ve never joined any organization—not even the ones I’ve organized myself. I prize my own independence too much. And philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology, whether it’s Christianity or Marxism. One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as ‘that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you’re right.’ If you don’t have that, if you think you’ve got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated. The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by such religious and political and racial fanatics …

Did you get name calling (archetypal short…..) from Saul Alinsky’s book, or did you come up with that all by yourself?

Let me just guess:

Either you don’t even live in Idaho, or you are a California (or other liberal state) transplant, escaping from the human pollutants there, and all the while attempting to transform my Gem of the Mountains into the People’s Republic of CA!

EDITOR NOTE–You boys play nice or I am gonna stop the car and come back there!

I agree with BoiseB: “… there really is little difference between both sides. The biggest similarity being the cycle of credit and blame.” Or as Michael Savage once said, “Vote for the Demican or Republocrat – it really doesn’t matter.” (And I believe that’s why voter turnout has become low – does it make a difference? It’s hard not to get cynical.)

Since the topic of politics has arisen, I must ask… were you on the road on Election Day? And if so, did you notice America getting measurably better or worse, after the “GOP Mandate”?

EDITOR NOTE–Bikeboy, for the record, I voted early. I was indeed on the road election day and the biggest difference in the country was summed up by a Florida TV station which ran a “moody” commercial of the seashore and gentle waves with sound. The message said, “RELAX! NO MORE POLITICAL ADS.”

What would the 47 and their loved ones say???

I think most base voters, like yourself, fail to see that there really is little difference between both sides. The biggest similarity being the cycle of credit and blame. For example, your claim gas prices are high because “EPA out of control and more Lib failed policies.” You don’t seem to have a problem with the way state republicans are handling things in spite of the fact that Idaho is defying national trends on fuel prices.

I suspect that you would love the ACA if it were a Republican law (as most Republicans did when it actually was a Republican idea).

It’s sad to see someone so closed minded, but as I’ve seen with my parents and others, older people care less about the message and more about who’s delivering it.

In July 2013, an oil unit train, originated along the proposed Keystone XL pathway, derailed and burned in Lac Megantec, Quebec. 47 were killed, burned up, and the town leveled!!!

Because, at least in part, Obama has blocked the Keystone XL!!!!

These are FACTS, not mere supposition!
More misplaced and failed LIB policies!!

And, I may add, not, I repeat, NOT reported by the mainstream media!

And, for those of you so interested:

Warren Buffet, the Omaha Bazillionaire who endorsed Obama in 2008, owns the railroad system which transports some 80 percent of the oil out of North Dakota!!

Do you Libs get it just yet????

No Keystone Pipeline! Lib and Obama ideology.

No refineries? EPA out of control and more Lib failed policies.

Heavy impediments to oil drillers, cracking, and efficient pipeline transport?? Higher prices at the pump, especially in out of the way places such as Idaho.

Lib attempts to dismiss economic principles never work!!!!!