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		By: ???????????		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/01/14/valley-ride-missed-the-bus-despite-growth/#comment-101089</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2016 23:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lucy James... were you stoned when you wrote that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucy James&#8230; were you stoned when you wrote that?</p>
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		By: Lucy James		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/01/14/valley-ride-missed-the-bus-despite-growth/#comment-101085</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucy James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2016 07:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When maximum of the cash is flushed out of the oil manufacturing and peak drillers go ruined, imagine oil charges to go for a moonshot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When maximum of the cash is flushed out of the oil manufacturing and peak drillers go ruined, imagine oil charges to go for a moonshot.</p>
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		By: The Trump Card		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/01/14/valley-ride-missed-the-bus-despite-growth/#comment-100944</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Trump Card]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, we elect Trump and redirect the attention of the &quot;feds&quot; into finding a new career.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, we elect Trump and redirect the attention of the &#8220;feds&#8221; into finding a new career.</p>
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		By: Daphne@mobile repairing		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/01/14/valley-ride-missed-the-bus-despite-growth/#comment-100942</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daphne@mobile repairing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2016 05:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The entire thing is being driven by the feds. they are telling local people that transport framework must be extended or their will be no government cash for any roadway ventures]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire thing is being driven by the feds. they are telling local people that transport framework must be extended or their will be no government cash for any roadway ventures</p>
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		By: sania@SEO Training institutes		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/01/14/valley-ride-missed-the-bus-despite-growth/#comment-100874</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sania@SEO Training institutes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The entire thing is being driven by the feds. they are telling local people that transport framework must be extended or their will be no government cash for any parkway ventures]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire thing is being driven by the feds. they are telling local people that transport framework must be extended or their will be no government cash for any parkway ventures</p>
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		By: Jimmy D Bus		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/01/14/valley-ride-missed-the-bus-despite-growth/#comment-100832</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy D Bus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2016 06:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hold onto that thought about buses in Canyon County Chicago Sam.  The next article will focus on Canyon County operations.  If you thought Boise was bad ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold onto that thought about buses in Canyon County Chicago Sam.  The next article will focus on Canyon County operations.  If you thought Boise was bad &#8230;</p>
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		By: Yossarian_22		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/01/14/valley-ride-missed-the-bus-despite-growth/#comment-100819</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yossarian_22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I used to work on local transportation issues years back. The whole problem stems from Boise&#039;s sprawl that creates barriers to coming up with a decent solution for those w/o cars. It is a hub n spoke model, for the most part. These are very limiting and you don&#039;t get much efficient ridership in the aggregate. One of the possible solutions is to treat the whole valley like a satellite system. Instead of making everyone transit through a hub to get to their ultimate destination, we need to create satellite hubs closer to the initial points of rider origins. Those hubs should be supplying the lions share of what they need in shops and services. Routes would be shorter, more frequent in circulation and cheaper overall. This can cut down on the long and inefficient outer rim to downtown needs. 

Funding- VRT has long been saddled with relying on federal $$ to keep alive. The local option tax is what they want to use to supplement the funding, but that is a no starter with the leg. A local option tax would add a fraction of a penny to each sale within the Boise area. Lenore Barrett fought this by saying she didn&#039;t want to pay for a bus that she doesn&#039;t ride. Fair enough, but I don&#039;t want to pay property taxes for stuff she uses that I don&#039;t, either. I personally believe that a more wide and deep payments and settlements tax could replace both the sales tax, property tax and income tax. It would be tied to economic activity vs confiscating income and property, and much more useful that a shallower sales tax. But, that&#039;s asking for a lot from a decadent legislature.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work on local transportation issues years back. The whole problem stems from Boise&#8217;s sprawl that creates barriers to coming up with a decent solution for those w/o cars. It is a hub n spoke model, for the most part. These are very limiting and you don&#8217;t get much efficient ridership in the aggregate. One of the possible solutions is to treat the whole valley like a satellite system. Instead of making everyone transit through a hub to get to their ultimate destination, we need to create satellite hubs closer to the initial points of rider origins. Those hubs should be supplying the lions share of what they need in shops and services. Routes would be shorter, more frequent in circulation and cheaper overall. This can cut down on the long and inefficient outer rim to downtown needs. </p>
<p>Funding- VRT has long been saddled with relying on federal $$ to keep alive. The local option tax is what they want to use to supplement the funding, but that is a no starter with the leg. A local option tax would add a fraction of a penny to each sale within the Boise area. Lenore Barrett fought this by saying she didn&#8217;t want to pay for a bus that she doesn&#8217;t ride. Fair enough, but I don&#8217;t want to pay property taxes for stuff she uses that I don&#8217;t, either. I personally believe that a more wide and deep payments and settlements tax could replace both the sales tax, property tax and income tax. It would be tied to economic activity vs confiscating income and property, and much more useful that a shallower sales tax. But, that&#8217;s asking for a lot from a decadent legislature.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/01/14/valley-ride-missed-the-bus-despite-growth/#comment-100818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe Mr. Gribble has it about right.

In addition, I believe the Feds have severely curtailed the funds they kick in for public transit, over the last 30 years or so.

The bus is my &quot;backup&quot; transporation, for those rare occasions when I can&#039;t ride the bike.  (I took one trip on it in December.  A bargain at $1!)

If it were practical and time-efficient, I believe a lot more people, at least the close-in people, would ride.  As long as another mode of transportation seems more attractive, for whaver reason, that other mode will be chosen.

(Last month we visited SLC - they&#039;ve got a pretty good public transportation system, combining light rail and buses.  But they kick in a bit of local-option sales tax to fund it... and it&#039;s not perfect.  Apparently the buses don&#039;t run on Sunday.  But they run pretty late into the evening, I believe.  We rode the TRAX light rail - AWESOME!!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Mr. Gribble has it about right.</p>
<p>In addition, I believe the Feds have severely curtailed the funds they kick in for public transit, over the last 30 years or so.</p>
<p>The bus is my &#8220;backup&#8221; transporation, for those rare occasions when I can&#8217;t ride the bike.  (I took one trip on it in December.  A bargain at $1!)</p>
<p>If it were practical and time-efficient, I believe a lot more people, at least the close-in people, would ride.  As long as another mode of transportation seems more attractive, for whaver reason, that other mode will be chosen.</p>
<p>(Last month we visited SLC &#8211; they&#8217;ve got a pretty good public transportation system, combining light rail and buses.  But they kick in a bit of local-option sales tax to fund it&#8230; and it&#8217;s not perfect.  Apparently the buses don&#8217;t run on Sunday.  But they run pretty late into the evening, I believe.  We rode the TRAX light rail &#8211; AWESOME!!)</p>
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		By: J Smith		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/01/14/valley-ride-missed-the-bus-despite-growth/#comment-100815</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 20:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When most of the money is flushed out of the oil industry and most drillers go bankrupt, expect oil prices to go for a moon-shot. 
$10 or $15 gasoline will surely expand ridership for Valley Ride.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When most of the money is flushed out of the oil industry and most drillers go bankrupt, expect oil prices to go for a moon-shot.<br />
$10 or $15 gasoline will surely expand ridership for Valley Ride.</p>
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		By: chicago sam		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/01/14/valley-ride-missed-the-bus-despite-growth/#comment-100814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chicago sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2016 18:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to the buses--In Canyon county many of the bus routes could be served by a smart car. Does it make cents for the one size fits all and bigger is better folks to continue to drain our respective treasury&#039;s?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the buses&#8211;In Canyon county many of the bus routes could be served by a smart car. Does it make cents for the one size fits all and bigger is better folks to continue to drain our respective treasury&#8217;s?</p>
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