Comments on: Indians Say Horsemen Speak With Forked Tongue

By: boisecynic

boisecynic — Thu, 08 Jan 2015 15:05:19 +0000

Funny thing about conservatives. Didn’t it used to be that gambling was a sin? Wasn’t gambling considered immoral? At the very least, gambling is addictive and we all know what conservatives like to do with drug addicts. Lengthy jail terms.

It’s not very conservative to liberalize gaming laws.

EDITOR NOTE–Remember, horse racing is the “sport of kings.”

By: Zippo

Zippo — Thu, 08 Jan 2015 04:51:33 +0000

I think gambling is as harmful as alcoholism and smoking. It’s astonishing the revenue the three “sins” generate for the governments involved. Crazy really. How creating and feeding addiction any different from predatory lending?

Tribe owned gambling: In the end, white-man gave the Natives the worst possible white-man disease… Greed.

Theory: The Native casinos have been allowed by the US government in effort to finally integrate the Native populations into mainstream America. It’s working. Awash with money, the tribes are resembling private corporations.

Fortunately they are also building excellent museums to preserve vanishing examples of the past.

By: Clancy

Clancy — Wed, 07 Jan 2015 21:13:25 +0000

This sort of “gambling” certainly passes the Duck Test and/or Elephant test.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test

Check out this link from an Instant Racing machine supplier. They say they are betting on generalized data instead of specific races and it involves some skill, but it does look like a casino to me. http://www.amtote.com/content/instant-racing

It would be interesting to see a video of what is installed locally, but for now check these out. This first one looks a little different than a “slot machine”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2qy8m0P7tc

This one however clearly looks like the the duck(slot machine). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrUQkyNOubw

By: My Two cents

My Two cents — Wed, 07 Jan 2015 20:30:51 +0000

Casmir: The difference is that the Indian casinos are not technically within the governmental boundaries of the state of Idaho; they are on sovereign land. Thus, the argument is flawed if the premise is gambling should be legal everywhere in Idaho because it is legal on reservations. It’s like saying gambling is legal in Monaco, so it should be legal in Idaho. That said, however, I happen to agree that gambling should be legal, but that is a matter for the Idaho state legislature, and I doubt will ever happen.

By: Casmir

Casmir — Wed, 07 Jan 2015 20:02:10 +0000

Simply the Reservation Casino interests trying to protect their monopoly in the State. If gambling is acceptable on reservations, there is no legitimate reason it not permitted elsewhere. What’s the difference? This mess is precisely what happens when you allow certain people to dictate the behaviors of others. If we really embraced freedom, stupidity like this wouldn’t exist. Easterner is correct….

By: Porcupine

Porcupine — Wed, 07 Jan 2015 17:26:06 +0000

Boise County voters just approved gambling to save Idaho City. The horse racing people got gambling approved to save horse racing. Is horse racing more important than saving a dying city?
(Mr Guardian you should see who the people are that rent Les Boise Park and you would understand why it got approved by the state).

If we are going down this road let’s just legalize it.

Just a FYI for every one I don’t think gambling is going to save horse racing or Idaho City

By: Easterner

Easterner — Wed, 07 Jan 2015 16:16:35 +0000

Let’s legalize ALL gambling in Idaho.

Too much money being lost to Nevada and other states.

If Republicans were really for free enterprise it would be done already.

By: Bieter+begone

Bieter+begone — Wed, 07 Jan 2015 11:47:24 +0000

If this is betting on historical races, couldn’t one look up the result of that race before betting? I guess I don’t understand the whole concept because to me, it seems stupid. It’s like picking numbers today for the lottery that ran last night. Now that I could go for.

EDITOR NOTE– It is indeed like picking numbers from a previous lottery. However they don’t tell you WHAT lottery or WHERE until you spin the cherries, lemons, and bars. There are something like 60,000 races used to take your money.

By: slfisher

slfisher — Wed, 07 Jan 2015 01:05:17 +0000

Does anyone know if the tribes raised objections when this came up to the legislature?

That said, jeez, the “forked tongue” thing is a little outdated don’t you think?

EDITOR NOTE–Both the story and the letter say the Indians didn’t object because the scheme was sold as “just like pari-mutuel.” They now claim both the Indians and legislators were told a fib, lie, falsehood. (Forked tongue!)