Comments on: Ombudsman Office Cut In Half After 2 year Vacancy

By: Dave Frazier

Dave Frazier — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:23:14 +0000

Well folks, you did it again. I am forced to close this post for comments as it has become “cop bashing,” and not about the OMBUDSMAN office, duties, funding, etc.

PLEASE try to stay on topic.

By: Think for Yourself

Think for Yourself — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:23:39 +0000

If you honestly believe the role of the police in this country is to generate revenue, you are completely out of touch with reality. Nothing could be further from the truth. And, as for your bright idea of the police being used purely on a reactionary basis, that is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard. The criminal element would have that figured out in a millisecond and they would be running rampant in short order. You would be well advised to keep your silly conspiracy theories to yourself my friend…..

By: Jake

Jake — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:02:59 +0000

One thing I always enjoy is reading the comments from the trolls on this site. This morning zippo takes the cake for comment of the day!
Wanting police to sit in a little glass box until needed just like the fire department is awesome. I bet there are many cops who would love to sit around and get paid to work out, cook dinner, watch football, all on the city’s dime, just like firemen.
Zippo clearly lacks any fundamental knowledge of what police do vs fireman. Im no expert but I bet the purpose of police patrolling is to prevent crime from happening, and living in Boise it appears it works fairly well. I think the fire department does a similar thing around certain holidays by going around and seizing illegal fireworks…..Other than that I can’t think of to many ways a fire department can actively stop someone from burning their house down, so they sit and wait for the person to get drunk and make a grease fire.
THe police though can help stop crime by being a presence and making criminals not want to take the chance of getting caught. But maybe zippo would prefer to just have violence erupt in Boise and wait until the officers can get out of the glass box to come fix the mess. Of course then you would just blog about how long it took them to get there……

By: Easterner

Easterner — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 03:56:53 +0000

TFY,
More likely to be struck by lightning a dozen times…. yeah good stats yo.

I can look at it objectively when the Boise police SWAT busts into an apartment at 0 dark thirty, pops some noise makers, arrests innocent people by mistake,,, I OBJECTIVELY realize that could be me. And TFY, it could be YOU too.

As for me, if someone breaks in to my castle, I have a firearm near my throne to defend myself as I expect anyone coming in 4:30 is an unwelcomed intruder AND I will choose to defend myself. Guess what would happen next? It’s not 12 bolts of lighting.

TFY, On your Tamir points, the dispatcher told them it was a juvenile and likely a toy gun. Granted that looks like a real gun and the cops should treat it as such– a loaded gun and the person might fire it. Hey dumbass cops, if you treat it is REAL gun, you might want to maintain some distance and try to talk some reason into the person- you remember when cops used to shout “drop the gun”.. REALLY their fast close approach put the cops in danger. If it was a mental person, “hey thanks for driving up close, now I;ll shoot you through the windowshield.”

There is no defense for such police in any of the recent national and now Boise cases.
Thankfully no one was killed in that botched Boise invasion.

Univ of Cin cop case– NO the system is NOT working like it should. He should have not been hired there to begin with. It is public, that his previous police employer did not recommend him for police work and to the effect said ‘he is not cut out for police work’.

I agree with Zippo half of those “peaceful” encounters are cops jacking someone up to try to find drugs, dui, or intent on drumming up revenue. ALL violating the law.

And, you don’t even need to be black— https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRl0z7ZueAg

By: Zippo

Zippo — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 22:54:04 +0000

TFY

“The police in the U.S. have literally millions of peaceful interactions with the public on a daily basis.”

Yep that’s true, but it’s far far far too many contacts initiated by the police with the intent of generating revenue for the cartel. I want police to sit in a little glass box until needed. It works very well for the fire department and fire extinguishers and a whole lot of other tools. Cops are now considered oppressive, dangerous, unstable, unpredictable, and not worthy of the public trust …by tens-of-millions completely law abiding American citizens… And that’s a big problem friend. As is the oppressive and growing cost of police departments. 25-30% of the entire Boise City budget!! That’s just stupid people.

Great link Bob!!

By: Easterner

Easterner — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:30:48 +0000

great link Bob!

I’m sure everyone can agree the needless deaths are only part of the problem.

Cops lying to cover up their abuses, fellow cops accepting it, police chiefs lying and supporting the abuses, and delinquent prosecutors “backing up their people ” are all just playing the game.

By: Think for Yourself

Think for Yourself — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:35:35 +0000

Easterner and J Smith….your distorted and biased views are so ingrained, that you obviously lack the ability to look at a situation with any objectivity. Yes, the Timar Rice situation was tragic. What you fail to mention, though, is that the young man was holding a weapon and had been pointing it at people, causing a citizen to call 911. The responding officers had no way of knowing whether that weapon was real or not. (And, if you look at the photos of the weapon, it absolutely looks real, even though it is not). Those officers’ actions are in no way indicative of the police being out of control. As for the University of Cincinnati officer, he is being charged with homicide and the justice system appears to be working just the way it should if that officer was indeed in the wrong.

The police in the U.S. have literally millions of peaceful interactions with the public on a daily basis. When you cherrry pick a few tragic anomalies and then expect us to believe that is the “norm”, you are simply showing your complete lack of credibility. As for my “stupid” steps on how to not have a tragic encounter with the police….I stand by those steps because they do work 99.9999999999999 % of the time. (I admit, the one out of many millions of times that they don’t work doesn’t quite add-up to 100%, but you are more likely to be struck by lightning a dozen times than to be killed by the police).

By: Bob

Bob — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:07:30 +0000

Think

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/dont-hurt-police-break-law-30-examples-statement-epic-fail/

By: Easterner

Easterner — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:34:47 +0000

Think for Yourself,
here is another one for you to think about:
But you are right, TfY- this guy broke the law- no front license plate, and he forgot his license, maybe Ohio has no alcohol in the front seat too. Three strikes?
Violate Step #1 and you might DIE at the hands of a police officer, so says Think for Yourself.
But he was following Step #3, complying with the direction to take his seat belt off.
BANG. He’s dead now.
Step #1 is important!

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/07/29/university-of-cincinnati-police-officer-body-cam-shooting-vo.cnn/video/playlists/cincinnati-traffic-stop-shooting-sam-dubose/

By: Easterner

Easterner — Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:09:51 +0000

Let’s just take one example to disprove TfY’s opinion.

Timar Rice was the 12 year old boy in Cleveland shot to DEATH by a cop.

The cop rolls up to the boy within 20 feet and within 3 seconds, the boy is fatally shot– followed by police not doing anything for survival first aid.

TfY Rules:
1) don’t choose to break the law.
Timar was not breaking the law. It is perfectly legal to own and use an airsoft (plastic pellets) gun. Might not be a good idea for a 12 year old, but it is legal. Timar did not raise the gun toward the officers.

2) Don’t assault an officer. Timar did not assault the officers. He did not have the time or inclination to assault either officer in the case.
3) really TfY presents 3 steps, not 2— Comply with with their commands. There was no time to make or comply with demands. “We’re here. Bang Bang!”.

And it is all on video. That’s pretty good evidence to refute a liar police officer.
Of course, that is just one example. There are lots of others, unfortunately most are not recorded on video, and it’s easy for a cop to say, “I was scared”.

So TfY, there is proof. One can follow your stupid 3 steps and still get killed by a cop.
Pretty simple, eh?