The story you mentioned about the vacuum cleaner rings true. I can remember many times when either myself or my wife would be vacuuming the carpet in base housing when we would turn off the vacuum we would hear F15’s launching That’s slang for what you sillyvillians call taking off)we couldn’t hear them when the vacuum was running…. and we lived within a mile of the run way.
I wish Col Iverson would make Boise and the entire valley off limits since you all don’t want the noise AF makes how about you do without the money the AF brings in. It sure wont be the first time a town learned the hard way how much having a base frequent a town means just ask the mayor of Biloxi MS.

I will to the cheers of most say sayonara to this blog. Take your best (albeit pathetic irrelevant shots)I have moved out of the area.. and as soon as my house sells will have no ties to what once was a nice area. Back in the day (mid 80s) it was not infested with whiners and crybabies. It was an area where there was no crime, drugs, or murders by cops. Unfortunately it has become just the opposite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFrDIZGg9uU

When the facts support the client’s opinion, the job is easy. When the facts conflict with the desired outcome, the consultant must expand the study assumptions until the assumptions are broad enough to provide some justification.

While unfortunate, what the neighbors really need to do is start their own GoFundMe account and fund their own noise study. Until the neighborhood fights studies with other studies, they will always be demoted to NIMBY whiners, they need facts and reports on their side. Or maybe their report will say F-35’s not really that bad????

I’m afraid that the F-35 is a hanger queen that will spend a lot of time getting worked on, which will make it quiet enough, but then our pockets will be picked clean, or just more debt printed for our kids to pay later, just to have these things. Noise vs debt….neither a good choice.

When I fly into Denver, the airport is extremely far from town, obviously not the first airport, the preceding airport was close to Denver neighborhoods, it was moved for various reasons, I assume one of them was to find a location more compatible for City growth and neighbor issues. Denver reviewed alternative sites in the early 1980’s, and didn’t get it done until the mid 1990’s.

My point is there seems to be a precedence that airports move away from the population as those airports grow more incompatible with the surrounding area, or as those airports need more room for growth. I actually think moving the Denver airport in 15 years is probably actually fast given the bureaucracy and investment needed.

What will our airport needs be in 20, 30 or 50 years? Will the current location serve that growth? Before we double down on BOI and possibly need a hundred million to buy hundreds or thousands of homes, let’s look further out. Maybe another runway a few miles out for military and cargo makes sense, frees up more proximate terminals and runways for passenger flight growth.

“Building more fire stations” for NEW houses going into the foothills is different than “the existing homeowners know the risk of future fires and the rest of us should not have to pay to protect their homes”.

In any case, real estate can be a risky choice with an inherent moral hazard.
Airport. Wildfires. Flooding. Vehicle traffic. BSU students/games. In-fill. Levies. Bad Neighbors. Etc.

Perhaps a better analogy is the houses along the river.
Spring floods? Bummer!

Airport traffic changes; so does the river based on other developments, more asphalt, changes in the actual flood plain, weather, and budgets of agencies.

Guardian, this is a quote from your post about Eagle flooding on 4/23/2006:

“It is hard to generate much sympathy for owners of homes with three car garages, private fishing lakes, walking trails, club houses, and all kinds of private access to the river that many Idahoans consider a public asset for everyone to use. ”

During the floods of 2006, the Guardian, asked (with a sarcastic tone?)
“How about some sympathy for the guy in Eagle who ruined his new “Nordstrom Pants” while rescuing his Audi car?”

In the same post:
–Floods are good for the economy. The ACHD workers get overtime, repairmen get work, and landscapers have jobs.

Let’s replace “floods” with “f-35”:
-F-35s are good for the economy. The airport workers get overtime, contractors get work installing soundproofing in houses, and doctors will get more patients suffering from sleeplessness.

River = Airport.
Everything is relative.
🙂

It’s a fair question. Sweeping grass fire threats in the foothills, long response times and maybe a volunteer fire department in the countryside, highway noise that just gets louder if you’re near the interstate, all locations come with creeping downsides.

Our other (out of state) home is within a good 5 iron of the railroad, and sometimes at night they rattle, creak and bang us awake. We smile and enjoy – trains are cool. Then we go back to sleep.

It’s not a lack of sympathy, but rather a different view on evolving communities. We are more likely to leave the TV if it becomes an immigrant haven that we are to noise. There are no assurances the community we joined and invested in will remain one where we wish to stay. Life is uncertain.