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		By: Y-tutu		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/08/02/carjack-attempt-ends-in-death-of-suspect/#comment-101824</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2016 16:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/08/02/carjack-attempt-ends-in-death-of-suspect/#comment-101816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 12:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Y-tutu

You are exactly right. A cops &quot;right to go home&quot; trumps any rights citizens have. I for one am confused about that. Both sides should have rights, unfortunately it seems that LE&#039;s &quot;rights&quot; are worth considerably more than those of the people they work for. LE will tell us that they have no idea of who will and who will not act responsibly with a gun. Unfortunately citizens cannot in this day and age be sure that the individual with a badge will act responsibly either. The Yantis case is a classic example. 
LE gets way more leeway in these events than they should. Cases where a civilian would be charged cops walk, it makes no sense. Cops should be held to a much higher standard, yet they are barely held to any standard at all.

EDITOR NOTE--Based on detailed research and good reporting by Statesman reporter Cynthia Sewell, http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article100319382.html it appears the Elmore incident was a long time coming and not much to dump on deputies.  Sad case of 16 years of crime and mental health issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y-tutu</p>
<p>You are exactly right. A cops &#8220;right to go home&#8221; trumps any rights citizens have. I for one am confused about that. Both sides should have rights, unfortunately it seems that LE&#8217;s &#8220;rights&#8221; are worth considerably more than those of the people they work for. LE will tell us that they have no idea of who will and who will not act responsibly with a gun. Unfortunately citizens cannot in this day and age be sure that the individual with a badge will act responsibly either. The Yantis case is a classic example.<br />
LE gets way more leeway in these events than they should. Cases where a civilian would be charged cops walk, it makes no sense. Cops should be held to a much higher standard, yet they are barely held to any standard at all.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Based on detailed research and good reporting by Statesman reporter Cynthia Sewell, <a href="http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article100319382.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article100319382.html</a> it appears the Elmore incident was a long time coming and not much to dump on deputies.  Sad case of 16 years of crime and mental health issues.</p>
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		By: Y-tutu		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/08/02/carjack-attempt-ends-in-death-of-suspect/#comment-101716</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Y-tutu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2016 20:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something everyone needs to understand about carrying a weapon.  The cops can and often do shoot you if they see it.  It&#039;s not weather you point it at them or not.  Does not matter if you are within your rights or even in your own home.  Kids with toys in walmart?  Bamm bamm bamm.  If they see it they can shoot and the government will write them a pass no matter how farfetched their explanation.

This particular situation sounds like it ended appropriately as the suspect was clearly running and being deadly dangerous to others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something everyone needs to understand about carrying a weapon.  The cops can and often do shoot you if they see it.  It&#8217;s not weather you point it at them or not.  Does not matter if you are within your rights or even in your own home.  Kids with toys in walmart?  Bamm bamm bamm.  If they see it they can shoot and the government will write them a pass no matter how farfetched their explanation.</p>
<p>This particular situation sounds like it ended appropriately as the suspect was clearly running and being deadly dangerous to others.</p>
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		By: Las Vegas Rebel		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/08/02/carjack-attempt-ends-in-death-of-suspect/#comment-101710</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Las Vegas Rebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan-Does it really matter if the truck was stolen or not?   He attempted to car jack 2 people which are felonies. Instead of obeying deputies commands to drop his weapon he raises it at them.  Are the deputies supposed to wait until he shoots first and then return fire?   Everyone is taught in any gun safety class to not point a gun at anything they don&#039;t intend to shoot. Maybe he was going to shoot or maybe it was his way of committing suicide.  Either way the deputies did as they were trained and went home safe to their families.  The deputies were not on the hunt that day for someone to kill despite what you may think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan-Does it really matter if the truck was stolen or not?   He attempted to car jack 2 people which are felonies. Instead of obeying deputies commands to drop his weapon he raises it at them.  Are the deputies supposed to wait until he shoots first and then return fire?   Everyone is taught in any gun safety class to not point a gun at anything they don&#8217;t intend to shoot. Maybe he was going to shoot or maybe it was his way of committing suicide.  Either way the deputies did as they were trained and went home safe to their families.  The deputies were not on the hunt that day for someone to kill despite what you may think.</p>
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		By: dave zarkin		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/08/02/carjack-attempt-ends-in-death-of-suspect/#comment-101709</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dave zarkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this is your kind of story -- coppers in action, guns loaded.  What kind of car stolen?  Datsun?  Keep up the good work. daze]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is your kind of story &#8212; coppers in action, guns loaded.  What kind of car stolen?  Datsun?  Keep up the good work. daze</p>
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		By: Flyhead		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/08/02/carjack-attempt-ends-in-death-of-suspect/#comment-101708</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flyhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2016 03:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This guy crossed the line when he directed deadly force toward citizens and Deputies.  It calls for 2-to the chest and 1-to the head until he drops or the magazines are empty. 

