Comments on: Otter Joins Bieter Using Citizen Money To Lobby For F-35 At Gowen

By: Susan Fenrich

Susan Fenrich — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 23:43:23 +0000

The government does have rules. One needs to be further away from populated areas. Mountain Home is the only choice. More open area. They just approved Syringa Project. It will be to close. The government doesn’t like that. It is always about money. If moved to Mountain Home the state still gets it.

By: Up to their eyeballs

Up to their eyeballs — Wed, 25 Jan 2017 06:20:00 +0000

Bieter and friends full of crap right up to their eyeballs.

Proof is the following whimpering about ACHD on 1/23 (link below). How passionate of him. F-35 will be good for Boise’s quality of life also?

I don’t believe he is capable of honesty. It’s totally about money. They know the core NorEnd base will always elect them, even if mayor closes their favorite street.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article128313729.html

By: jj

jj — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 16:19:24 +0000

Without an opinion on the F-35 program I just want to say, I have zero confidence in any data or studies put together by Boise, whether it is noise or economic development figures. The trolley is a perfect example of expand the study assumptions until the pre-determined conclusion is justified. Supporters of the F-35 in Boise will “turn the dollar” as many times as needed to show the program works in Boise and not in Mountain Home.

While often attributed to Winston Churchill or Mark Twain, it was Prime Minister Disraeli who said there are three kinds of lies: “Lies, damned lies and statistics”

At all levels of government we are lied to in the form of statistics where carefully crafted assumptions, desired points of view and social or political outcomes serve as the basis that inform the methodology for data collection and information formation.

By: Keith Mitchell

Keith Mitchell — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:36:18 +0000

We all need to communicate with everyone possible about
the incredible negative impact these planes will have on
our neighborhoods and lives! Just a little info: Mountain
Home currently is not an option because in order to be a
site, there has to be parallel runways for training. If Gowen
is chosen, we will have these planes flying 24/7 day and
NIGHT! They have to because it’d be a training site. We/You have no idea of the noise!

By: Joy & Darryl

Joy & Darryl — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:55:28 +0000

Letter to the Mayor and Govenor: It has been announced that you two are teaming up to sell the citizens of Boise Idaho the “benefits” of having the F-35 fighter jets fly over the south west skies of the city. It is said you intend to ask for $100,000 taxpayers’ dollars to lobby for your cause.

Many citizens find your reasoning unreasonable in your sales pitch for the F-35 being located/based at Gowen Field; when in fact they have a perfectly good, actually superior facility at Mountain Home Idaho. Flying over, into and out of the desert and polluting the desert with noise and air pollution makes perfectly good sense; as opposed to your idea of F-35 obnoxious behavior over residential area.

Idea in action:

1. Put in a light rail to transport National Guard F-35 employees to Mountain Home

2. Install a daily shuttle bus service to Mountain Home

3. Install daily air shuttle service to Mountain Home

4. Provide all 3 services to Mountain Home

5. Spend the $100,000.00 on starting these services

Please consider these suggestions very seriously and keep the F-35 out of our neighborhoods because we do not see the benefits.

By: Steve Rinehart

Steve Rinehart — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 00:40:30 +0000

Doesn’t Mountain Home have some reps in the Legislature? Are they awake? You would think they would be making a lot of noise for hometown jobs right now.

EDITOR NOTE–Perhaps someone needs to make a few calls and e-mail messages to the Mt. Home News and politicos over that way.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 23:13:07 +0000

What if the alternative is, the demise of Gowen and no F35 for Mtn Home either?
IF the whole ball of wax goes elsewhere… what is the state’s economic impact of that course?

Seems like $100K to “land that aircraft” is a pretty investment and ROI for Idaho – financially speaking that is.
That’s certainly one standard for spending tax dollars, right?

By: I ran

I ran — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:42:58 +0000

I took the cowards way out. I sold my home and took my retirement money out of Idaho altogether. The corrupt / criminal politicians are out of control.
Basing insanely loud military jets in the center of a huge population center is just plain stupid.
The F35 is a bad plane, period. It’s kind of like that Swiss Army Knife with 30 functions that never leaves the house because it’s too heavy and complicated, minus the high quality.
The only real solution is probably a citizen funded lawsuit, and a lot of community organizing.

By: Voter

Voter — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:23:36 +0000

Governments spending money to influence bond elections and other elections will continue until the legislature passes laws that require that whatever the agency spends to promote the issue that it must donate the same amount to the opposing view.

CWI spent hundreds of thousands to influence their bond (even though it failed). How many PIO’s are there employed by public agencies working to influence the public – at a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

The practice is not fair nor is it right, but since when has that prevented politicians like the Mayor or CWI or the State from doing it? They will continue until they face jail time.

We know they skirt around current laws that are simply not working.

EDITOR NOTE–All true Voter. The problem with the F-35 issue is that it is not an election. It is merely paying to influence the Feds. It will be interesting to see what Trump ends up doing on the fighter aircraft.

By: Yossarian_22

Yossarian_22 — Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:42:11 +0000

The F-35 is one of the most massive spending boondoggles in military history. It is over engineered and over priced, by many time over.

It has way too many bells and whistles and not enough practical features. You can’t make it be a F-16, F-117, A-10 all in one and expect it to function right.

And then on top of this, the Governor and Mayor want to promote it (or any other noisy aircraft) for Boise’s relatively quiet skies. But I guess as long as the Northend will be spared the impact, the Mayor can keep his job, right?