Comments on: ACHD Says “Amen” To Prayers

By: LOL

LOL — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 06:48:29 +0000

Mitch, your election signs are still littering many neighborhoods. Get out and walk the ditches… there are dozens of them. Should get a litter ticket.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:19:09 +0000

Oooh,, I get it.
Never mind Mr. Jaurena. So the parking meter sensors?

“Hey you vote for my prayer time, and I’ll vote against the city on the meters.”
Which leads back to C. Baker’s previous comment about “a preordained deal”, is that what the two of you are saying?
Well, really that’s how politics works, so what?

By: Mitchell A. Jaurena

Mitchell A. Jaurena — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 23:52:13 +0000

http://achdidaho.org/MeetingsAgendas/CommissionMeetings/Archive/2015/Default.aspx?dateOfAgenda=02-25-15

See item 3 on regular agenda and who voted for and against it.

Like I said you need to pay attention. Casually reviewing and solely getting your news from the Statesman and Guardian without delving deeper into the issues and votes isn’t something “I” need to reveal. It is something you should research and know on your own. Low information voters…..the bain of a republic.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 23:08:11 +0000

Mr. Jaurena, what do you mean by “the sensor vote is connected”? And go along “to get his vote”- is there a particular upcoming vote those 2 want Goldthorpe to go their way? What you are saying doesn’t make sense unless you release the details.

I don’t think the issue of ‘customers’ is based on what any of the commissioners are saying- it is based on what the Director is saying. It goes to a lot about this management philosophy. “Customers” may be a good use, but 436,000 is a bad reference. Regardless it’s a BAD memo/bad all the way around.

By: P. Hautzinger

P. Hautzinger — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 20:43:20 +0000

Please. Pray at home or in your church and leave government meetings to their jobs.

Praying and religion are about faith and belief and is a personal issue. Keep it private and to yourselves.

By: Mitchell A. Jaurena

Mitchell A. Jaurena — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:31:07 +0000

Grumpy, you are thin slicing definitions. ACHD employees work hard to take care of Ada County residents. Your fight is with the elected official who cooked up the hair-brained idea and the other two Commissioners who quid pro quo supported him to get his vote. If you don’t think the sensor vote is connected you are not paying attention.

By: Foothills Rider

Foothills Rider — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:29:48 +0000

Ms. Frazier,
What is your feeling on related issue in article of Statesman today:
“Sen. Steve Vick, R-Dalton Gardens, says he’ll walk out if a Hindu prayer opens the Idaho Senate on Tuesday morning.
“They have a caste system,” Vick said. “They worship cows.””

To those so inclined, those personal Hindu beliefs (or any other) are stronger and those doctrines and specific Overseers more pertinent than your Christian beliefs/Overseer. It is not a ‘majority rules’ when it comes to religious freedoms.

What seems to be happening is that forced Christian-leaning is purposefully the goal even when these prayer-promoters tout religious freedom. Non-Christians who might be offended are called out specifically when told they can choose to simply not participate. That is not OK.
A moment of non-denominational (or non-theist) silence is a bigger gesture to all our freedoms than a forced Christian-leaning tribute. Many Christians agree.

EDITOR NOTE–Rider, I think you got right. Religion has no place in government. Today the Dems walked out of Congress on the Jewish state (Isreal) prime minister, a professed Christian walked out of the Idaho Senate on a Hindu, and a prayer policy offered by a Mormon took so much heat at ACHD it will be rescinded. Without these folks we would have little to blog about!

By: CJ Petrovsky

CJ Petrovsky — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 15:43:56 +0000

Excellent result…and kudos to the Board for reconsidering an ill-advised initial decision.

By: Grumpy ole Guy

Grumpy ole Guy — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 03:24:53 +0000

Customers! The ACHD sees us as customers; no wonder there is such a disconnect. I see them as the staff hired by our elected representatives to serve the citizenry. I see the ACHD as a service organization responsible to and answering to the voters who elect the Commissioners. Now wonder Public Service employees take such a jaundiced view of complaints, suggestions and alternate views if the people who pay their salaries are considered to be their customers.

EDITOR NOTE–Grumpy, are you saying the “team members” actually see themselves as “associates,” as in WalMart?

By: Justin Beller

Justin Beller — Tue, 03 Mar 2015 00:21:32 +0000

I don’t care if they handle snakes, chant, sacrifice a chicken, and then sing a rousing rendition of God Bless America before (or after) every meeting. As long as they do their job that’s all I care about.