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		By: jj		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/01/firemen-and-coppers-call-for-fireworks-banfinally/#comment-102435</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2017 00:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Gaurdian, speaking of Vietnam, have you read this book?  

https://www.amazon.com/Drafted-Vietnam-David-R-Frazier/dp/0945648227/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1486081077&#038;sr=8-2&#038;keywords=david+frazier

EDITOR NOTE--Anyone who makes a purchase can get me to sign it with just a note in the contact section.  Thanks for the plug JJ, hope you enjoy it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Gaurdian, speaking of Vietnam, have you read this book?  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Drafted-Vietnam-David-R-Frazier/dp/0945648227/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1486081077&#038;sr=8-2&#038;keywords=david+frazier" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.amazon.com/Drafted-Vietnam-David-R-Frazier/dp/0945648227/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1486081077&#038;sr=8-2&#038;keywords=david+frazier</a></p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Anyone who makes a purchase can get me to sign it with just a note in the contact section.  Thanks for the plug JJ, hope you enjoy it.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/01/firemen-and-coppers-call-for-fireworks-banfinally/#comment-102432</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 22:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Guardian - the proposed law is common-sense, that&#039;s for sure!  But... the miscreants are already law-breakers, so in reality there&#039;s no reason to expect that yet another law will change much.  (Except possibly make it a bit more difficult to get unsafe/insane fireworks.)  Every 4th of July and New Years, the acrid smoke hangs heavy in my neighborhood as a result of normally-law-abiding folk practicing a bit of civil disobedience.

Full disclosure... I grew up in one of the early foothills neighborhoods, surrounded by sagebrush and cheat grass.  I also had a bit of &quot;pyromaniac&quot; in me... as do lots of young adolescent boys, I&#039;ve observed.  And - the &quot;safe and sane&quot; stands came into existince during my adolescence.  (You could almost call it LITERALLY a &quot;powder keg.&quot;)  It is only by the grace of God that I didn&#039;t end up torching the foothills, and that I still have all ten fingers and both eyes!  (It&#039;s not because of common sense... that&#039;s for sure!)

If a new law will make everybody feel better, by all means pass it!  (Maybe put &quot;firing tracer bullets&quot; in there, too!)

&quot;They can have my M-80s when they pry them from my lacerated, smoking, dead fingers!&quot;   (-;

EDITOR NOTE--You actually make the point on my behalf.  It isn&#039;t the law that works, it&#039;s the denial of access to the fireworks.  In my opinion those ARSON KITS also include the S&amp;S stuff as well.  In Vietnam they (the communist gov&#039;t.) outlawed fireworks and now people play RECORDED versions of firecrackers for their Tet (lunar new year) celebrations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Guardian &#8211; the proposed law is common-sense, that&#8217;s for sure!  But&#8230; the miscreants are already law-breakers, so in reality there&#8217;s no reason to expect that yet another law will change much.  (Except possibly make it a bit more difficult to get unsafe/insane fireworks.)  Every 4th of July and New Years, the acrid smoke hangs heavy in my neighborhood as a result of normally-law-abiding folk practicing a bit of civil disobedience.</p>
<p>Full disclosure&#8230; I grew up in one of the early foothills neighborhoods, surrounded by sagebrush and cheat grass.  I also had a bit of &#8220;pyromaniac&#8221; in me&#8230; as do lots of young adolescent boys, I&#8217;ve observed.  And &#8211; the &#8220;safe and sane&#8221; stands came into existince during my adolescence.  (You could almost call it LITERALLY a &#8220;powder keg.&#8221;)  It is only by the grace of God that I didn&#8217;t end up torching the foothills, and that I still have all ten fingers and both eyes!  (It&#8217;s not because of common sense&#8230; that&#8217;s for sure!)</p>
<p>If a new law will make everybody feel better, by all means pass it!  (Maybe put &#8220;firing tracer bullets&#8221; in there, too!)</p>
<p>&#8220;They can have my M-80s when they pry them from my lacerated, smoking, dead fingers!&#8221;   (-;</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;You actually make the point on my behalf.  It isn&#8217;t the law that works, it&#8217;s the denial of access to the fireworks.  In my opinion those ARSON KITS also include the S&#038;S stuff as well.  In Vietnam they (the communist gov&#8217;t.) outlawed fireworks and now people play RECORDED versions of firecrackers for their Tet (lunar new year) celebrations.</p>
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		By: jj		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/01/firemen-and-coppers-call-for-fireworks-banfinally/#comment-102431</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a recall a ban on the possession of illegal fireworks is not an oxymoron but a loop hole in the law that allows someone to purchase in Idaho, fireworks that are illegal to use in Idaho, and at the time of purchase the buyer must sign a paper saying they intend to take the fireworks out of Idaho before using them.

