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You are right. Police sure do contribute to public safety. Once upon a time it said ‘To Serve and Protect’ on the cars. That’s exactly what I’m harping about; public safety is at risk. Society in general and the economy is at risk too. The cops are the builders of the Us and Them wall causing fear instead of trust. You can’t do anything without the public’s help and money. And you are losing that badly. Even Trump knows there needs to be yuge changes to police forces.

Can’t pen over it anymore because someone recorded it. The root of the issue is the tremendous power being abused. In such a profession, only one turd in the pool is too many. In this country there are probably 20 episodes a day of egregious life changing abuses. Thousands a day more of coppers visiting women while the husband/boyfriend is in jail, and many similar misdeeds.

It’s a systemic problem. SYSTEMIC. Only one turd is too many when the turd has police powers. If we can’t improve the cop as you claim, then we must reduce the power. Denying the problem puts the country at risk in several ways.

Did you know cops are 30% of the total Boise budget? Holy crap! Make me feel better and hire a real Ombudsman with a sliver of that money.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/investigators-boise-officer-fell-asleep-before-hitting-car/20864396

http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/the-over-under-on-pierce-murphy/Content?oid=3845800

Policing has changed forever; the police report is not mightier than the video anymore because the people now get the video before the editors. I wonder if the Minnesota cops destroyed the camera in the aftermath thinking they cleaned up the problem? Arrested the woman, why? Can I see their reports and discussion transcripts up until they found out it was broadcast?

Drifting into the danger zone: The Minnesota shooting might be found justifiable, but why? How did we get here? Why is a cop’s life more important than mine during a traffic stop? In recent times the copper simply ‘feeling scared’ has become reason enough to kill. You are on here to push that concept on us too? The threat no longer needs to be real, the copper no longer actually needs to be in danger… he just needs to ‘feel fear’ and that’s enough to kill. I’ve had a copper point a gun at me because it was dark and he was scared of my beer can in my private backyard which he wrongfully intruded into (his call was at the next condo over, but he was fat and my gate was unlocked). Well, the jury of public opinion finds this fearful concept for killing unacceptable now that we can see it, rather than reading it in the bullcrap of police reports and internal investigations.

So, now because the mess can no longer be cleaned up with creative writing, the jumpy aggressive training will change too. We will stop hiring jittery meatheads from the football world. Problem cops will be fired. A nation cop license and records file will track the cop from job to job so departments can’t deny knowledge of problems. And then, the dangerous aggressive intimidating bothering of ordinary people over small harmless stuff will stop. Public recordings are showing even the strongest police supporters what really happened vs. the tradition of cleaning up the mess with post action reports. Powerful minds are changing.

Yes, the coppers have a lot of money and power, but it is granted by the people. Forcing such changes will mean changing the largest private-public-corporate business entity in America back into a simple civil service again. In the future a broken taillight will be pointed out with a letter. Guns will only be pointed at people who present a true dangerous threat.

We have to do it; no nation will continue to survive having so many people harassed and imprisoned buy a Criminal Justice business. It is hamstringing the economy of the nation in addition to outraging those who’ve been damaged by it. No doubt we have bad guys and need cops, but we do not need dangerous encounters for broken taillights, that’s just not American, and it’s actually oppressive and very damaging to the nation. We will be a better nation if we police that which is harmful rather than policing for profit.

I do not condone violence. The calls for warfare from either side are criminal.

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As for the original thread, looks like a fairly reasonable situation with the appropriate ending, but many details missing. The faster all the cards are shown the more credible the government. As I said before, I want to see where all the shots landed and who shot who. I want to know how many people came close to getting killed by stray bullets, if any. And I want to know why Boise has chosen to have a weak independent oversight office.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-traffic-stop-in-minnesota-1467875899

Cop need to stop initiating encounters that lead to jumpy cops shooting people.

No amount of PR or bullying will change the police history in America. (At least it’s tremendously cleaner than most places.) Another example right here in our own backyard. How many times have the witnesses to the rancher shooting been interviewed? Why?

The only time I wear the tinfoil hat is to protect from stellar radiation at cruise altitude over the poles. At least I’m not fling a jammer anymore… could cook lunch with that pod.

As for this particular episode, I think it’s a very straight forward deal. What I’m most curious about is how many holes did the police poke in the surrounding area homes, cars, etc. And to be clear about who shot who.