Well done by the Deputies and shame on anyone who thinks otherwise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy crossed the line when he directed deadly force toward citizens and Deputies.  It calls for 2-to the chest and 1-to the head until he drops or the magazines are empty. </p>
<p>Well done by the Deputies and shame on anyone who thinks otherwise.</p>
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		By: Dan Rieser		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/08/02/carjack-attempt-ends-in-death-of-suspect/#comment-101707</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Rieser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2016 21:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bloodthirsty comments patting the hero cops on the back for saving us from the evildoer... Then it turns out the truck he &quot;stole&quot; wasn&#039;t really stolen at all, and he was attempting carjackings because the cops were actually hunting him down to kill him. Totalitarian dictatorships love the &quot; good German&quot; types who cheer on state violence. This one was probably justified, but best to wait for an investigation before having a copper love-fest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloodthirsty comments patting the hero cops on the back for saving us from the evildoer&#8230; Then it turns out the truck he &#8220;stole&#8221; wasn&#8217;t really stolen at all, and he was attempting carjackings because the cops were actually hunting him down to kill him. Totalitarian dictatorships love the &#8221; good German&#8221; types who cheer on state violence. This one was probably justified, but best to wait for an investigation before having a copper love-fest.</p>
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		By: nate calvin		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/08/02/carjack-attempt-ends-in-death-of-suspect/#comment-101706</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nate calvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2016 20:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good shooting ISP!!  Saved us tax payers the money of a trial and 20 yrs of room and board--Well done SIR, Well done!!

EDITOR NOTE--Nate, your compliments are misplaced.  The coppers were Elmore Deputy sheriffs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good shooting ISP!!  Saved us tax payers the money of a trial and 20 yrs of room and board&#8211;Well done SIR, Well done!!</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Nate, your compliments are misplaced.  The coppers were Elmore Deputy sheriffs.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2016 17:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting use of the word &quot;suspect&quot; in the headline. 

He was a suspect and cops killed him?  

Typical media and press release wording.  

I can&#039;t wait to see the trial when he is converted from a suspect to a criminal.

EDITOR NOTE--He was indeed a suspect because no court or jury had convicted him, thus &quot;converting&quot; his status.
Society and the law considered him innocent until proven guilty.  Coppers position was GUILTY, otherwise they wouldn&#039;t have shot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting use of the word &#8220;suspect&#8221; in the headline. </p>
<p>He was a suspect and cops killed him?  </p>
<p>Typical media and press release wording.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see the trial when he is converted from a suspect to a criminal.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;He was indeed a suspect because no court or jury had convicted him, thus &#8220;converting&#8221; his status.<br />
Society and the law considered him innocent until proven guilty.  Coppers position was GUILTY, otherwise they wouldn&#8217;t have shot.</p>
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		By: Y-tutu		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/08/02/carjack-attempt-ends-in-death-of-suspect/#comment-101693</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Y-tutu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2016 18:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a great example of why we need armed police.  The police boz and gals did a great job this time.  (Unless others were in the line of fire.)

YossTuTu, I agree about carry, however in this situation with the coppers so close by they&#039;d probably shoot a person defending themselves as well.  Cops reflexively shoot anyone with a gun deployed.  Cops even shoot other cops sometimes.  

Too bad a truck didn&#039;t squish him.  but at least no trial and the family seems to know it was coming.

Carry time is going to end nationwide on January 21st when Hillary &#039;The Penguin&#039; and her band of crooks is sworn in.  So sad Trump&#039;s douche-bag act is not an act.

Carry won&#039;t help the most dangerous public hazard we encounter most often; the text-driver.  Stand at a busy intersection and watch.  65% of drivers are looking at phone while moving and 90% when stopped.  Often that ever so common tailgater is not being aggressive, her autopilot is locked onto your taillights.  It&#039;s not Angry Hairy back there, it&#039;s Sweet Sally sending pictures to her friends.  Phone in right and smoke in left.  Notice the wrinkled hood on all the young drivers cars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great example of why we need armed police.  The police boz and gals did a great job this time.  (Unless others were in the line of fire.)</p>
<p>YossTuTu, I agree about carry, however in this situation with the coppers so close by they&#8217;d probably shoot a person defending themselves as well.  Cops reflexively shoot anyone with a gun deployed.  Cops even shoot other cops sometimes.  </p>
<p>Too bad a truck didn&#8217;t squish him.  but at least no trial and the family seems to know it was coming.</p>
<p>Carry time is going to end nationwide on January 21st when Hillary &#8216;The Penguin&#8217; and her band of crooks is sworn in.  So sad Trump&#8217;s douche-bag act is not an act.</p>
<p>Carry won&#8217;t help the most dangerous public hazard we encounter most often; the text-driver.  Stand at a busy intersection and watch.  65% of drivers are looking at phone while moving and 90% when stopped.  Often that ever so common tailgater is not being aggressive, her autopilot is locked onto your taillights.  It&#8217;s not Angry Hairy back there, it&#8217;s Sweet Sally sending pictures to her friends.  Phone in right and smoke in left.  Notice the wrinkled hood on all the young drivers cars.</p>
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