Has been 10 years since I bought such fireworks but I remember signing the disclaimer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a recall a ban on the possession of illegal fireworks is not an oxymoron but a loop hole in the law that allows someone to purchase in Idaho, fireworks that are illegal to use in Idaho, and at the time of purchase the buyer must sign a paper saying they intend to take the fireworks out of Idaho before using them.</p>
<p>Has been 10 years since I bought such fireworks but I remember signing the disclaimer.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 18:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[kudos on jj&#039;s plus one, minus two, particularly those 2 suggestions to eliminate. 

Also, when pointing out &quot;those around us who do not have the common sense to provide for such personal freedom&quot; let&#039;s include the property owners lacking common sense to make their OWN defensible space.

If a home is in the urban interface, the property owner has to EXPECT a fire coming through their area.  It is THEIR responsibility and should be their cost to reduce or eliminate that risk- not mine, not the fire chiefs, not the Boise Council, not the state legislature.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kudos on jj&#8217;s plus one, minus two, particularly those 2 suggestions to eliminate. </p>
<p>Also, when pointing out &#8220;those around us who do not have the common sense to provide for such personal freedom&#8221; let&#8217;s include the property owners lacking common sense to make their OWN defensible space.</p>
<p>If a home is in the urban interface, the property owner has to EXPECT a fire coming through their area.  It is THEIR responsibility and should be their cost to reduce or eliminate that risk- not mine, not the fire chiefs, not the Boise Council, not the state legislature.</p>
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		By: No! No to Nanny State Liberalism		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No! No to Nanny State Liberalism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 17:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*I disagree with a fireworks ban.
*A ban smacks of police state liberalism.
*Banning guns accomplishes nothing except limiting the rights of the law abiding.  This topic is no different.
*Moreover, the most destructive fires we&#039;ve seen were no accident and not fireworks.
*I do support a ban on stupid people and criminality.  Let us limit the rights of the guilty before giving up our own.

**Our fire department is very top heavy and very overpaid.  Let us solve that problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*I disagree with a fireworks ban.<br />
*A ban smacks of police state liberalism.<br />
*Banning guns accomplishes nothing except limiting the rights of the law abiding.  This topic is no different.<br />
*Moreover, the most destructive fires we&#8217;ve seen were no accident and not fireworks.<br />
*I do support a ban on stupid people and criminality.  Let us limit the rights of the guilty before giving up our own.</p>
<p>**Our fire department is very top heavy and very overpaid.  Let us solve that problem.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/01/firemen-and-coppers-call-for-fireworks-banfinally/#comment-102425</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s BAN lighters, toilet paper in the foothills, and cigarettes too. 
While Trump is needlessly BANNING groups of people, we might as well just get on the BAN-wagon. :-) 


Can&#039;t legislate against stupidity. 
The North Idaho legislators always prove that point.  


huh? 
&quot;urge legislators to make it unlawful to purchase or possess illegal fireworks&quot; - they&#039;re not illegal, if one can currently purchase them. 

