Comments on: Forest Service Wants To Route 630 Truckloads Of Logs Over Ada Streets

By: Muck Raker

Muck Raker — Thu, 02 Jun 2016 15:59:04 +0000

Significant improvement of the Harris Creek road from the summit to Horseshoe Bend would be a good thing – for recreationists as well as loggers.

About the mayor’s typo: Every writer should have an editor.

By: erico49

erico49 — Sun, 29 May 2016 15:01:32 +0000

Perhaps we wicked flatlanders should just stop spending money in Horseshoe Bend or Idaho City. I didn’t realize we were such users and abusers.

By: Westsider

Westsider — Sun, 29 May 2016 03:42:04 +0000

No one notice the typo in Team Dave’s letter: breaking. Should be ‘braking’.

Get a new proofreader, Dave.

EDITOR NOTE–As one who has no proof reader, I vote we give him a pass on that one.

By: JustaWondering

JustaWondering — Sat, 28 May 2016 17:19:49 +0000

Has any one considered that this is to support Boise’s overreaching Ridges to Rivers long range plan. Must Boise County always be used and abused by the politicos and flatlanders? Camping, dumping of trash, excrement with toilet paper and campfires left burning is now normal.

In this case the FS is attempting to improve the forest that the City can see to the north and looking to provide additional Recreational Access and expierences for the public.

What happened to “Our Boise Foothills” an Interagency Foothills Management Plan? http://www.boisecounty.us/Content/Site101/Articles/01_01_2008/806DRAFT2014Int_00000007217.pdf

By: Yossarian_22

Yossarian_22 — Sat, 28 May 2016 15:15:49 +0000

I grew up in my earliest years on 7th Street. I remember yuge logging trucks bringing timber down 8th Street in the summertime. They went real slow and no one cared. Things have changed and I don’t think anyone would even consider 8th Street as a passable route for logging these days. If they use Cartwright then that means Harrison or Hill Rd will be seeing these rigs. I wonder if those folks are screaming yet. Why can’t they use Dry Creek Rd to Hwy 55? Would be nice to have rail as an option but coulda, woulda, shoulda.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Fri, 27 May 2016 22:34:55 +0000

More info for anyone interested
http://www.fs.usda.gov/detailfull/boise/home/?cid=fseprd494604&width=full

page 22 and 23 here has the haul route info–
http://a123.g.akamai.net/7/123/11558/abc123/forestservic.download.akamai.com/11558/www/nepa/102732_FSPLT3_3011733.pdf

A little better explanation from ACHD would be nice. But then, who cares? Denied!

Hopefully the routes do go through Boise County and Boise County gets rewarded nicely $ for the result- for example, hiring locals to do the required road maintenance- but that would require some thought from USFS.

Log it, graze it, or watch it burn. It all costs money!

EDITOR NOTE–In our discussion with ACHD staff no one mentioned the merits of the project. The only concern they had was using ACHD roads instead of retaining the entire project within Boise County. ACHD denied the request saying the alternative haul roads through Horseshoe Bend were a better choice.

By: Dave Kangas

Dave Kangas — Fri, 27 May 2016 17:58:50 +0000

To me it appears USFS goofed by asking permission. After all, with all the construction going, moving vans, delivery vans etc, what’s the beef? Seriously, we have probably hundreds of concrete trucks, sand trucks, asphalt trucks running all over the place, but a logging truck? Hell No! Makes no sense to me. I guess we could just let it all burn and put another nail into the fight for state control of public lands.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Fri, 27 May 2016 17:46:25 +0000

ACHD would “not allow public streets to be used as ‘haul roads’ for a logging operation.”

But hauling loads of cement and steel to build tall buildings downtown is perfectly fine.

Dump trucks loaded with dirt going to and from new subdivisions is normal.

Giant empty buses traveling in downtown is okay.

A semi trailer loaded with petroleum traveling around to the many gas stations in town is perfectly harmless.

Instead of focusing on the material and reason, let’s consider the weight per tire. What are those numbers?

If ACHD has fails to provide a route for industry- they FAIL overall.

At some point it could be an absolute necessity to haul timber from the Boise Front… then what?

EDITOR NOTE–As we understand it, there is a “haul road route,” over the back side of the mountain to Highway 55 near Horseshoe Bend. USFS didn’t want to spend the money to upgrade it for log trucks, instead proposing 630 trips through Boise.

By: Trevor

Trevor — Fri, 27 May 2016 16:45:00 +0000

Thank you ACHD…. stand your ground.

Our roads,sacred ground.

By: Trevor

Trevor — Fri, 27 May 2016 16:42:54 +0000

Clancy….
you are spot on, monkey business indeed, and like any good space chimp in the goofy-zoo i hereby throw my last banana at the king himself, may he have a slip and slide on the issue….this one…not a real slip and fall, just another deepdive on team dave, the rush to approve, the john wayin’ days are over…the dragon from the south, east, north, and west seem to want dave and his terra-non-firma to go falling down….court beckons from an honest and clean territory.

logjam, parking strategies…abuse in the ranks… just rank.

call in the experts. if the will come….flush. see you when in smells better at city hall.

lost millions to ol dave and cowboy butcher…. yeah, sunset.

then sunrise. clean your house boise…protect the people on the roads,on their bikes…that was what dave sold you – #1 #1 #1…

#0.
not a dime was returned.
see you in Fed Court Dave…Chris too…. p-YOU.