Comments on: REMINDER: Election Day, Please Vote

By: J Smith

J Smith — Sat, 07 Nov 2015 01:32:53 +0000

I hadn’t heard of Murdoch buying N.G.
He will probably slowly morph it into the EXOTIC ANIMAL HUNTING NETWORK, linked into the Martha Stewart line of animal print fabrics, and the Stone Age Aboriginal Circus show in Las Vegas.

By: J Smith

J Smith — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 23:35:02 +0000

…Matt Drudge saying a Supreme Court Justice told him it was over for him, that they now have the votes to enforce copy write laws.
Then, all we will have is the corporate media propaganda telling us how rosy things are while we eat our daily government bread allocation, with our purified fracking water beverage.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-09/its-over-me-matt-drudge-warns-public-youre-pawn-ghetto-isation-web

EDITOR NOTE–We hesitate to join this boat trolling, but how do you feel about RUPERT MURDOCH owning 70% of the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC?
http://gizmodo.com/national-geographic-is-now-owned-by-a-climate-denier-1729683793

By: J Smith

J Smith — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 19:27:26 +0000

E.W. – “…The more we become a part of the crowd, the more dependent we become on authority. And the more dependent we become, the more defensive we are when presented with new information contrary to “conventional wisdom.” Simply stated, the crowd syndrome inoculates us against reality…”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-13/politicians-manipulated-crowd

Sorry my friend, but it appears you are here for the full hour of argument. I just don’t have time for arguing.

Basin was meant to be bastion in my last comment.

By: Eagle Writer

Eagle Writer — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 16:34:39 +0000

Well J Smith, aren’t you a ray of sunshine. So is it your prediction the Guardian will be shut down this year, or next?

At the risk of being off topic, what is magical about “6 corporations?” Would 8 be better? Who cares.

You claim the internet is “the last basin of truth.” It’s a basin alright, with as much trash as can be found. And of course the truth is there too.

Chomsky writes “The real mass media are basically trying to divert people.” No they aren’t, they are trying to make profits for their investors so they can make their money. Chomsky is a great intellect whose own bias clouds his reason.

But back to the point, which one of the 6 corporations fraudulently put Bieter in office? Or is it more likely that more people than not were satisfied with his mayoring?

By: J Smith

J Smith — Fri, 06 Nov 2015 14:07:44 +0000

E.W. – The first step in learning what is really going on is to turn off your TV and radio, and close that newspaper.
90% of all media is controlled by just 6 corporations that are interrelated, so most everything you hear is carefully crafted nonsense.
The Internet is the last basin of truth, so use it while you can. Matt Drudge recently ended his blog because he said the Oligarchs are soon going to be shuttering the alternative media. Sadly, the Boise Gaurdian will likely be forced into retirement as well.

Here are two great articles that say most of what needs saying on the topic of political corruption by the Oligarchs.

Politicians and the Manipulated Crowd
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-13/politicians-manipulated-crowd

What makes the Mainstream Media Mainstream
http://chomsky.info/199710__/

By: Rod in SE Boise

Rod in SE Boise — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 18:17:58 +0000

The only conclusion I can draw from the large number of non-voters is that things aren’t bad enough to get them out to vote. If Dracula or Frankenstein was Mayor more voters would show up.

By: Eagle Writer

Eagle Writer — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 16:54:31 +0000

J Smith, I would like to see your evidence that “it’s all a fraud.”

I vote in Eagle and saw no fraud in the campaigns nor in the election. And I voted for good people working to make our community better. I actually think those who lost were also good people working for the same.

I am unaware of any “cheap whore politicians” who were in the race, perhaps you can point them out.

BTW, who are the billionaire “owners” who corrupted the Boise election?

By: J Smith

J Smith — Thu, 05 Nov 2015 02:34:21 +0000

Easterner – Statistical sampling does not apply to voting today, because a large percentage know the whole process is corrupt. From the incurious corporate media manipulated by its billionaire owners, to the waterfall of money generated by the grifter business interests, to the cheap whore politicians selling us down the river for pennies on the dollar, it’s all a fraud.

We get the “democracy show”, and the rich folk get richer.

If, instead of voting the way we do, you picked a completely random sample of Boiseans to determine the outcome of an election, I’d wager the result would be a lot of politicians hanging from low tree limbs, swinging in the breeze.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 23:07:51 +0000

JJ, based on statistical samples the 9% represents the whole population +/- some minor amount %- certainly not enough of a variable to conclude anything other than the outcome.

I find it more interesting the comparison of the Bieter vote vs the other city races.
The Open Space Levy got a total of 32,957 votes. The yes vote count of the levy was 24,516
Bieter only got 22,722 votes.

So almost 2,000 pro-tax people actually didn’t vote for Bieter despite the fact the levy was his baby. Or, 7% of the people voting for the Levy also voted against Bieter.

There were 4,409 more votes in the mayor contest than the next closest (by # of votes cast) council contest.

If you look at the anti-incumbent voters as a group you get-

Peavey-derr 8,716 + Holden 1,489 = 10,205
Hawes – 9,825
Martinez -8,583
Against levy -8,441
So more people voted against Bieter than those voting against the other “liberal” choices.

If you look at the 3 non-mayor contests there was about 9,000 voters against the incumbents – yet in the mayor’s race there was 10,205.

My conclusion- there are more Anti-Bieter people than their are “anti-liberal” people.

“Well Mayor, you can’t please everyone.”

By: PJ

PJ — Wed, 04 Nov 2015 22:55:14 +0000

So what does the mayor do with his $180,000 personal slush fund? Since he spent next to none of it.

I think he should deposit the entire amount to the foothills levy fund. Otherwise it is just a way to line his pockets.