Comments on: Opponents Of F-35 Denied Space Inside Open House

By: Tom Lorentz

Tom Lorentz — Mon, 10 Jul 2017 23:18:25 +0000

I submitted the following letter regarding the to the editor regarding the F-35 to the ID Statesmen weeks ago but it appears they are not going to use. Statesman big F-35 supporters so I suppose they did not like the content. Re-submitted 2day but doubt they will print this time. Here goes:

“Opponents Of F-35 Denied Space Inside Open House” is the title to an online boiseguardian.com article published this past January. According to the article, opponents were denied entry to the open house so people would not become confused. Some open house. A USAF 2012 Environmental Statement shows that at least 10,000 homes will be classified as “NOT SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE” with an estimated loss of home values in the $50-70 million range (based on 2012 prices). Please note that this $50-70 million is coming out of homeowners equity. This is a shameful way to treat existing homeowners, and the citizens of Boise need to know about it and demand that the city and airport deal with residents in good faith.

By: Tom Lorentz

Tom Lorentz — Sun, 21 May 2017 18:41:05 +0000

Keep in mind there are also at least 3 Boise elementary schools in close proximity to the airport. They are Hillcrest, Grace Jordan, and Whitney. West Jr High is also in close proximity. I believe there mayh also be one charter school.

Judging from some of the previous comments it would appear that it is going to be just to damn bad if the kids or anyone else are outside when the F-35’s are active.

As noted in May 3 Statesman letter to the editor, “The F-35 decibels of 105-112 cause pain and hearing loss.

But who gives a damn right, screw the kids and property values as long as Boise gets the F-35’s.

By: Corporate Collective

Corporate Collective — Sat, 28 Jan 2017 19:06:20 +0000

We are Fascists
You will be assimilated
Resistance is futile.

By: Karenya

Karenya — Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:56:10 +0000

Inappropriate to make a Comment that refers to President Trump. Have your say and leave him out of it.

By: Charlene

Charlene — Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:56:33 +0000

You who want to protest the f35 can get a venue and protest all you want. It has nothing to do with the new president. If we have to read this Ridiculousness there’s no sense in even reading your post. Does your whining and complaining about the new administration ever stop? I didn’t think so.

By: jj

jj — Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:37:37 +0000

If the opposition group arrived at the start of the event and requested space inside the venue, I think the airport was right to say no.

If the group requested in advance, space in the venue, and were denied that request while those with a supportive position were given space, then the City is out of line.

By: Concerned Neighbor

Concerned Neighbor — Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:33:03 +0000

I was at the “meeting” last night and have several things to point out:
1. Very, very few people involved are anti-military.
2. Most people are fine with the noise level they moved in here with – passenger planes and A10s.
3. Many people are having problems with F15/F16s already, including far outside the mapped “noise zones”. The F35 is twice as loud, twice the problem.
4. There have been NO avenues for 2 way discussion with Beiter’s city administration. Every type of input has been blocked.
5. The “meeting” was no meeting. It was a dozen or so posters of highly technical yet irrelevant data designed to sideline the real questions.

Massive noise pollution from the F35 do not belong in a growing city. No iffs, ands, or buts. The city administration has fought against its citizens tooth and nail on this, including lying and saying that they have no control. Well guess what? The only real reason the F35 isn’t currently headed to Mountain Home is because the city administration wants it and is sacrificing us for it.

By: Citizen

Citizen — Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:59:26 +0000

My big question is when was the meeting and why is the entire city not aware or notified?

My guess is that the City does not want us to know about these meetings so we cannot show up.

We watch for this kind of stuff and saw nothing about it!

Poor form Mr Mayor!

By: Inna

Inna — Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:19:35 +0000

Boise Airport claims they have some kind of right to impact more homes with noise, based on the BOI being there since 1938.
That does not give them any right to expand the noise footprint.
Since about 1970s FAA has been working to regulate and reduce the airport noise.
Apparently Boise Airport knows they do not have that right, despite claiming so.
They started a new thing called “Airport Influence Area”, some years ago. Via that process they require the existing houses to sign a new avigation easement when homeowner wants to remodel. How can City of Boise require something of homeowners outside of city sign something – it seems illegal to me.
If Boise Airport had a right to expand physical or noise contours, they would not be coersing homeowners to sign their rights away.
And by the way, it is not only a air rights that are being signed away. The Avigational Easement on Boise Airport website is titled “Air and Surface easement”.

By: TFBoy

TFBoy — Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:58:52 +0000

The slant on this story makes it seem like the folks advocating against the ANG were denied a right. The forum was designed as an informational setting for interested parties to come and learn something. It was not a forum for debate. Moreover, the anti folks had the first opportunity to attract the public, in the lobby right in front of the path folks walked toward the forum. The police presence was not intimidating in any sense, unless there was a warrant out for your arrest. Beyond the dubious reporting from the editor, the event was pleasant and informative. It may have addressed some of the concerns of the neighbors and it may not have. The airport staff has zero influence on the decision, yet the staff held an event to allow the ANG to present its information.

EDITOR NOTE–We stand by the slant and acknowledge it is indeed a slant. Previous meeting didn’t have any coppers. Airport staff acknowledged to us they didn’t want to allow the opponents in the same room with their material. No one expected any sort of debate, but the “open house” was only open to those who wished to display favorable materials. For a well balanced set of “alternative facts,” check out the KTBV story. Well done.