Comments on: When the Insane Manage The Asylum… https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/ A different slant on the news. Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:26:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Inna https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/#comment-102525 Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:26:42 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=13482#comment-102525 It seems only the insane want to manage the asylium.

]]> By: Smeg https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/#comment-102524 Tue, 21 Feb 2017 17:19:57 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=13482#comment-102524 Was there a documented problem of SS recipients using guns in an unlawful manner? Obama never cited any data to support this premise. What Obama did was what he always did. Lump people into groups and treat them the same. Obama did this on his way out of office. If individual rights are going to be limited in some fashion, it should be individually and not because you are in a class determined by government bureaucrats. If you have to hire someone to do your income taxes because they are too complicated are YOU somehow mentally deficient? Some of you may laugh at this, but the premise is the same. You are in a group of people that cannot do your own taxes. Therefore, YOU may be a danger because you lack the capacity to manage your taxes. I personally help an elderly person deal with Social Security issues. It is no easy task to deal with the Federal Government.

]]> By: dave zarkin https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/#comment-102523 Tue, 21 Feb 2017 15:49:44 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=13482#comment-102523 Republicans in Minnesota also sponsoring air head gun legislation. Glad you posted this. This means with mentally disabled OK to get guns, Congress will also be able to lock and load, in the Capitol I assume.

]]> By: Creeping Fascism https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/#comment-102519 Sat, 18 Feb 2017 00:35:46 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=13482#comment-102519 Ever notice how the Federal Government only takes away rights, never gives them?
Fast forward a few years and only those with money or power will be deemed sufficiently trustworthy to own guns.
Long ago, the US Military and private citizens owned the same weapons.
Try and buy an M16 rifle today and big.gov puts you in a cage for years with 3 servings of slop a day.
There are simply too many laws, too much government power, too much abuse of power.

]]> By: Easterner https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/#comment-102517 Fri, 17 Feb 2017 00:13:36 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=13482#comment-102517 bikeboy,
you could refresh the Ruby Ridge story when it comes to lessons of “swooping in” to take guns somebody already owns.
That was ‘this person has a felony warrant, is armed, and the rest is history’.

“Justifying” something is not a requirement of BATF, FBI, DEA, DHS, or most local police.

Putting someone on the list is only one step. The next step is obviously, “do you currently own any firearms?”.

Unless of course everyone thinks it is okay to prevent someone from buying more guns while allowing them to keep any they already have…

]]> By: bikeboy https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/#comment-102515 Thu, 16 Feb 2017 19:48:22 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=13482#comment-102515 Hmmm… definitely two sides to this argument.

As pointed out by David, “adjudicated as mentally defective,” on the surface, suggests that the person might be untrustworthy to own and operate a potentially-deadly weapon.

But, as pointed out by Concerned Neighbor, the government has a reputation for using underhanded methods to accomplish its ends.

(If I’m not mistaken, the only time the NICS comes into play is when somebody wants to buy a gun from a licensed dealer. I’m not sure how the feds would justify “swooping in” and taking the guns somebody already owns, regardless of who conducts that person’s financial affairs.)

]]> By: Concerned Neighbor https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/#comment-102509 Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:05:25 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=13482#comment-102509 Asking someone to help manage your finances has nothing to do mental incompetency. The younger generation is much more familiar and skilled on average than their retired parents so often help out.

Outrage of this particular Obama gun grab stems from a retired vet in Sandpoint who granted power of attorney to one of his children. The federal government swooped in and stole all of his firearms. It had nothing to do with any kind of safety action, lack of competence, or mental deterioration.

There are some mental health issues that do raise safety questions. That’s not what is at issue. We do need to provide more support for those specific cases that have a very significant potential for harm. Unfortunately, this wasn’t it.

]]> By: Easterner https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/#comment-102503 Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:31:34 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=13482#comment-102503 “diminished mental capacity.”

Lots of possibilities there.

Should they all be treated the same?

Due process and equal treatment say not.

]]> By: going crazy https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/#comment-102502 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:31:39 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=13482#comment-102502 mentally defective is the point. I agree also that persons representative should not be able to buy for that person. Someone needs a Gibbs slap to the back of the head

]]> By: idaholc https://boiseguardian.com/2017/02/15/when-the-insane-manage-the-asylum/#comment-102501 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:10:51 +0000 https://boiseguardian.com/?p=13482#comment-102501 Has the SSA weighed in on Crapo? Sounds mentally defective to me!

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