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		By: Aggrieved Party		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/11/15/no-means-no-not-maybe-or-later/#comment-102106</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2016 15:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[New information regarding CWI expenditures in support of new bonding:.

“CWI $370,000 ad blitz: Beach balls, baked goods and high-priced consultants”


http://idahoreporter.com/38891/cwi-370000-ad-blitz-beach-balls-baked-goods-high-priced-consultants/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New information regarding CWI expenditures in support of new bonding:.</p>
<p>“CWI $370,000 ad blitz: Beach balls, baked goods and high-priced consultants”</p>
<p><a href="http://idahoreporter.com/38891/cwi-370000-ad-blitz-beach-balls-baked-goods-high-priced-consultants/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://idahoreporter.com/38891/cwi-370000-ad-blitz-beach-balls-baked-goods-high-priced-consultants/</a></p>
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		By: westernguy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/11/15/no-means-no-not-maybe-or-later/#comment-102081</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[westernguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s not the whole problem is partially correct:  BSU and UI want to be &#039;research&#039; institutions, which doesn&#039;t help the regular student LEARN.  It only helps the schools get more federal research grants.

And K-12 in Idaho continues to send out people who can&#039;t read, write, or cipher.  Amazing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not the whole problem is partially correct:  BSU and UI want to be &#8216;research&#8217; institutions, which doesn&#8217;t help the regular student LEARN.  It only helps the schools get more federal research grants.</p>
<p>And K-12 in Idaho continues to send out people who can&#8217;t read, write, or cipher.  Amazing.</p>
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		By: That's not the whole problem		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/11/15/no-means-no-not-maybe-or-later/#comment-102080</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[That's not the whole problem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2016 18:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CWI is all the stuff that BSU and ISU and U-I didn&#039;t want on their campus.  

CWI is also a direct result of the failure of K-12, and failure of parenting, to produce a student who can be successful at BSU... or in life.  BSU is really really easy people!  So we are in deep if we need this crop of idiots to pay our bills when we get old.  Funding their unemployment while they go to a college for a ditch digger profession is just stupid on our part.  Stupid.  They leave this school with $$ debt and the ability to earn how much?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHPfgsTVTjA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CWI is all the stuff that BSU and ISU and U-I didn&#8217;t want on their campus.  </p>
<p>CWI is also a direct result of the failure of K-12, and failure of parenting, to produce a student who can be successful at BSU&#8230; or in life.  BSU is really really easy people!  So we are in deep if we need this crop of idiots to pay our bills when we get old.  Funding their unemployment while they go to a college for a ditch digger profession is just stupid on our part.  Stupid.  They leave this school with $$ debt and the ability to earn how much?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHPfgsTVTjA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHPfgsTVTjA</a></p>
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		By: westernguy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/11/15/no-means-no-not-maybe-or-later/#comment-102078</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[westernguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Inna:

The CWI line on your property tax bill (Canyon or Ada counties) isn&#039;t a bond.  It&#039;s their regular annual property tax billing, just like school districts, city and county governments, fire and EMS districts, etc.

The cost of being a citizen.  Educated or otherwise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Inna:</p>
<p>The CWI line on your property tax bill (Canyon or Ada counties) isn&#8217;t a bond.  It&#8217;s their regular annual property tax billing, just like school districts, city and county governments, fire and EMS districts, etc.</p>
<p>The cost of being a citizen.  Educated or otherwise.</p>
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		By: Inna		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/11/15/no-means-no-not-maybe-or-later/#comment-102073</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2016 21:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is what I did not like about new CWI bond. The previous one has not been paid off yet, it is on my tax bill.
And they were asking for more. When would that end?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I did not like about new CWI bond. The previous one has not been paid off yet, it is on my tax bill.<br />
And they were asking for more. When would that end?</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/11/15/no-means-no-not-maybe-or-later/#comment-102064</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Surprise victory... the only surprise was the media didn&#039;t make people vote for billery...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprise victory&#8230; the only surprise was the media didn&#8217;t make people vote for billery&#8230;</p>
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		By: Bieter Begone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bieter Begone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Common Sense.  I&#039;ve always thought the tax bills and assessments should go out BEFORE the primary and general. But I know why they don&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Common Sense.  I&#8217;ve always thought the tax bills and assessments should go out BEFORE the primary and general. But I know why they don&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Common sense		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/11/15/no-means-no-not-maybe-or-later/#comment-102058</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2016 05:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rec&#039;d my tax bill in the mail. CWI is already in our pockets from the last BOND ISSUE at a District Levy Rate of 
.000159508. Call 208-562-3299 tax amount = $26.47.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rec&#8217;d my tax bill in the mail. CWI is already in our pockets from the last BOND ISSUE at a District Levy Rate of<br />
.000159508. Call 208-562-3299 tax amount = $26.47.</p>
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		By: Aggrieved Party		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2016/11/15/no-means-no-not-maybe-or-later/#comment-102040</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aggrieved Party]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is said that Democrats are “tax and spenders” while the Republicans are “borrow and spenders”.
Either way we wound up with mountains of debt…no big surprise.
Regardless of who controlled Congress, Congress has been have been kicking the “national debt can” down the road since at least the year 2000.

