Comments on: ACHD Paint Stripes Confusion

By: Zippo

Zippo — Sat, 31 Oct 2015 02:43:52 +0000

I’ve concluded the folks who place the orange construction warning and detour signage cannot read, and perhaps are not drivers either. Considering the low quality of our schools, my conclusion is entirely possible.

They also never return to correctly positions the signs after vandals relocate or remove them.

Meanwhile, count the supers snoozing in the pickups at the job sites. Especially evident before noon.

By: jeff shinn

jeff shinn — Sat, 31 Oct 2015 00:15:49 +0000

And how long until the candles are mowed over by cars, and not replaced?

Look at similar situations around town.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Fri, 30 Oct 2015 20:35:26 +0000

Problem “solved” Guardian.
I went by there today for lunchtime and on both accounts, corrective action was completed – more candles and paint.

You must have VIP status at ACHD.

Still interested in their official reply.

EDITOR NOTE–I also passed by both locations and noticed candlesticks blocking the Main St. entrance to the bike lane and the new paint job at 27th and Fairview. Kudos from the GUARDIAN to ACHD.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Fri, 30 Oct 2015 16:27:24 +0000

Rabula,
True, a cyclist may ride on the left side of a one-way street (provided it is 2 or more lanes)…
That doesn’t make it a bike lane, with the additional rules of a designated lane of travel.

Safety first!

By: rabula

rabula — Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:39:41 +0000

Painted lanes or not, cyclists may ride on either side of a one-way street.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Fri, 30 Oct 2015 01:30:45 +0000

good one bikeboy.

I would say that is state highway when ACHD wants to ignore it and it is within their domain when they want to mess with it.

Although I disagree with your description of the left side of Fairview being an official bike lane through that stretch.
Granted, in your BN photo it shows the dashed line indicating a separate lane, there is no paint on the far side of the lane. It is not currently like that in google images, and no where are there signs or paint in the lane indicating such a bike lane on the left side.
Granted Americana/16th, has bike lanes on both sides, but I don’t recall any other multi-lane one-way street having bike lanes on both side. Do you know of others?

Since your photo was taken, google says they changed the second lane to straight ahead only (we all know how well that works) and added candlesticks to the far side to keep The Guardian out of that “lane”.
It is a lane of nothingness.

By: Jeff Shinn

Jeff Shinn — Fri, 30 Oct 2015 00:16:58 +0000

ACHD’s answer will be more signs. They love signs.

By: rabula

rabula — Thu, 29 Oct 2015 22:05:06 +0000

Main & Fairview are ACHD’s; sock it to ’em!

By: bikeboy

bikeboy — Thu, 29 Oct 2015 18:42:35 +0000

Boy howdy, Mr. Guardian... it really chaps me when a slow-moving bike rider is in the left-hand bike lane! haha! You missed the opposite side of Fairview (at 27th), where what appears to be a bike lane has not one but TWO left-turn lanes potentially crossing it. I snapped a photo, and commented about it, more than 8 years ago HERE. It hasn't changed meaningfully since then. The ACHD will probably wash their hands of these particular examples... I believe they claim that Fairview and Main are STATE highways.

By: Cyclist and driver

Cyclist and driver — Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:57:30 +0000

As a cyclist and a driver I really dislike both Main and Fairview. I have seen cycling commuters nearly hit way too many times at the Fairview and Whitewater intersection and the Main and 27th intersection. On several occasions, a driver, wanting to turn right onto 27th from Main, focused on getting onto the right shoulder, ignored my right turn signal as I waited to turn right, and did not see the cyclist also waiting at the intersection. I attribute part of this to the bad habit of passing on the right regardless of the road, motorists still not watching for cyclists, and ACHD continuing to apply the “one size fits all” paint solution to all freshly chip-sealed roads. From personal experience, getting hit on a freshly chip sealed road really hurts and, for everyone’s sake, something needs to be done – correctly!

Both Fairview and Main appear to me to be excellent candidates for a protected intersection, like the one recently installed in Salt Lake City. Protectedintersection.com has a very well made video showing exactly how they work. I would also like to see PSAs covering road user laws regarding bicycles, and how to navigate the newly painted roadways and intersections.