Should it be &quot;possess [aerial] fireworks&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s BAN lighters, toilet paper in the foothills, and cigarettes too.<br />
While Trump is needlessly BANNING groups of people, we might as well just get on the BAN-wagon. 🙂 </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t legislate against stupidity.<br />
The North Idaho legislators always prove that point.  </p>
<p>huh?<br />
&#8220;urge legislators to make it unlawful to purchase or possess illegal fireworks&#8221; &#8211; they&#8217;re not illegal, if one can currently purchase them. </p>
<p>Should it be &#8220;possess [aerial] fireworks&#8221;?</p>
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		By: jj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As much as I want to live in a society that maximizes freedom and minimizes laws, we are constantly reminded of those around us who do not have the common sense to provide for such personal freedom.  While an accident with fireworks can happen to anyone and living in a risk free society would be boring, shooting fireworks in the dry foothills during the hot summer lacks any common sense and is not an isolated incident.

In the spirit of one of Trump&#039;s good ideas, with each new regulation, two should be taken off the books, I would like to propose with the ban on certain fireworks the following two laws be repealed:

Open Container Laws:  As a society we do not/should not fear someone having a beer at the park, what we do not want is public intoxication, being drunk and disorderly, or being lewd in public, all for which there other laws for sufficient enforcement.  The hypocrisy that open containers are ok during a football game but not basketball, or if you have an event and buy a permit like Jaialdi. Funny how buying a permit from the government for a one-time exception happens to make something ok.

Nudity and Alcohol:  As we saw with the ridiculous ISP raid on the movie theater that sells beer while showing the movie 50 Shades, ISP seems to enjoy playing the moral police.  They are missing their calling and should join the Saudi Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice and walk around with canes and beat people not obeying their version of mortality.  While specifically this issue is not a high priority for me or most people, it is the concept of government imposed morality and behavior control of its citizens, even when such citizens are consenting adults on private property.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I want to live in a society that maximizes freedom and minimizes laws, we are constantly reminded of those around us who do not have the common sense to provide for such personal freedom.  While an accident with fireworks can happen to anyone and living in a risk free society would be boring, shooting fireworks in the dry foothills during the hot summer lacks any common sense and is not an isolated incident.</p>
<p>In the spirit of one of Trump&#8217;s good ideas, with each new regulation, two should be taken off the books, I would like to propose with the ban on certain fireworks the following two laws be repealed:</p>
<p>Open Container Laws:  As a society we do not/should not fear someone having a beer at the park, what we do not want is public intoxication, being drunk and disorderly, or being lewd in public, all for which there other laws for sufficient enforcement.  The hypocrisy that open containers are ok during a football game but not basketball, or if you have an event and buy a permit like Jaialdi. Funny how buying a permit from the government for a one-time exception happens to make something ok.</p>
<p>Nudity and Alcohol:  As we saw with the ridiculous ISP raid on the movie theater that sells beer while showing the movie 50 Shades, ISP seems to enjoy playing the moral police.  They are missing their calling and should join the Saudi Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice and walk around with canes and beat people not obeying their version of mortality.  While specifically this issue is not a high priority for me or most people, it is the concept of government imposed morality and behavior control of its citizens, even when such citizens are consenting adults on private property.</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Porcupine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2017 12:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why not outlaw all fireworks?  When you talk to the firemen that I know just as many fires are started by safe and sane as by the illegal ones?

Oh wait we can&#039;t do that the city of Boise makes money off safe and sane.....

Safe and Sane fireworks.... matches....Fires...  Am I missing something?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not outlaw all fireworks?  When you talk to the firemen that I know just as many fires are started by safe and sane as by the illegal ones?</p>
<p>Oh wait we can&#8217;t do that the city of Boise makes money off safe and sane&#8230;..</p>
<p>Safe and Sane fireworks&#8230;. matches&#8230;.Fires&#8230;  Am I missing something?</p>
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