One only has to look as far as Nampa to see the same mountains of debt caused by past experiments into pet projects like the Idaho Center, Public Library and a “Public Safety” building. (There is an oxymoron for you!)

The same basic mindset seems to also populate both the Trustees of CWI.
I question whether expansion of colleges like CWI are justified at any level regardless of who pays for their brick and mortar dreams.

Is a two year “college” education sufficient to raise the overall capacity for graduates to actually secure and hold a job with a living wage?

It is always sad to see a student dedicate years of their lives to a purpose and then find they are left with only student loan debt and no marketable skill.

It appears to me that the CWI Trustees are working in an echo chamber where “Damn the torpedoes..FULL speed ahead” is the only mantra being heard.

For years I have watched the self assigned elitest charlatans of our Valley repeatedly marginalize the loyal voices of dissent from taxpayers. 

The reasoning is always the same.  “We” know what is best for you and you do not.
They simply see no reason to listen to anyone who isn’t wholly supportive of their plans.
Pragmatically speaking, behind closed doors protected by “executive session” rules, just about every idea (both good and bad) is hatched.
 
This fact badly tilts the playing field in favor of any “idea” proponents giving ample lead time to buff out their plans in secret.

Those in opposition are all too often left with very short timeframes to accomplish the task of mounting effective countermeasures.
As we have seen, timing is everything when it comes to nudging the needle of public support one way or the other.

The timely production of glossy fliers mass mailed to likely voters is nothing new…only this time  I question the wisdom of using CWI funds to pay for such self-serving one sided propaganda.
IMO, non-profit boards tend to attract power hungry people who think the world needs their opinions (and they find a readymade venue to do just that).

The lack of personal accountability only further encourages them polish their hubris.
Between TIF financing and the latest iteration of the “end run around the voters”, borrowing and debt will continue to be our future.

For many of us who have worked to close these pork barrel spending venues, the only reeal answers are at the legislative level. Unfortunately, the matrix of next year’s legislature will once again be focused on just about everything else but TIF reform. I am not even sure there is a path to address the “long term loan which isn’t a loan” scam via the legislative process.
Comments Dave?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is said that Democrats are “tax and spenders” while the Republicans are “borrow and spenders”.<br />
Either way we wound up with mountains of debt…no big surprise.<br />
Regardless of who controlled Congress, Congress has been have been kicking the “national debt can” down the road since at least the year 2000.</p>
<p>One only has to look as far as Nampa to see the same mountains of debt caused by past experiments into pet projects like the Idaho Center, Public Library and a “Public Safety” building. (There is an oxymoron for you!)</p>
<p>The same basic mindset seems to also populate both the Trustees of CWI.<br />
I question whether expansion of colleges like CWI are justified at any level regardless of who pays for their brick and mortar dreams.</p>
<p>Is a two year “college” education sufficient to raise the overall capacity for graduates to actually secure and hold a job with a living wage?</p>
<p>It is always sad to see a student dedicate years of their lives to a purpose and then find they are left with only student loan debt and no marketable skill.</p>
<p>It appears to me that the CWI Trustees are working in an echo chamber where “Damn the torpedoes..FULL speed ahead” is the only mantra being heard.</p>
<p>For years I have watched the self assigned elitest charlatans of our Valley repeatedly marginalize the loyal voices of dissent from taxpayers. </p>
<p>The reasoning is always the same.  “We” know what is best for you and you do not.<br />
They simply see no reason to listen to anyone who isn’t wholly supportive of their plans.<br />
Pragmatically speaking, behind closed doors protected by “executive session” rules, just about every idea (both good and bad) is hatched.</p>
<p>This fact badly tilts the playing field in favor of any “idea” proponents giving ample lead time to buff out their plans in secret.</p>
<p>Those in opposition are all too often left with very short timeframes to accomplish the task of mounting effective countermeasures.<br />
As we have seen, timing is everything when it comes to nudging the needle of public support one way or the other.</p>
<p>The timely production of glossy fliers mass mailed to likely voters is nothing new…only this time  I question the wisdom of using CWI funds to pay for such self-serving one sided propaganda.<br />
IMO, non-profit boards tend to attract power hungry people who think the world needs their opinions (and they find a readymade venue to do just that).</p>
<p>The lack of personal accountability only further encourages them polish their hubris.<br />
Between TIF financing and the latest iteration of the “end run around the voters”, borrowing and debt will continue to be our future.</p>
<p>For many of us who have worked to close these pork barrel spending venues, the only reeal answers are at the legislative level. Unfortunately, the matrix of next year’s legislature will once again be focused on just about everything else but TIF reform. I am not even sure there is a path to address the “long term loan which isn’t a loan” scam via the legislative process.<br />
Comments Dave?</p>
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		By: erico49		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[erico49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On a somewhat related note: BoiseDev.com reports that CCDC spent $70000 on a new “brand” for parking garages. “Branding” is on the list of terms I could do without ever hearing again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a somewhat related note: BoiseDev.com reports that CCDC spent $70000 on a new “brand” for parking garages. “Branding” is on the list of terms I could do without ever hearing again.</p>
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